From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:55 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#67516 <67516@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#67516 <67516@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines Reply-To: bug#67516 <67516@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 12:18:55 +0000 retitle 67516 [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines reassign 67516 automake-patches submitter 67516 Karl Berry severity 67516 normal tag 67516 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 28 16:07:16 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2023 21:07:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r85Ia-0004xc-LM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:07:16 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:51050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r85IW-0004xM-60 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:07:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r85II-0001FK-E1 for automake-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:06:58 -0500 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75] helo=freefriends.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r85I9-0002pn-E9 for automake-patches@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:06:58 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 3ASL6mdo010116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:06:48 -0700 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 3ASL6lht010115; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:06:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:06:47 -0700 Message-Id: <202311282106.3ASL6lht010115@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: ross.burton@intel.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines In-Reply-To: <1486570621-20006-1-git-send-email-ross.burton@intel.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.99.81.75; envelope-from=karl@freefriends.org; helo=freefriends.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: automake-patches@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ross - you sent a change to automake-patches back in February 2017. Sorry for the absurdly delayed reply. https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake-patches/2017-02/msg00001.html Instead of only accepting comment lines that start with # for serial lines, also accept dnl. ... -my $serial_line_rx = '^#\s*serial\s+(\S*)'; +my $serial_line_rx = '^(?:#|dnl)\s*serial\s+(\S*)'; While there's no technical problem with the patch, I'm not sure supporting dnl is desirable. It seems better for the serial line to always end up in whatever file is generated, for the sake of debugging and documentation, instead of being eliminated at m4-time. If there was a specific case where it was better to eliminate it, please describe ... Also, because it's been so many years and I don't think it's ever come up as a request, clearly things go on in any case :). (Thanks to Bogdan for unearthing this from the archives.) --best, karl. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 28 16:13:53 2023 Received: (at 67516-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2023 21:13:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r85Oy-00059K-QK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:13:52 -0500 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75]:53088 helo=freefriends.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r85Ow-000595-N4 for 67516-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:13:51 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: <67516-done@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 3ASLDe0G010999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <67516-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:13:40 -0700 Received: (from karl@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 3ASLDe8S010996; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:13:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 14:13:40 -0700 Message-Id: <202311282113.3ASLDe8S010996@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: 67516-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#67516: Acknowledgement ([PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines) In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67516-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 28 16:27:40 2023 Received: (at 67516) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2023 21:27:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48337 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r85cJ-00060a-Qi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:27:40 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-x834.