From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: rameiko87@posteo.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.170187699626810 (code B ref -1); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:37:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 15:36:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40226 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtwx-0006yL-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:35 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:39160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtws-0006y3-Ab for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtwa-000631-JH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:12 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtwX-0000rU-UM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:12 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BB62240027 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:36:07 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1701876967; bh=CAq34xCICmQdTKuPq05kSFZotF0EG3UCRFOLmWczIkI=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Subject: Message-ID:From; b=d6L+aH2gFy/5FYpMvfK43VlsC9JEnXf14MC8qPbciAKzNPZMB4zeVoWxOfiNNHdwp 92nDNKfBx1vjpVDgW9z9GNUtsRGlKtr15FQp+8rrb6d9me6VrWUekNFUP9ABxoxzia 4Nwfcv2LUEOOhi5x+wtfePLHscry7OGA5m++GjpiHmK9OODcu3IE1vAUFgItVpFFVG vRiSrOxiE1JMdhjr1ZV99XusQPLViZOtntFk5AcqPf81vZSSWqBIbVzVI7ZVch2McY VZ4bwSLRGOjPaq4SUWUDC+wqW4BPVrG6OR3Dc0AaNpEQwEoz2IB8URs+TVcqLd8IIl j3sBEx4XZvgZQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4SlhMC106tz6tyg for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:36:07 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:36:07 +0000 From: rameiko87@posteo.net Message-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=rameiko87@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Newsticker plainview on Emacs 29.1. C-h m says that S-SPC should do the opposite of SPC, but they achieve the same command instead. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rameiko87@posteo.net Cc: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67662-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67662.17018823075342 (code B ref 67662); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 67662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 17:05:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvKd-0001O6-HD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:05:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvKY-0001NX-Kl for 67662@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:05:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvKF-0008Kn-V7; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:04:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=rzpc5hQlZMUcWQBwBdisB6ix4bfU9//H0Ae72YGIObs=; b=k09Y/JC6YKqu T/79JhupudxEuUsQf9Vg99lIoUiVlnx85t5nVysDJOuSbTIKpw6NufkrrC+4/mJoXFfLnGDABCBS1 yHcG2kBmzSHdE7OKhq6fAvxNzC8/qXZlj8uhCiAJyKYftVvQVeDn9xeTzNs75bzWXA+plz/y/oJpJ ds2tdMwMbWndPDlV7CgavE6mcpkNQ8q/EiPLVz+NWoKIilzV/1IsX+XvVL0YABeQoHC3CZ1RRPbDu pL7VfUWXmimyyh6Y+/kioKmCjYZJcfazQi/FoBU8uBFB9xXNpUvW50sgI/JYBApuxvzfkrcbA9ZQg +GIWTeiSWwTe/sAyLWx83A==; Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 19:04:54 +0200 Message-Id: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (rameiko87@posteo.net) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:36:07 +0000 > From: rameiko87@posteo.net > > Newsticker plainview on Emacs 29.1. C-h m says that S-SPC should do the > opposite of SPC, but they achieve the same command instead. Is this on a GUI frame or a TTY frame? From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: rameiko87@posteo.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67662-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67662.17018830466373 (code B ref 67662); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 67662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 17:17:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40325 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvWX-0001eh-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:17:25 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:45847) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvWT-0001eT-NR for 67662@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:17:24 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDDD0240103 for <67662@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:17:03 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1701883023; bh=BnzrA65m3s7y2qawDWshSB6a8MghtGixgL7+CE5cEVE=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: Message-ID:From; b=oceBpL5C/Zhmt9hAeiRmDIxCae0MJ7ZkAAjMkpeIM6q8ik3ZYfvxd7U3Zq0utXzpW