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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:840b:1d34:253d:fa69]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i18-20020a170902c95200b001cfd2c5ae6fsm4754546pla.25.2023.11.28.23.01.59 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:01:59 -0800 (PST) From: Xiyue Deng To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.1; Describe with-current-buffer in more details Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:01:58 -0800 Message-ID: <87y1ehavq1.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::430; envelope-from=manphiz@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x430.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain In section 5.1, "The Definition of `copy-to-buffer'" of "Introduction to Emacs Lisp", when describing the implementation, the description of function `with-current-buffer' is a little too succinct with a sentence "Then, the `with-current-buffer 'function evaluates its body with that buffer temporarily current." and another one in the parentheses "`with-current-buffer' is a newer, and arguably easier, mechanism." AIUI the intro book is intended for people without programming experience. While arguably these two sentences do describe the `with-current-buffer' function, it would be better to expand a little more on what it does after "with that buffer temporarily current", such as it will switch back to the current buffer upon finishing the inner operations, etc. Below is a proposed patch to expand the description a little. Thanks in advance for considering! --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Add-more-text-to-clarify-the-behavior-of-with-curren.patch >From adf5973940e99e7ec676e2f5d43aae9026075f43 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 17:44:31 -0800 Subject: [PATCH] Add more text to clarify the behavior of with-current-buffer * doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi (copy-to-buffer): update text --- doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi | 6 +++++- 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi b/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi index e4a0f585f69..ba93dfd3b91 100644 --- a/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi +++ b/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi @@ -5445,7 +5445,11 @@ That expression starts with @code{get-buffer-create buffer}. The function tells the computer to use the buffer with the name specified as the one to which you are copying, or if such a buffer does not exist, to create it. Then, the @code{with-current-buffer} function -evaluates its body with that buffer temporarily current. +evaluates its body with that buffer temporarily current, after which +it will switch back to the buffer we are at now@footnote{It is like +calling @code{(save-excursion (set-buffer ...) ...)} in one go, though +it is defined slightly differently which interested reader can find +out using @code{describe-function}}. (This demonstrates another way to shift the computer's attention but not the user's. 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-0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ES8H2+6VglZnnKlNElPe9ACLh7FH1GEoFsu33gy1Thc=; b=BMPRo/MiktLG E9Fozoeg/erDgibNIc4+phxICPc92imktsOQfrQT8NiTmN0mNun2aioKaYaUJPe6G/8lzd7eTsEfR 8uMSuwIHr+UGziTu5BJZELAgRt0twXNeRX7tYzIiP/gkCC4fj1kmD9EuCWRIBQJ7tXwRTgOEOfzsL PtBqgPEmQKO7Et9qHEyyyEiNEMR3Tt/zBNdX9ljAEuAf/7M2KcosMNHXDsbYAxMoffnrPwdxrJ1zi VOGqaHW4yjqLcW8SgUZTvf8iAsNli+NUWRDBrJSL4btsKYpjvm+7wNkUO0bnFrz1ySyI9L77tZo/J CHzZ8nKEUvw+nokXJ2fcZQ==; Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 15:05:56 +0200 Message-Id: <83msuw7lqj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <87y1ehavq1.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:01:58 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#67521: 29.1; Describe with-current-buffer in more details References: <87y1ehavq1.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67521-done Cc: 67521-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:01:58 -0800 > > In section 5.1, "The Definition of `copy-to-buffer'" of "Introduction to > Emacs Lisp", when describing the implementation, the description of > function `with-current-buffer' is a little too succinct with a sentence > "Then, the `with-current-buffer 'function evaluates its body with that > buffer temporarily current." and another one in the parentheses > "`with-current-buffer' is a newer, and arguably easier, mechanism." > > AIUI the intro book is intended for people without programming > experience. While arguably these two sentences do describe the > `with-current-buffer' function, it would be better to expand a little > more on what it does after "with that buffer temporarily current", such > as it will switch back to the current buffer upon finishing the inner > operations, etc. > > Below is a proposed patch to expand the description a little. Thanks in > advance for considering! Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the issue. 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:840b:1d34:253d:fa69]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f35-20020a631023000000b005ac384b71cbsm11169912pgl.60.2023.11.29.08.45.35 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:45:35 -0800 (PST) From: Xiyue Deng To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#67521: 29.1; Describe with-current-buffer in more details In-Reply-To: <83msuw7lqj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 29 Nov 2023 15:05:56 +0200") References: <87y1ehavq1.