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::834]:47482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r85cG-00060J-5Y for 67516@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:27:39 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-x834.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-423a7dd0803so19876281cf.3 for <67516@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:27:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=draconx-ca.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1701206843; x=1701811643; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aWAaF8rRZzkwM1RmBGRSpSB8IrAN0atExHHHjL/GPug=; b=VpMQYlf6vFEMhvTUHpcpdFazaZy150P8MhAwemGJobHEF0XLU7l21P8VNDSu+Jge7J GuDGZR0E/Up3CE01nFoA7mRKoLTnQrMb3LmxQDxhZZlVd5ep3GrKqApmy8gWyFbxTylj XEPF/GieR7beM8OgbH160blaXeyr1WsUozOnOo+X0y0FgPewk3oWLE9R+TzTjODsLMdH 0KUfxGEiNHPsZ4Lk93EvCEBwbaVmvqrYWmSxMxodVZuLZbgo6BxFb4lwcannSW0p9C8d wkw5gcRhHrI/WAKXvNbKDZqCPPcUDyPSACqf/FzK25S9IwNVo6BdmTxYriZvXodUafKV /YYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701206843; x=1701811643; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aWAaF8rRZzkwM1RmBGRSpSB8IrAN0atExHHHjL/GPug=; b=IsXjNg2IKQKvNC6x2mQ4QgG11ScNKb7/Z3KEwFZ1Hm5v/AanEFgJyf8RDI4/NQyygI 89HByEYVOnYA1CXDq4XV1nIRqMf6+Idp7KwlluAZLDyoRfrZ9TndHZyxhGvBfpxr36Dj 25iqau+ubUb4XjRtnL4VIJiEVAawBOmMlfdURKfECWo4FGIWL7KD7Qr7zrRnkVDpEf8m f6ZbrTxy6iSkxdHCd/NbgRX6pxMPb7z6T6Z4eQjJul2bmqAOGaMmUplGlXqbqdQsT+mq uaOUS7ZjNSzFDkFUy/hwfLOl4Pzr7NtjA/ei/fzfVXgrrDLfF6ebstmZsVOSesxDQRFn ZFZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyBLiGkKYVA8Me75iGj/oyDpVYfebmMD+fx/ReuayLlYr8mgJGC LfPlo1vRiEoWiUzVCVAUvlnUsA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGVQp67lh1aiN3CmuUCn0f0F0mI2ZrNh6F9WeXyb1Aw2KJJcAbCYGtRoNQ7cV0jVQaJ8Hsj+Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:408e:b0:423:a4bc:d26b with SMTP id cg14-20020a05622a408e00b00423a4bcd26bmr14480512qtb.37.1701206843376; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.50] (dhcp-24-53-241-2.cable.user.start.ca. [24.53.241.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q2-20020ac84502000000b00423829b6d91sm4878696qtn.8.2023.11.28.13.27.22 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:27:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4563ebc2-9499-4ccc-a45d-437d723085d6@draconx.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:27:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [bug#67516] [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines Content-Language: en-US To: Karl Berry References: <202311282106.3ASL6lht010115@freefriends.org> From: Nick Bowler In-Reply-To: <202311282106.3ASL6lht010115@freefriends.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67516 Cc: 67516@debbugs.gnu.org, ross.burton@intel.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2023-11-28 16:06, Karl Berry wrote: > Hi Ross - you sent a change to automake-patches back in February 2017. > Sorry for the absurdly delayed reply. > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake-patches/2017-02/msg00001.html > > Instead of only accepting comment lines that start with # for serial > lines, also accept dnl. > ... > -my $serial_line_rx = '^#\s*serial\s+(\S*)'; > +my $serial_line_rx = '^(?:#|dnl)\s*serial\s+(\S*)'; > > While there's no technical problem with the patch, I'm not sure > supporting dnl is desirable. It seems better for the serial line to > always end up in whatever file is generated, for the sake of debugging > and documentation, instead of being eliminated at m4-time. If there was > a specific case where it was better to eliminate it, please describe ... This shouldn't make any difference. In all "normal" uses of aclocal everything in these files is going to be diverted to KILL anyway so neither form should result in any output text going into configure. And with respect to how aclocal imports macro files into a project (either as separate files w/ --install, or directly into aclocal.m4), it just copies files verbatim so it doesn't matter what syntax is used. But by the same token there would seem to be no technical reason to prefer dnl over #... Cheers, Nick From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 01 15:10:26 2023 Received: (at 67516) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2023 20:10:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56126 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r99qD-0000G9-Pb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 15:10:26 -0500 Received: from mail.gentoo.org ([2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]:49323 helo=smtp.gentoo.