GkWHPXJWc0M7sXXk5sYrxqjAdPJ4k+iJwJjFBlHKd8FouYQhY/dbdzLGCuVyINa4Jv BaH2hNN9Qx7QDXPUR54oW9o6vJP66gKNO6jAQy6rmsCAOEXiQqX0pCbiZE/KjPKSdR WydsXy240lhobfi3rAUz5LkJPY09FiSvwonzdEx51iQziRPAi1IqGX6wwp8bcuFpWu +yJ98LCcAlKYDHNj8zZKV5hPw1nsd6JNsXPY/kub3W47vK4Jr3Fktu2cEX55iIi4+6 bSUN3HMM0LURQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Slkbg33MWz6tmv; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:17:03 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:17:03 +0000 From: rameiko87@posteo.net In-Reply-To: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <07c62d6cc3e3399f2043a77406ea0adf@posteo.net> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> Newsticker plainview on Emacs 29.1. C-h m says that S-SPC should do >> the >> opposite of SPC, but they achieve the same command instead. > > Is this on a GUI frame or a TTY frame? terminal: emacs --no-x-resources From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rameiko87@posteo.net Cc: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67662-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67662.170188487519204 (code B ref 67662); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 67662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 17:47:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40369 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAw03-0004ze-DQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:47:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvzz-0004yn-7a for 67662@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:47:53 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAvzh-0000AJ-Lr; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 12:47:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=L2LFXJad4LegbZ56AJY8Cwl4ubrn4JOGtcgYH2UBl9k=; b=mo5/gsw8umqn jJki25P8v6WG82ecgZ0R8FGAajt/xeDLm/g27y5JX2h91dmUfDpTKFrzTxC+tbbhO0DkSyaI8XMpE N7xH6+4F2CjnD2hfv0GE3XM8brsTNNBInOlOfRZD4idtqZ2FuScaAfFVDNrtbTAy+ZoVp4anB985P SMXmjJZSz8pUc5AtFWtiRDmQUkctgmDae9kI0pt4jw72x1gMTWzspGeEFWeud9w65v1BEp+WfJgdh ho4T+peTBimBXBqBfrCUF0Hn+36R/0MD5IKLLDccDZ86HJW8i/0jP+NgQTm1DwBK9g0Ke0TchA+Mm XM2XRu6FoVkPvIRBaki0cQ==; Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 19:47:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83zfyn2pfj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <07c62d6cc3e3399f2043a77406ea0adf@posteo.net> (rameiko87@posteo.net) References: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> <07c62d6cc3e3399f2043a77406ea0adf@posteo.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 17:17:03 +0000 > From: rameiko87@posteo.net > Cc: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> Newsticker plainview on Emacs 29.1. C-h m says that S-SPC should do > >> the > >> opposite of SPC, but they achieve the same command instead. > > > > Is this on a GUI frame or a TTY frame? > > terminal: emacs --no-x-resources What does Emacs show when you type "C-h l" after pressing S-SPC? if it shows SPC and not S-SPC, it means your terminal emulator cannot distinguish between SPC and S-SPC (many terminal emulators don't), so Emacs cannot distinguish between them, either. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: rameiko87@posteo.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67662-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67662.17018941732444 (code B ref 67662); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 67662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 20:22:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAyQ0-0000dM-Pc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:22:53 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:41963) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAyPy-0000d6-9V for 67662@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:22:51 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9B6F240027 for <67662@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:22:31 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1701894151; bh=AYymKZUQ67ibV9avN1ZbXg1Svga3/+eMjRz8+O4hpRg=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: Message-ID:From; b=bTs9inm/aGD+ZCzC5h00+rQMcCI2koLAI+r6dk/PeZSGkUCwwBEPULGZxbVCigBDi Hs0vHfNAX+7mj5KTzm8Me6DleT+MuTeSKleNJQDjyOZA5kAK/ksUk8aJlLdU4vR16d WFkvKVLMQe5NEQUWIBxByDOymQEQHFJ4qpt+34jMhQOc8hWqhoFShXLF9XLfTUHbvS Ia2hCJ2/R3ewmnRnl+wg7Ga3lhvNm8uUYC1eVuhEOUBSddsVDgawXsAoEHnhh2ClKN +5nym3tSiF+VB2aD5aR/uKAlMwkhPfr+8PwmGW3CtDsbQI4tKMoBy7+iV4NN28cBxy yuPzSIqG55Tsg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Slpjf72bdz6tvk; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:22:30 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:22:30 +0000 From: rameiko87@posteo.net In-Reply-To: <83zfyn2pfj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> <07c62d6cc3e3399f2043a77406ea0adf@posteo.net> <83zfyn2pfj.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <8941354e59e0be4a81759b5e10c7acbc@posteo.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> >> Newsticker plainview on Emacs 29.1. C-h m says that S-SPC should do >> >> the >> >> opposite of SPC, but they achieve the same command instead. >> > >> > Is this on a GUI frame or a TTY frame? >> >> terminal: emacs --no-x-resources > > What does Emacs show when you type "C-h l" after pressing S-SPC? if it > shows SPC and not S-SPC, it means your terminal emulator cannot > distinguish between SPC and S-SPC (many terminal emulators don't), so > Emacs cannot distinguish between them, either. Smart. I was confused because in treeview I thought that S-SPC scrolls the other direction than SPC. In fact it doesn't, it's just than on my long articles (which occupy twice the length of a window) doing SPC (or S-SPC which is the same for me) at the end of the news, wraps back to the top. Instead, in plain view it doesn't wrap to the top but says end of buffer. Maybe we should make SPC behave the same in treeview and plainview? From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: rameiko87@posteo.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67662-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67662.17018943862806 (code B ref 67662); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 67662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 20:26:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40493 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAyTR-0000jA-QG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:26:26 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:43453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAyTP-0000ix-EG for 67662@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:26:24 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7B4D240029 for <67662@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:26:05 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1701894365; bh=mSPA7NxlS02gTz8vXOQbg5Yge02o92J6i/dZdFu/zio=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject: Message-ID:From; b=mkpOufiAov/rIplSIB3fvaroTbmAgdknc8GuPWK18LlhESiEVpW0DdzTvX3HzBt6b ivqP1GRgw7bdY2cEs/oV0B/UM8Pam20/CguQUj6ssr5siJUPjuEZxONIGNBdZpwUtp Yu0x2lppvjBIE0PPpxay3gJJ9OEgU9Jdp10K6kO8Awjhcw1A42EGk3bNubJCe4HvY8 ir3ZcMpWhYpjjk3RIg+lxwatbCpYzVM2KoOVWBEXBJOOXEqzkjlgfc/3cLKQb+pku9 HeXcbP5tAwfjunMs+wnlqASdc4fU0TdDPRDR/K/+T58acbQUF7KyvLtH15yTJl6J0Z K31+opXE8Cnvw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Slpnn4T76z6tyG; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 21:26:05 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:26:05 +0000 From: rameiko87@posteo.net In-Reply-To: <8941354e59e0be4a81759b5e10c7acbc@posteo.net> References: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> <07c62d6cc3e3399f2043a77406ea0adf@posteo.net> <83zfyn2pfj.fsf@gnu.org> <8941354e59e0be4a81759b5e10c7acbc@posteo.net> Message-ID: <129dcfcba35a934d6f83d321b449fde3@posteo.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Maybe we should make SPC behave the same in treeview and plainview? Forget about this: in fact in treeview the behaviour in the list of articles for a certain group when pressing SPC is also "end of buffer". It's only on the article window itself that it scrolls back up. So nothing to do, time to close this. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Resent-From: Jeremy Bryant Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67662 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: rameiko87@posteo.net Cc: 67662-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67662-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67662.17018948813685 (code B ref 67662); Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 67662) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 20:34:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40503 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAybN-0000xJ-RC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:34:41 -0500 Received: from out-182.