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83msuw7lqj.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:45:34 -0800 Message-ID: <87ttp4bj9t.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67521-done Cc: 67521-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Xiyue Deng >> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:01:58 -0800 >> >> In section 5.1, "The Definition of `copy-to-buffer'" of "Introduction to >> Emacs Lisp", when describing the implementation, the description of >> function `with-current-buffer' is a little too succinct with a sentence >> "Then, the `with-current-buffer 'function evaluates its body with that >> buffer temporarily current." and another one in the parentheses >> "`with-current-buffer' is a newer, and arguably easier, mechanism." >> >> AIUI the intro book is intended for people without programming >> experience. While arguably these two sentences do describe the >> `with-current-buffer' function, it would be better to expand a little >> more on what it does after "with that buffer temporarily current", such >> as it will switch back to the current buffer upon finishing the inner >> operations, etc. >> >> Below is a proposed patch to expand the description a little. Thanks in >> advance for considering! > > Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the issue. Thanks Eli! Just wondering will this be installed on master also (with your fix of course)? -- Xiyue Deng From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 30 00:52:10 2023 Received: (at 67521-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Nov 2023 05:52:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51992 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r8Zy6-0003lx-1f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:52:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33450) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r8Zy3-0003lk-Sp for 67521-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:52:08 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8Zxq-0002jn-EW; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:51:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=HzUE8wegWJoAcAuq7YoAdsF3H0ZHwkfNcTa40zeYxqQ=; b=oa7DzxIrJgG1 QpxrBG34pIhSHcP3kv8/WUhw6LxisVbFySW76AYNIMiRrKMvq32nDn41VS/xjRBlgpI1Dn7KgFp7B Y+c5V86xiYcIhlgFy0w1/TI/VB5xaPpCjJXvNaQnTJ+R3p2mL261hN9C3wtkYmeOevzsnRjjBj+7d kTLWhDZS8BjGyEbe5wIjc4sc9KGmULrAG7E7+bHsJJhwMhgFVk+cbnhs84Ps7GCcnid1vblDcZ16G A6J7CXJaQbowZGgQoqhWMAri3f+Ek5DjEGmVJu0ohi4V48nG1Ausylui8zaqqhletRnqw8jVADa7n gHLbtEaHwN1XZyjJs2XWng==; Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 07:51:46 +0200 Message-Id: <83wmtz6b65.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <87ttp4bj9t.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:45:34 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#67521: 29.1; Describe with-current-buffer in more details References: <87y1ehavq1.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83msuw7lqj.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttp4bj9t.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67521-done Cc: 67521-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Cc: 67521-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:45:34 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Xiyue Deng > >> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:01:58 -0800 > >> > >> In section 5.1, "The Definition of `copy-to-buffer'" of "Introduction to > >> Emacs Lisp", when describing the implementation, the description of > >> function `with-current-buffer' is a little too succinct with a sentence > >> "Then, the `with-current-buffer 'function evaluates its body with that > >> buffer temporarily current." and another one in the parentheses > >> "`with-current-buffer' is a newer, and arguably easier, mechanism." > >> > >> AIUI the intro book is intended for people without programming > >> experience. While arguably these two sentences do describe the > >> `with-current-buffer' function, it would be better to expand a little > >> more on what it does after "with that buffer temporarily current", such > >> as it will switch back to the current buffer upon finishing the inner > >> operations, etc. > >> > >> Below is a proposed patch to expand the description a little. Thanks in > >> advance for considering! > > > > Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the issue. > > Thanks Eli! Just wondering will this be installed on master also (with > your fix of course)? The release branch is periodically merged onto master, so yes, it will, in a few days. 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While arguably these two sentences do describe the >> >> `with-current-buffer' function, it would be better to expand a little >> >> more on what it does after "with that buffer temporarily current", such >> >> as it will switch back to the current buffer upon finishing the inner >> >> operations, etc. >> >> >> >> Below is a proposed patch to expand the description a little. Thanks in >> >> advance for considering! >> > >> > Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the issue. >> >> Thanks Eli! Just wondering will this be installed on master also (with >> your fix of course)? > > The release branch is periodically merged onto master, so yes, it > will, in a few days. Ah didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying! -- Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:55:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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