From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 24 15:51:13 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2010 19:51:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ockka-0000fd-Pm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:51:13 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OckkW-0000fH-Uo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:51:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:43685) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OckkP-0001GQ-Kl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:51:01 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56059 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OckkM-0001lD-G1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:51:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OckkJ-0005Md-Jx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:50:56 -0400 Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:47831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OckkJ-0005MO-H3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:50:55 -0400 Received: from [87.198.55.209] (87-198-55-209.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.55.209]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9DD2683FF; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:50:51 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <4C4B441C.30900@harpegolden.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:50:52 +0100 From: David De La Harpe Golden User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100620 Icedove/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: X11 Compound Text vs ISO 2022 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: James Cloos X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) Logging issue to tracker so it doesn't disappear behind certain recent mammoth junk threads: James Cloos raised on emacs-devel: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-07/msg00255.html The problem that emacs has been sending "compound-text" using charsets not generally supported by other X11 clients. The spec for compound text seems clear enough, emacs shouldn't do that (though maybe should remain permissive in what it accepts). Emacs has compound-text and compound-text-with-extensions, the latter having support for some widely used extensions to the original spec including embedded unicode. Compound-text-with-extensions (since it supports embedded unicode) and probably compound-text should be restricted to only encoding to the known shortlist of acceptable charsets for compound-text, including some but not all of the iso2022 charsets emacs presently supports. Given UTF8_STRING support in X11, I reckon it is fairly unlikely the set of acceptable compound text charsets will be expanding much in future. Emacs should also probably use compound-text-with-extensions in the places it is currently using compound-text (or just make the former its latter) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 08 12:36:06 2020 Received: (at 6721) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 17:36:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmguE-0003s3-4f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:36:06 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54096) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmguC-0003rR-H8 for 6721@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:36:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=61SvYL/IEnCULqYOkLHDPyF4KEo3T2G6hxQVuKu0Wak=; b=Csvts48rfU9o3Fuour2+Hycy9q fpBCypJ8SNlD7kjvok3XI38lbIP5jG0SPAajHyb8EQnBoys8LC1F6XEFffaKUruS8Ve6XOQQfbMDB eaNZtbebl0g3mmqD9CvIxLlokEjXZL1xXeKrQ2Doo0bUCpPcdrTAnGH7HeCnpiFDnaTw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmgtv-0005Wg-JT; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:35:56 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: David De La Harpe Golden Subject: Re: bug#6721: X11 Compound Text vs ISO 2022 References: <4C4B441C.30900@harpegolden.net> X-Now-Playing: Actress's _Karma & Desire_: "Public Life (Performed by Vanessa Benelli Mosell)" Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:35:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <4C4B441C.30900@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:50:52 +0100") Message-ID: <878sa8dwul.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: David De La Harpe Golden writes: > James Cloos raised on emacs-devel: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-07/msg00255.html > > The problem that emacs has been sending "compound-text" using charsets > not generally su [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6721 Cc: 6721@debbugs.gnu.org, James Cloos X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) David De La Harpe Golden writes: > James Cloos raised on emacs-devel: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-07/msg00255.html > > The problem that emacs has been sending "compound-text" using charsets > not generally supported by other X11 clients. The spec for compound > text seems clear enough, emacs shouldn't do that (though maybe should > remain permissive in what it accepts). (This bug report unfortunately got no response at the time.) I had a look at the emacs-devel URL, but I'm still not quite sure in what circumstances Emacs sends `compound-text' to other X clients. Is this something you still see in more recent Emacs versions, and if so -- do you have a recipe to reproduce this bug? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 08 12:36:09 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 17:36:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmguH-0003sL-CF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:36:09 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54110) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmguG-0003rr-8S for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:36:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=l4O8N0d0ZL5nMm+VaKWlgRyIntvQwqxOC/A+ad6pqq4=; b=tlmA5XXKIaIaTIf979Up2pmOxw 0xbcMfBNkU6TTfZaZzZyHGlzMtvGbjf4oSqELSURJeZDuXNXTC1MlyuPnHkpND1vWrSgG/Xm5Bvs1 hkW/So6mCbHRdEb2ivq3RBEdQStarnjbl+hfA+V94Zs7Tg5ZyQTbjVoKqXk5CHlp3t+o=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmgu8-0005Wv-GN for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:36:02 +0100 Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:35:59 +0100 Message-Id: <877dpsdwu8.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #6721 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I had a look at the emacs-devel URL, but I'm still not quite sure in > what circumstances Emacs sends `compound-text' to other X clients. Is > this something you still see in more recent Emacs versi [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6721 Cc: 6721@debbugs.gnu.org, James Cloos X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I had a look at the emacs-devel URL, but I'm still not quite sure in > what circumstances Emacs sends `compound-text' to other X clients. Is > this something you still see in more recent Emacs versions, and if so -- > do you have a recipe to reproduce this bug? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. 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