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r99q9-0000Fl-8p for 67516@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 15:10:24 -0500 Received: by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix, from userid 559) id 2BAE8335D6D; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 20:10:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 15:10:02 -0500 From: Mike Frysinger To: Nick Bowler Subject: Re: [bug#67516] [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines Message-ID: References: <202311282106.3ASL6lht010115@freefriends.org> <4563ebc2-9499-4ccc-a45d-437d723085d6@draconx.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Rr91uelC9CjLeDZq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4563ebc2-9499-4ccc-a45d-437d723085d6@draconx.ca> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67516 Cc: 67516@debbugs.gnu.org, ross.burton@intel.com, Karl Berry X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --Rr91uelC9CjLeDZq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28 Nov 2023 16:27, Nick Bowler wrote: > On 2023-11-28 16:06, Karl Berry wrote: > > Hi Ross - you sent a change to automake-patches back in February 2017. > > Sorry for the absurdly delayed reply. > >=20 > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake-patches/2017-02/msg0000= 1.html > >=20 > > Instead of only accepting comment lines that start with # for serial > > lines, also accept dnl. > > ... > > -my $serial_line_rx =3D '^#\s*serial\s+(\S*)'; > > +my $serial_line_rx =3D '^(?:#|dnl)\s*serial\s+(\S*)'; > >=20 > > While there's no technical problem with the patch, I'm not sure > > supporting dnl is desirable. It seems better for the serial line to > > always end up in whatever file is generated, for the sake of debugging > > and documentation, instead of being eliminated at m4-time. If there was > > a specific case where it was better to eliminate it, please describe ... >=20 > This shouldn't make any difference. In all "normal" uses of aclocal > everything in these files is going to be diverted to KILL anyway so > neither form should result in any output text going into configure. >=20 > And with respect to how aclocal imports macro files into a project > (either as separate files w/ --install, or directly into aclocal.m4), > it just copies files verbatim so it doesn't matter what syntax is used. >=20 > But by the same token there would seem to be no technical reason to > prefer dnl over #... only angle of concern i can think of is that people are using dnl in their = code without realizing it's basically silently ignored. if we don't want to sup= port dnl, we should prob be chatty about it at some log level. -mike --Rr91uelC9CjLeDZq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEuQK1JxMl+JKsJRrUQWM7n+g39YEFAmVqPZoACgkQQWM7n+g3 9YG67xAAoBBbc2TzLjEaJ2ptf06JDAwnSgGuJjYcLzn1h8IbrlI5zqibhSj/Ornd FwICaNW8QLIsoJBBMvLRzgYEJf73/xVkpoj326XQHzbGpy6Y8t60wG9XE2NvY6QK X3YqkDY9gWYWm/Eio6rMcJKSc7PTYkNapIq3S+y/VW5jGTx3wp5xKfQ1B3bMr76o Etqilgb9v3WZS13EDV7VoU8T1xTNsn91TSo8/Uk2X5a/8G5DDS15Pi8eIKCYpEn8 UYTCE3XKHMUF90w5CTQd7sjKreOUqcoCesRTOfCIBGir4eys5wM//OdWVuijhDFA CMGGWJr6Hyv2FAOxLIEyKQweL9hp+oXAShXKtqliTBmm5iZ7JyA94iY/1mq/horV ws+o7kTtou54L1oFU9O12gXj5TOOyRq+hKEh97jDY9W/g6i/v+TB2i0luV8Y+me1 9tI/kVTJh0FfmppDvjNjqXN6nqLf6s9QZGROSYrBs+5tqTI+CGQBlNBcaLicFTuk l43vl2aIu4CnBeZ3wZzfr+ukWJrB/zPr58pXGp2Iot1vQGGFZt7P9um4hZs/hAJl CMRIIOY69JzRwZhLXvjI1I9EvRkzqsNY6C/wDb1jE3M4JrFf6aYqHJ/smInF4396 ckbiDIAwDXbT1drJBBrncZSCYxknlc5WnH6PbMPclafTvNa4QT8= =Vj/T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Rr91uelC9CjLeDZq-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 01 18:10:37 2023 Received: (at 67516) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2023 23:10:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r9Ceb-00057v-B8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 18:10:37 -0500 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75]:43660 helo=freefriends.