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.182]:10605) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAybJ-0000x1-4S for 67662@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:34:37 -0500 References: <834jgv45zd.fsf@gnu.org> <07c62d6cc3e3399f2043a77406ea0adf@posteo.net> <83zfyn2pfj.fsf@gnu.org> <8941354e59e0be4a81759b5e10c7acbc@posteo.net> <129dcfcba35a934d6f83d321b449fde3@posteo.net> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeremybryant.net; s=key1; t=1701894859; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=iTuWAigIPz9ZQkUJ0+jLuoHl6EolTIy+3AyrsGBM9vU=; b=C3rUGmZC1ZGJgnMb4Cp9BJzisL1cqLm0HhRJSHMuRimFuj6DosCqC2uKxdmLt94s1F8Y7A kX5KubGMSzqPL4UL4BZU1O5e5Z2LgSO9dvU6tFhi3u8N8r2YlSyrELVPjecdBEKpHou1Y3 YJ49uTX4lbF9RTnOVo79nXsCkP3bmS4cqBbttHgAvXjgWB4rfYUKFc+E7I7L7pLpGzFV/h mwOFEU86R6erJrbXCYmPPoX+kqfEKK+XxUBgWNaewlleV9Upv3b9t253zgf8tMyhKSUmYZ VH/pAFUWwZ9ugIrP8NLHSU83sG69AebGk4RFDZ269rezEjZZrss3pueds1V5aQ== X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: Jeremy Bryant Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:33:02 +0000 In-reply-to: <129dcfcba35a934d6f83d321b449fde3@posteo.net> Message-ID: <87sf4f83zr.fsf@jeremybryant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Closing as per request below rameiko87@posteo.net writes: >> Maybe we should make SPC behave the same in treeview and plainview? > Forget about this: in fact in treeview the behaviour in the list of > articles for a certain group when pressing SPC is also "end of > buffer". It's only on the article window itself that it scrolls back > up. So nothing to do, time to close this. From unknown Mon Aug 18 17:55:24 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: rameiko87@posteo.net Subject: bug#67662: closed (Re: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down) Message-ID: References: <87sf4f83zr.fsf@jeremybryant.net> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 67662 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 67662@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:35:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1701894902-3733-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1701894902-3733-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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From: Jeremy Bryant To: rameiko87@posteo.net Subject: Re: bug#67662: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 20:33:02 +0000 In-reply-to: <129dcfcba35a934d6f83d321b449fde3@posteo.net> Message-ID: <87sf4f83zr.fsf@jeremybryant.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67662-done Cc: 67662-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , 67662@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Closing as per request below rameiko87@posteo.net writes: >> Maybe we should make SPC behave the same in treeview and plainview? > Forget about this: in fact in treeview the behaviour in the list of > articles for a certain group when pressing SPC is also "end of > buffer". It's only on the article window itself that it scrolls back > up. So nothing to do, time to close this. ------------=_1701894902-3733-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2023 15:36:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40226 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtwx-0006yL-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:35 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:39160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtws-0006y3-Ab for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtwa-000631-JH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:12 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAtwX-0000rU-UM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2023 10:36:12 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BB62240027 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:36:07 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1701876967; bh=CAq34xCICmQdTKuPq05kSFZotF0EG3UCRFOLmWczIkI=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To:Subject: Message-ID:From; b=d6L+aH2gFy/5FYpMvfK43VlsC9JEnXf14MC8qPbciAKzNPZMB4zeVoWxOfiNNHdwp 92nDNKfBx1vjpVDgW9z9GNUtsRGlKtr15FQp+8rrb6d9me6VrWUekNFUP9ABxoxzia 4Nwfcv2LUEOOhi5x+wtfePLHscry7OGA5m++GjpiHmK9OODcu3IE1vAUFgItVpFFVG vRiSrOxiE1JMdhjr1ZV99XusQPLViZOtntFk5AcqPf81vZSSWqBIbVzVI7ZVch2McY VZ4bwSLRGOjPaq4SUWUDC+wqW4BPVrG6OR3Dc0AaNpEQwEoz2IB8URs+TVcqLd8IIl j3sBEx4XZvgZQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4SlhMC106tz6tyg for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:36:07 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:36:07 +0000 From: rameiko87@posteo.net To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Emacs 29.1: Newsticker plainview S-SPC scrolls up instead of down Message-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=rameiko87@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Newsticker plainview on Emacs 29.1. C-h m says that S-SPC should do the opposite of SPC, but they achieve the same command instead. ------------=_1701894902-3733-1--