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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jidanni.org; s=dreamhost; t=1701678883; bh=wUfpEd/4LmkoAp6de4mBuHlxAc8vdY8x0RsvLKr57WY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Content-Type; b=Kj/nuIp63kh77JBKmQxep6KxRmbnM7CWQoCq47tmNvBT5db82ksvNctzb6RN90qyb sqpe1rNbStFkpx7iOK1C8LAEqcd340Q0b/AnA9MbyYfFMMwUORtyLxgaM2Uptfcxlg Ddo9o5tph4g02Gcc9iMiSuOyTRG+2ciL73rlOvPgXHy4t9eECTejYT2piTcwUa4/KH 8n8VbCACgxIQd3FxBnuwJhdytDsACps2phOA40/17nMb2+Pncmc+c/wkLBzVuu0vLd 9Ac/5gf22k+L6jBASqcjYpAeiFrhOv5aM6UfoEwAbXmJP1v3cVCb37Q5OJ+Yr80i9S lnn7O3wp1qZ3g== From: Dan Jacobson Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 16:34:40 +0800 Message-ID: <87v89ez7q7.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.209.25; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=bumble.birch.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) What does "Indent region with TAB" mean? To the layman it means put tabs at the beginning of each line. But here it means something different: Indent region with TAB, , , S-, S- So maybe indent-rigidly should prompt with Indent region with , , S-, S-, or TAB In fact that is their order in the docstring! Else one stares at the prompt for 30 seconds tying to figure out what it is trying to say. Or maybe say Type TAB, , , S-, S-, to indent region or Type , , S-, S-, or TAB to indent region Also it seems C-x C-i is easier to type than C-x TAB. So maybe mention that one can type either. (Yes, same bytes sent, at least on a VT100.) From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:36:32 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#67620: Better indent-rigidly prompt Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 12:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67620 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dan Jacobson Cc: 67620@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 67620-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67620.17016926166703 (code B ref 67620); Mon, 04 Dec 2023 12:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 67620) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2023 12:23:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33608 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rA7z6-0001k3-1g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2023 07:23:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56498) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rA7z4-0001jp-0v for 67620@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2023 07:23:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rA7yn-0006a4-W1; Mon, 04 Dec 2023 07:23:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9AUwGSiUxkAhgy6zn9tyNQbmonUDGk8qkd82ssVnw7k=; b=QkI1sx+49J4B qFB1fuIx/F0jcdMiuyw0sJp3Kuzqst7b33nx2mU2tq8orKdAsm3PQBS94m/nRAb2ZqySRDzFvXGz6 uZT97r+K4eAZWsLkNuRCIABGxE10Y5B0nIIhWLrupa1v6NoY+i0SHaPGy+LfSpP8fbNhkIBGxD8gY 58P3hnjBsmX2we/ln/vWPV9FDNlfneyx/KTK06d0VSj4qHKEp7yhb/EbTL+h2l6/3BD2iooWRtDZv dVxldYXdgwch5BkGipzcDkx4/WjEFCTUH/vdH4chBpSDCNaQ0hEZqUvmtW4B+RrcDxRzimXKwzrLj XOoTO9fJyDikBIaiQAI6tA==; Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 14:23:22 +0200 Message-Id: <83wmtu5f7p.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87v89ez7q7.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Mon, 04 Dec 2023 16:34:40 +0800) References: <87v89ez7q7.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dan Jacobson > Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2023 16:34:40 +0800 > > What does "Indent region with TAB" mean? > To the layman it means put tabs at the beginning of each line. Where did you see that text? In Emacs 29.1 the prompt says this instead: Indent region with TAB, , , S-, S- > Or maybe say > Type TAB, , , S-, S-, to indent region > or > Type , , S-, S-, or TAB to indent region This is indeed better; changed. > Also it seems C-x C-i is easier to type than C-x TAB. So maybe mention > that one can type either. Mention where? 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I was talking about when you're reading the sentence and you get halfway through and then you start to think. As far as documenting C-i,. Perhaps put in the docstring. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:36:32 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dan Jacobson Subject: bug#67620: closed (Re: bug#67620: Better indent-rigidly prompt) Message-ID: References: <831qc06bll.fsf@gnu.org> <87v89ez7q7.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 67620 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 67620@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 13:09:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1701781742-22101-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1701781742-22101-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #67620: Better indent-rigidly prompt which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 67620@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 67620: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D67620 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1701781742-22101-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 67620-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2023 13:08:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAVA8-0005jk-HN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 08:08:32 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44046) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rAVA6-0005jV-S9 for 67620-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 08:08:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rAV9q-0002sO-48; Tue, 05 Dec 2023 08:08:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BKKZ28payhVgrxUhAZRP0Ou0PIFdVw5phs5vwRApXBU=; b=o765FtUOtafP k+wWVYcpMYDKVHTmqdJsM/Jy9vkDfosTPWyLdoTHDgBVMjIYe84bAhW2ksATHECpRcR4psrp0pET8 8rGpQCqeADgKaDOS906ty1xxi55xEj9/m+6LP91mf11tCsjw7oE1xmY+BZj6TB4VAjwdqQk9vekMk SIGNcpRIWllWCeD9ekA02/n+N5ZxtwuW4PEE+3vTDF3d2LfFcJHrzJbkHCYB2ka0yhLYg3RnR6Y9K zJk3Hm5aS7rytnbbs0zyXoBBELMbXY2hGhG3njbLBOoKM+LFCsl/63LmhxqXifXgpNLj3dRnnfTgk NnrLT4dzIlJt2SDLk747Eg==; Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 15:08:22 +0200 Message-Id: <831qc06bll.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dan Jacobson In-Reply-To: <0ef01c4cc4bcaee6faa05d84cd23d099@jidanni.org> (message from Dan Jacobson on Tue, 05 Dec 2023 18:55:45 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#67620: Better indent-rigidly prompt References: <87v89ez7q7.5.fsf@jidanni.org> <83wmtu5f7p.fsf@gnu.org> <0ef01c4cc4bcaee6faa05d84cd23d099@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67620-done Cc: 67620-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 18:55:45 +0800 > From: Dan Jacobson > Cc: 67620@debbugs.gnu.org > > Thanks for fixing it. I was talking about when you're reading the > sentence and you get halfway through and then you start to think. > > As far as documenting C-i,. Perhaps put in the docstring. We don't document the bindings in doc strings, because users can rebind commands, and then the doc string will be incorrect. There are also technical problems with referring to a single binding when a command has several ones. So I think this aspect will remain the user's responsibility (the Emacs manual explains that TAB and C-i are the same). ------------=_1701781742-22101-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2023 08:35:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rA4Py-0003xA-Dg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2023 03:35:06 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:47528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rA4Pv-0003we-Uv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2023 03:35:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rA4Pg-0000o9-8C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2023 03:34:48 -0500 Received: from bumble.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rA4Pe-00081H-DV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; 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envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=bumble.birch.relay.mailchannels.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) What does "Indent region with TAB" mean? To the layman it means put tabs at the beginning of each line. But here it means something different: Indent region with TAB, , , S-, S- So maybe indent-rigidly should prompt with Indent region with , , S-, S-, or TAB In fact that is their order in the docstring! Else one stares at the prompt for 30 seconds tying to figure out what it is trying to say. Or maybe say Type TAB, , , S-, S-, to indent region or Type , , S-, S-, or TAB to indent region Also it seems C-x C-i is easier to type than C-x TAB. So maybe mention that one can type either. (Yes, same bytes sent, at least on a VT100.) ------------=_1701781742-22101-1--