GNU bug report logs - #67185
Small bug in the Introduction to Elisp manual

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Reported by: Ryan Hodges <rphodges <at> gmail.com>

Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 01:58:03 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: Ryan Hodges <rphodges <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 67185-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, rms <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#67185: Small bug in the Introduction to Elisp manual
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:01:33 -0800
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Thank you both.  After I finish learning Elisp, I hope I can make some real
contributions.

Cheers,
Ryan Hodges

On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 2:16 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> > Cc: rphodges <at> gmail.com, 67185 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 22:40:43 -0500
> >
> >   > That manual uses "converse" and "conversely" about half a dozen
> times:
> >   > are all of them incorrect, and actually mean "opposite" or maybe "by
> >   > contrast"?
> >
> > I checked these, and I think they are correct.  Each one is about
> reversing
> > the direction of some relation, and "converse" means that/
> >
> >     > The @code{kill-region} function definition also has an
> @code{unless}
> >     > macro; it is the converse of @code{when}.
> >
> > That should say "opposite".  It's opposite because in the situation
> > where `when' runs its body, `unless' does not run its body.
> >
> >                                                  The @code{unless} macro
> is
> >     > an @code{if} without a then clause
> >
> > The point is valid if understood in a figurative sense -- so the
> > words need to indicate it is meant figuratively, not literally.  How
> > to do that?  Maybe this:
> >
> >                                                  The @code{unless} macro
> is
> >      like an @code{if} except that it has no then-clause, and it supplies
> >      an implicit @code{nil} for that.
>
> Thanks, I fixed these two places as you suggested, and I'm therefore
> closing this bug.
>
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