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r9CeS-00057g-Qg for 67516@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 18:10:35 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 3B1NAIuW005801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Dec 2023 16:10:18 -0700 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 3B1NAHaK005800; Fri, 1 Dec 2023 16:10:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 16:10:17 -0700 Message-Id: <202312012310.3B1NAHaK005800@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: vapier@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [bug#67516] [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67516 Cc: nbowler@draconx.ca, 67516@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) without realizing it's basically silently ignored. if we don't want to support dnl, we should prob be chatty about it at some log level. The "Serials" node in the manual only mentions "#". I guess I don't see a need to go out of our way to do anything else, given that this was the only report about it (and the OP's email now bounces). --thanks, karl. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 01 20:00:24 2023 Received: (at 67516) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2023 01:00:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56413 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r9EMp-0008DT-QV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 20:00:24 -0500 Received: from dev.gentoo.org ([2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]:44677 helo=smtp.gentoo.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r9EMn-0008DA-2L for 67516@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Dec 2023 20:00:22 -0500 Received: by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix, from userid 559) id 719F9335DEB; Sat, 2 Dec 2023 01:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 20:00:06 -0500 From: Mike Frysinger To: Karl Berry Subject: Re: [bug#67516] [PATCH] aclocal: handle both # and dnl for serial number lines Message-ID: References: <202312012310.3B1NAHaK005800@freefriends.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aseTg75NX5R+WpDt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202312012310.3B1NAHaK005800@freefriends.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 67516 Cc: nbowler@draconx.ca, 67516@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --aseTg75NX5R+WpDt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01 Dec 2023 16:10, Karl Berry wrote: > without realizing it's basically silently ignored. if we don't want > to support dnl, we should prob be chatty about it at some log level. >=20 > The "Serials" node in the manual only mentions "#". I guess I don't see > a need to go out of our way to do anything else, given that this was the > only report about it (and the OP's email now bounces). --thanks, karl. i tend to see it as "if one person took the time to track us down and complain, then chances are there's more who didn't". which means some people tried dnl, noticed, fought the system, then figured it out. imo if the diagnostics are easy & cheap to add, then saving a few people a bit of pain is nice, especially when it's a common practice we adopt, and not just this one thing in isolation. all that said, i'm not interested in writing the patch for this particular issue, especially when manual serial management is uncommon, and i rarely do it myself. -mike --aseTg75NX5R+WpDt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEuQK1JxMl+JKsJRrUQWM7n+g39YEFAmVqgZYACgkQQWM7n+g3 9YHORA/9FFSlB1r/BfSVEA7zKfJu0+sD9I5A6C/LW11X9e8zwL7rhvUdTgPJ5H8A GMq/YCBGjVhIt5lWaNfSz9NjZu/frZItOBfUZDHaOnG5eqYHjEnnmfx/Bkk/IaC0 8fFEZ0/HlYwIDVO3Ypyxtui9dufVObDsLMerW76I0daQaYk/6++N+a+C6MMOTVuu jrSDqHaGxEX21jcIK+hFZe+m3ogFZhzR8Nv4b8OSvxEOUueMTc/UYhRmULnS/9Yz E1sX5hsDQ0KK0cUL8tGLDQ/SCCk6LmwiMOl/Gj+YeC0tQrQY3LmcvQkyYrLSweWT chJrgN6+IOatqsVj00mnoPeHhbsIaCMI+0Ah3EgTbS3AIImCpIAhzER1zo1EU/Zl FW4cK1ZnxBPUPGREPrbD7iN0UGTgQN/pAo/WxhZc4TQvAp6h6qjT10ySQvW8Ych0 K/L/eFaSU9CUNf/vugAaDIr6QOASX5/g+yT4oQdPvEy0vFFez3p6dJjAJ+f/pe1e uJuRfb18QbCncxjKu7oMy0zYvO4WSKl25uN3q6RPjCimOxGh8OH/2Jt5jos+g6jK TItLXU4r0T/ukF0JtGeziSPjJyXmeI1DB/k7EwP9FVJfQbiRpNF4TDGPstkPYUVw jmY5FBpBv6e9+l9ObqjrdjCizfeBVA9o1GBqddV0idLWs2EKSus= =s6W/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aseTg75NX5R+WpDt-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 05:18:55 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2023 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator