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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:8070:d95a:5e9e:2acd]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p6-20020a170902e74600b001bb0eebd90asm1970766plf.245.2023.10.27.13.59.09 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:59:07 -0700 Message-ID: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::629; envelope-from=manphiz@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x629.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) ERT may report error of `Test 'foo' redefined' when `foo' is not actually reused but due to loading sequence of the test source files, e.g. when some test A requires some other test B and A is loaded before B. A minimum test case with two ert test files: ,---- | $ cat ert-1-test.el=20 | (require 'ert) |=20 | (ert-deftest first-test () | (should (=3D (+ 1 2) 3))) |=20 | (provide 'ert-1-test) `---- ,---- | $ cat ert-2-test.el=20 | (require 'ert) | (require 'ert-1-test) |=20 | (ert-deftest second-test () | (should (=3D (+ 2 3) 5))) `---- If running ert by first loading ert-1-test and then ert-2-test then it goes fine: ,---- | $ emacs -batch -Q -L . -l ert -l ert-1-test.el -l ert-2-test.el -f ert-ru= n-tests-batch-and-exit | Running 2 tests (2023-10-27 03:42:24-0700, selector =E2=80=98t=E2=80=99) | passed 1/2 first-test (0.000054 sec) | passed 2/2 second-test (0.000025 sec) |=20 | Ran 2 tests, 2 results as expected, 0 unexpected (2023-10-27 03:42:24-070= 0, 0.000204 sec) `---- However, if the sequence is changed, ERT will report error: ,---- | $ emacs -batch -Q -L . -l ert -l ert-2-test.el -l ert-1-test.el -f ert-ru= n-tests-batch-and-exit |=20 | Error: error ("Test =E2=80=98first-test=E2=80=99 redefined") | mapbacktrace(#f(compiled-function (evald func args flags) #)) | debug-early-backtrace() | debug-early(error (error "Test =E2=80=98first-test=E2=80=99 redefined")) | error("Test `%s' redefined" first-test) | ert-set-test(first-test #s(ert-test :name first-test :documentation nil= :body (lambda nil (let* ((fn-10 #'=3D) (args-11 (condition-case err (let (= (signal-hook-function #'ert--should-signal-hook)) (list (+ 1 2) 3)) (error = (progn (setq fn-10 #'signal) (list (car err) (cdr err))))))) (let ((value-1= 2 'ert-form-evaluation-aborted-13)) (let (form-description-14) (if (unwind-= protect (setq value-12 (apply fn-10 args-11)) (setq form-description-14 (nc= onc (list '(should (=3D (+ 1 2) 3))) (list :form (cons fn-10 args-11)) (if = (eql value-12 'ert-form-evaluation-aborted-13) nil (list :value value-12)) = (if (eql value-12 'ert-form-evaluation-aborted-13) nil (let* ((-explainer- = (and t (ert--get-explainer '=3D)))) (if -explainer- (list :explanation (app= ly -explainer- args-11)) nil))))) (ert--signal-should-execution form-descri= ption-14)) nil (ert-fail form-description-14))) value-12))) :most-recent-re= sult nil :expected-result-type :passed :tags nil :file-name "/home/xiyueden= /Projects/test/ert-test/ert-1-test.el")) | load-with-code-conversion("/home/xiyueden/Projects/test/ert-test/ert-1-= test.el" "/home/xiyueden/Projects/test/ert-test/ert-1-test.el" nil t) | command-line-1(("-L" "." "-l" "ert" "-l" "ert-2-test.el" "-l" "ert-1-te= st.el" "-f" "ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit")) | command-line() | normal-top-level() | Test =E2=80=98first-test=E2=80=99 redefined `---- As you can see there's only one `first-test' defined. The error message is misleading. A real world example of this can be found in lsp-mode, where test/lsp-clangd-test.el[1] requires test/lsp-integration-test.el[2]. See also the discussion on an Debian bug[3]. This used to work fine but not after Emacs 29 started checking for used test names. A guess of the cause is that if the depending test is loaded first, the dependent test will first get processed through require and then processed again through `-l'. Fixing this may require a topological sorting of the libraries loaded through `-l' based on their dependency graph. However, I'd like to see whether upstream considers this type of usage well-formed and should be supported. If not, upstream should give a warning on such usage, such as printing a warning when requiring other modules that has `ert-deftest'. Meanwhile, an improved error message would also be great. [1] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-clangd-test.= el#L26 [2] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-integration-= test.el#L674 [3] https://bugs.debian.org/1054494 In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.37, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-09-19, modified by Debian built on debian-hx90 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/29.1/site-lisp:= /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/29.1/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec 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"Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:59:07 -0700 > > As you can see there's only one `first-test' defined. The error message > is misleading. > > A real world example of this can be found in lsp-mode, where > test/lsp-clangd-test.el[1] requires test/lsp-integration-test.el[2]. > See also the discussion on an Debian bug[3]. If test2 requires test1, why are both of them explicitly run from the command line? Isn't that redundant, since running test2 will also run the tests defined by test1? > However, I'd like to see whether upstream considers this type of usage > well-formed and should be supported. If not, upstream should give a > warning on such usage, such as printing a warning when requiring other > modules that has `ert-deftest'. Meanwhile, an improved error message > would also be great. I could agree to improving the error message, but I don't see why we should do anything beyond that, FWIW. Adding Mattias, who added this check 2 years ago. 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:2578:79b2:8435:c317]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 12-20020a170902ee4c00b001bc18e579aesm121135plo.101.2023.10.28.02.39.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 02:39:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Oct 2023 09:32:43 +0300") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 02:39:46 -0700 Message-ID: <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Xiyue Deng >> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:59:07 -0700 >> >> As you can see there's only one `first-test' defined. The error message >> is misleading. >> >> A real world example of this can be found in lsp-mode, where >> test/lsp-clangd-test.el[1] requires test/lsp-integration-test.el[2]. >> See also the discussion on an Debian bug[3]. > > If test2 requires test1, why are both of them explicitly run from the > command line? Isn't that redundant, since running test2 will also run > the tests defined by test1? > IIUC most projects just run all tests without explicit dependency detection. For example, in lsp-mode it uses eask ert-runner to run all tests[1]. In Debian it doesn't support cask or eask, so it also has a custom script that detects all test files and loads them all to run under ert[2]. In those cases the loading sequence of the test files is random. I think few projects actually check for such dependency, which is not worth the trouble when the test file count is large. On the other hand, such use is pretty rare if not wrong. As in the case of lsp-mode, lsp-clangd-test actually just requires lsp-integration-test just for a macro, which could have been defined elsewhere in a helper module and be required from both tests and the problem would be solved. As an alternative exists, I wonder whether upstream may consider requiring a file containing ert tests a misuse in ert tests and should be discouraged, as it may lead to unexpected side effects depending on loading sequence. >> However, I'd like to see whether upstream considers this type of usage >> well-formed and should be supported. If not, upstream should give a >> warning on such usage, such as printing a warning when requiring other >> modules that has `ert-deftest'. Meanwhile, an improved error message >> would also be great. > > I could agree to improving the error message, but I don't see why we > should do anything beyond that, FWIW. > This would also be better. > Adding Mattias, who added this check 2 years ago. [1] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/Makefile#L42 [2] https://salsa.debian.org/emacsen-team/dh-elpa/-/blob/master/dh_elpa_test#L386-396 -- Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 09:50:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169848654311402 (code B ref 66782); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 09:50:01 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2023 09:49:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37780 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwfwE-0002xo-VA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 05:49:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49278) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwfwC-0002wi-Mf for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 05:49:01 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwfva-0004Ab-SW; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 05:48:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=0tewVEozuV0+wSgzCgnSdKp0rE7sIPxE/X0KNsgdZHI=; b=HmAx5+LMC68n8qAQ9VTa HYmCK7CaGLIeDUu+Gz8RisLt8Kk+EKc9sVpJlyMyaZfrXstTg7Pezslpddjo18OQ8I9nOoZr5Z7r0 6SLLMEPGRA5719ocaqhXjxkoUphbuSj54da/ePsPnM9e6dY7to7tBrohnw0gyzmXY1CwnGZdhoUX+ HfiK/TkjjvmPMLA6s2PsNn/Z/xBqPn8vQF3E04fZ7ilKW3UpkVTNZsY8G0uN6XSGqkaR/SMz0AMhs 65iENjlF6PVm0tfa8VeMh+CTQLj/OUNcWCksYX90B/6anrw1tLccsB6DHkwNFyw+Owzi731ypzwu5 +fqb0Y5kUE3jaA==; Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:48:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Sat, 28 Oct 2023 02:39:46 -0700) References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Cc: Mattias Engdeg�rd , > 66782@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 02:39:46 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > If test2 requires test1, why are both of them explicitly run from the > > command line? Isn't that redundant, since running test2 will also run > > the tests defined by test1? > > IIUC most projects just run all tests without explicit dependency > detection. For example, in lsp-mode it uses eask ert-runner to run all > tests[1]. OK, but why do that in a single Emacs session? That is unclean for much more important reasons: some left-overs from previous tests could affect the following tests. IMO, each test should be run in a fresh Emacs session, i.e. no command line should ever load more than a single test file. 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:2578:79b2:8435:c317]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p15-20020a62ab0f000000b0068fe76cdc62sm2863341pff.93.2023.10.28.04.14.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:14:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:48:34 +0300") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:14:15 -0700 Message-ID: <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Xiyue Deng >> Cc: Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd , >> 66782@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 02:39:46 -0700 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > If test2 requires test1, why are both of them explicitly run from the >> > command line? Isn't that redundant, since running test2 will also run >> > the tests defined by test1? >>=20 >> IIUC most projects just run all tests without explicit dependency >> detection. For example, in lsp-mode it uses eask ert-runner to run all >> tests[1]. > > OK, but why do that in a single Emacs session? That is unclean for > much more important reasons: some left-overs from previous tests could > affect the following tests. IMO, each test should be run in a fresh > Emacs session, i.e. no command line should ever load more than a > single test file. I think one reason is that doing all test in one session gives you a nice summary of how many tests passed and which ones failed in the end. If you run just one test per session you'll have to inspect the results manually which could be much more time consuming for large test suites, and plus it may be slower. --=20 Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169849294321018 (code B ref 66782); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2023 11:35:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwhbS-0005Sv-NY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:35:43 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwhbN-0005SY-Lz for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:35:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwhal-00062s-Ll; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:34:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ByLZiCWTWG8I8KeQPW2tGdbWX/velZzKcyEPhgjMjZE=; b=IDZyfrE8qHhZ +jAKyiVd6exIIHQXNhRYVVMkAKtkCOoy3OV7wcw+KUsXOG/BtT0s8rcpkbND4q6YSyZdKsSp9LLYC 3Jh1+/j/0PyRhavF7mKf4VRmBLWmBz/2Bo9Jyw6w1LEuPVKBUrd8DhwDFxOJmYUHwp6PtHY2RunlF IOyj6rgWtbUdwGlQOg73oR14YPGkam4S+EPvj6RByKkL/iWav4WDCGIZjkPPOhpx4SRhONmQJsOAz f5tCGjfQQn8l6KrWUv4/UJQvzaQRUw5OptyRduMLdlawtcE2m8Wog31SXTvR+WZ0wI0ZlXTcfrc5f XYJQMMHrv/0nF1ln8MWnog==; Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:34:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:14:15 -0700) References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:14:15 -0700 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > OK, but why do that in a single Emacs session? That is unclean for > > much more important reasons: some left-overs from previous tests could > > affect the following tests. IMO, each test should be run in a fresh > > Emacs session, i.e. no command line should ever load more than a > > single test file. > > I think one reason is that doing all test in one session gives you a > nice summary of how many tests passed and which ones failed in the end. > If you run just one test per session you'll have to inspect the results > manually which could be much more time consuming for large test suites, > and plus it may be slower. The usual way of doing this is to generate summary by some shell script, which runs all the tests one by one. Emacs is not the only program that can count ;-) From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Xiyue Deng Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169849388023008 (code B ref 66782); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2023 11:51:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwhqa-0005z2-Cv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:51:20 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-x62e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62e]:58533) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwhqW-0005yj-C4 for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 07:51:18 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1c8a1541232so26404255ad.0 for <66782@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:50:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698493838; x=1699098638; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FtCNWrorbV0nlXRLFX2DOr3um9pjVvOqLM4rQXnhe+E=; b=aWAhysm8s/ccSPzkTOUW9tjGEMoQzHy1CDhcddfnypvhBqJsHhA61Tg1/txcfUmtiH Hlm2Ew+WmOasgOFUVIrghqqCyK7PiePfrum+VSBKWKi215hAbcwzGruV/6AD5WznD/CT Mo7pP46lxWuYvW0MqhH6iXqio+yEb//h3v0VPtiRC4QilrWgK3Y+E8TSZ3qUDFfpujr7 3ElKieUhbtXIxbRKTuvgznz3lkL6YpcEax4Dm0T5xBsBImHoTl6E9kimQ3x4fLfMr7bC q7Uq7uoLVSOBpo9thMwqgYcceq1ISl/vtwEKnDphsD0LopWYnw0hqaVvFUtkUL0yH8Fm H56w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698493838; x=1699098638; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=FtCNWrorbV0nlXRLFX2DOr3um9pjVvOqLM4rQXnhe+E=; b=POPyLW9owOE9TgvepvROAoq4pmmizjG4N3FxkG5A/l3wFJ+zHY4DF+EH6nnHXrXHje K2iL22pyaHPRxOpkLiA5nt+b3dDCrOdfDGahZ8Oam0A38FWlbtJgvUhE2lFSlYx7QJRb e3vRc7zqI5BpN6JtRhEWBkUB+xN8GncVpsuIF8ygc/nQobp/P0y+97MBwxMePjAgGtvL ZvtpjD3p00JuFdl8cOFKaB+fTszkJ8ZsUHPi2Vm4xCetIQz7nP77xOAPakpfMk89tFU0 ggc8HBbGJplnHIQfOX5StBotEJwhAxmrrYZFjhEL4VPZdl7ayx8rt4Pps1dRJczSe9m1 RB5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz7PVZYtmpmTU2wcTLtKufZ0woE7VRMbNVP7LGkozIHMkiYQRn+ 6TxojWbe/1agdyjfkP66r1odIbAZvdw0WA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG+O2YkOJ0+HNUv4mlRWcxugfkE/caoDztsVTD/nuPVf4z4iOgJh4DMCA7mxJm/Muxfutc99A== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e881:b0:1ca:e6c6:92f6 with SMTP id w1-20020a170902e88100b001cae6c692f6mr6794487plg.9.1698493838387; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian-hx90 (2603-8000-a400-0cdc-2578-79b2-8435-c317.res6.spectrum.com. [2603:8000:a400:cdc:2578:79b2:8435:c317]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v7-20020a1709029a0700b001b898595be7sm3088419plp.291.2023.10.28.04.50.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:34:53 +0300") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:50:37 -0700 Message-ID: <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Xiyue Deng >> Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:14:15 -0700 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > OK, but why do that in a single Emacs session? That is unclean for >> > much more important reasons: some left-overs from previous tests could >> > affect the following tests. IMO, each test should be run in a fresh >> > Emacs session, i.e. no command line should ever load more than a >> > single test file. >> >> I think one reason is that doing all test in one session gives you a >> nice summary of how many tests passed and which ones failed in the end. >> If you run just one test per session you'll have to inspect the results >> manually which could be much more time consuming for large test suites, >> and plus it may be slower. > > The usual way of doing this is to generate summary by some shell > script, which runs all the tests one by one. Emacs is not the only > program that can count ;-) > That also works of course, though personally I would prefer the good and reliable `ert-summarize-tests-batch-and-exit'[1] so that I don't have to reinvent the wheel ;-) [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/ert/Running-Tests-in-Batch-Mode.html P.S. I also thought of another potential counter-example of preferring running one test file over running many in one batch: the tests within the same test file may also leave garbage for the rest of the tests, so to avoid that we would have to prefer running one test per session (do we have such a filter?), which may become even slower. -- Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169849467224505 (code B ref 66782); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 12:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2023 12:04:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37896 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwi3M-0006NB-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 08:04:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwi3K-0006Mu-Bh for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 08:04:31 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qwi2i-0002sP-75; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 08:03:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=k1p8q81BfUlO3Uum1yWHiFP1gVA/NEpFc4AN3Vbl5DI=; b=K+pt38wRV/P7 VME7ZYXKYf9kdea7a6aY+5k6jPj1Ijsk9wrGFucAnnkF+66cMDzbl+Xz6Q3FzKlsnDni+RWxuZfCh 5dqiq2t8KA5W5nFBgi22+dnY7ZDf/kUmcR95wZ0dzc/21QAVc0KH+KHM5d7F43jAXHTz/0X1BvdOo qrpVcoAaR/k1tr1qc9U3QXE5VtzhZkzxGp8HLKY3wYxOxXILeHJjbNA0saQKFY9hpSzmyJaCNgCsU JsK68OtUSMr17fAXdH7HeJV2bm7/OdVpcY8+cPeolZ++44f9P/0g28phb6Z8Y6+/gbz+6l962CjE9 1WhiLOC8SglF059EqCXVSQ==; Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 15:03:47 +0300 Message-Id: <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:50:37 -0700) References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Cc: mattiase@acm.org, 66782@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 04:50:37 -0700 > > P.S. I also thought of another potential counter-example of preferring > running one test file over running many in one batch: the tests within > the same test file may also leave garbage for the rest of the tests We could reasonably expect from the author of a single .el test file to make sure the tests in that file don't interfere with one another and make the necessary cleanups for that purpose. But it is much harder to expect the same from several disparate test files, which can quite frequently be written and maintained by different people. 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But it is much > harder to expect the same from several disparate test files, which can > quite frequently be written and maintained by different people. I agree, and I have found this to be far from uncommon in practice. Treating redefined test cases as errors found and still finds serious = testing bugs, so we definitely want to keep the check as it is or in = some equivalent form (a warning wouldn't be nearly as good). And I also agree that the way this test runner explicitly loads .el = files without any concern for whether they logically represent a single = test collection or are just sub-modules for use in other tests, is quite = questionable.=20 I may be missing the point entirely, but what about using a file name = convention like Emacs, where only *-tests.el are considered to be actual = tests? 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I also thought of another potential counter-example of preferring >> running one test file over running many in one batch: the tests within >> the same test file may also leave garbage for the rest of the tests > > We could reasonably expect from the author of a single .el test file > to make sure the tests in that file don't interfere with one another > and make the necessary cleanups for that purpose. But it is much > harder to expect the same from several disparate test files, which can > quite frequently be written and maintained by different people. Fair enough. And of course ideally each test should be able to run either independently and batched together so that running everything in batch is possible with the nice summary :-) -- Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Xiyue Deng Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169852802315471 (code B ref 66782); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2023 21:20:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwqjH-00041S-GX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 17:20:23 -0400 Received: from mail-pf1-x42d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::42d]:47582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qwqjE-00041B-1P for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 17:20:22 -0400 Received: by mail-pf1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-692c02adeefso2837300b3a.3 for <66782@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:19:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698527982; x=1699132782; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=8fsWdTE4UCt9mK9tB4k9ljVw3Zt+9cs5ehjXewhbI+U=; b=MDRXuS1M72cQFtT6s4qPvxaCdAo8mD7XOK3yHNHcS9ASVUPJ9U5NW5GBrBjGFo67fa u58Y3bnjlxaQ1pWKJWX3VzT6mDNwUGTLiys7yb/26YudoQXbse2fym79rLBkQUyBQIfJ egMYCL6dLBf8aZKDBDWBlyBTV32E69Tb11COsMKqL9C9bvHSNpzeBZG8WqiR7vrHodX1 OMvqnNlOz3US7wh8ilnHPwU1OlFvDJc76GAIMZCXlyTJEVYjh4zxFhRk8CSuDlnkGooj hYBGqq/eYNJ6cqvS0ZkYM8edevJXO6yIvzHDhJxf+jiNNzayqwLKcVv7i65u8ffPzBbO 8i0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698527982; x=1699132782; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8fsWdTE4UCt9mK9tB4k9ljVw3Zt+9cs5ehjXewhbI+U=; b=MfPETQvyt7s3fbT1xCLb7z+MmEOLQwFtuuEMt1+jCEUJ02GN/y0Jn8slZuRE0PRc+Y EbpvFAfxCtoN5E+69Vzz3Mnj56XVHQ6R/uIGSFayZmPjJaAHJhy5JYspxXgmOHG9bTma AGTyP4kDCZNLkj8vpDGXWYcnzWZbbYqsuuzEZaJhw2PBMU234vUk4zapU6qsq/AKOcjn peS8ynml/Ilwh4pU5zdWbwB0WTspERBUfd+M+Dda2Jq9XdLbB6ggCFwR38LfUQJU/jpC YvdgA6HPC/Y+0jGohZ0KhKSbsyiVivM/18gWtsuryuIF1xz/U3XgRGkywPJPxbc/0YJu xazA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxwDQfgalhWgVe/+MXrrgpfc652DS3LbdJq7W9uk6kBOU84N+TF SnPfFVHWitb6/n5hyT8IvFnMKMezy7T2cw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFYc052pf8APNJZENX656pJDnFQhKF67X6pRTLCDAHLVuuMWnoKDrR9KlfHBdJ1SmsfyASt1Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1a93:b0:6b6:7a04:6f9 with SMTP id e19-20020a056a001a9300b006b67a0406f9mr5875453pfv.28.1698527981744; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian-hx90 (2603-8000-a400-0cdc-2578-79b2-8435-c317.res6.spectrum.com. [2603:8000:a400:cdc:2578:79b2:8435:c317]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i15-20020a056a00224f00b00690fe1c928csm3447081pfu.147.2023.10.28.14.19.41 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:19:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:46:23 +0200") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 14:19:40 -0700 Message-ID: <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > 28 okt. 2023 kl. 14.03 skrev Eli Zaretskii : > >> We could reasonably expect from the author of a single .el test file >> to make sure the tests in that file don't interfere with one another >> and make the necessary cleanups for that purpose. But it is much >> harder to expect the same from several disparate test files, which can >> quite frequently be written and maintained by different people. > > I agree, and I have found this to be far from uncommon in practice. > > Treating redefined test cases as errors found and still finds serious tes= ting > bugs, so we definitely want to keep the check as it is or in some equival= ent > form (a warning wouldn't be nearly as good). > I also agree, and I would definitely keep the current check. At the very least, duplicated test name makes identifying failed tests harder. > And I also agree that the way this test runner explicitly loads .el files > without any concern for whether they logically represent a single test > collection or are just sub-modules for use in other tests, is quite > questionable. > Exactly. > I may be missing the point entirely, but what about using a file name con= vention > like Emacs, where only *-tests.el are considered to be actual tests? > Which is why I'm asking for upstream stance on whether it will consider requiring other test modules as well-formed. To clarify one of my original proposals: if it makes no sense for a `ert-deftest' to depend on other `ert-deftest', I would say there is no reason for such a dependency, and people should move reusable components to a helper module instead. And of course a better error message such as forbidding such requires would be better. 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[188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q192-20020a2e5cc9000000b002c013211ec7sm907592ljb.100.2023.10.29.05.09.12 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Oct 2023 05:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= In-Reply-To: <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 13:09:11 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 28 okt. 2023 kl. 23.19 skrev Xiyue Deng : > To clarify one of my > original proposals: if it makes no sense for a `ert-deftest' to depend > on other `ert-deftest', I would say there is no reason for such a > dependency, and people should move reusable components to a helper > module instead. There is no reason for one `ert-deftest` to make use of another, but was = that the case here? I interpreted it as a test suite that spread its = `ert-deftest` definitions over multiple .el files which isn't = necessarily a bad way of organising them. As said before, there is little sense in including the same individual = tests from multiple 'root' .el files since that would run them more than = once. Perhaps that is what you meant? If so, please forgive me for the = pedantry. From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Xiyue Deng Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 21:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169861644618980 (code B ref 66782); Sun, 29 Oct 2023 21:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Oct 2023 21:54:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43643 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qxDjS-0004w3-6G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 17:54:06 -0400 Received: from mail-oo1-xc29.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::c29]:57546) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qxDjP-0004vZ-Rv for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 17:54:04 -0400 Received: by mail-oo1-xc29.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-581fb6f53fcso2467846eaf.2 for <66782@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:53:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698616405; x=1699221205; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=hha5T1sCNCcrAH07N8SgcDvfHby5h4G3dH4Uw8dVFZs=; b=gBPYejNwz+FaFy4oO6QBAwPxm2BrvgZ6Nuww5iKu1Azp+/U6xZ9oM/oBvd8AFeYmKc LSWl7/SQZ7E8dRa/4F/WiHSCHXIRdXhvV21w6ow2LHxILMtTNaNW31EZ+cKEak16Y4hG x+RLbaOCJEMH77obEOTt3MolCwFcSFVPB6B1SkN7/9l1mqXg16FJoNqEiSl/335lcfcK etvuoAJMILc7ElZps984RxdIle9LYZDk/sjDm5xKz+TmVh59jr3hXY/j7mAf5DaOptPH j94W4AbCVmoC+2z+qTfgXrw2cjCrZujTIW2McmTnMNRT3zQUkqziFVSzIXjk8zN6X1uW CvkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698616405; x=1699221205; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=hha5T1sCNCcrAH07N8SgcDvfHby5h4G3dH4Uw8dVFZs=; b=iDz9YN3HwIeojNj1vNuQZubI2qmcGdeZSieRBo9PkrBNtd3riB6wDJ42Y8+ybdKKpG AdPsV8zdKieSmVlk6vPBh4+41jYuG8P1sVwKHJrdBvGARk+anSNwk2rKzNBAsYwMkBR4 lC3Z1Yi6Afk6Bfd8SbwfF0JORUlFyQc5anzCS09NsXIqiKDHOaMTUi0G5Fh63Nles1lh Gx/j30U7n0Pjr3Q4Qc5f+XDp+OtITTpT9uC5pcfURO5Ej4vc2nth3FqKQ3P/V6kB+Ven eyZ5zoeU8Lijd/cKwAt5o3zYvDgALnIOcjRSBhBQ+ZyDs3VHTx6o6OiSbUe2I9dLASL0 +tpw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwT0panOsUq4PpB1kd42+5fvtP5laDPB+cnNEs6HQ1YcunRDkYx 0zRUGQ6/yxoqa41mvHeR/gi9/zkzGRc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFSXbzMKUwGRiPliuSHsOnlFxAvGPVzHNV5qeBPXksWkYlPhClVQnXmluR4BDp1iVTWP07PIQ== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6659:0:b0:6c4:c3ac:a9dc with SMTP id q25-20020a9d6659000000b006c4c3aca9dcmr9762944otm.21.1698616405023; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian-hx90 (2603-8000-a400-0cdc-6fc2-27a4-f474-9a99.res6.spectrum.com. [2603:8000:a400:cdc:6fc2:27a4:f474:9a99]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m12-20020a17090a858c00b0027360359b70sm6357316pjn.48.2023.10.29.14.53.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Sun, 29 Oct 2023 13:09:11 +0100") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:53:23 -0700 Message-ID: <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > 28 okt. 2023 kl. 23.19 skrev Xiyue Deng : > >> To clarify one of my >> original proposals: if it makes no sense for a `ert-deftest' to depend >> on other `ert-deftest', I would say there is no reason for such a >> dependency, and people should move reusable components to a helper >> module instead. > > There is no reason for one `ert-deftest` to make use of another, but was = that > the case here? I interpreted it as a test suite that spread its `ert-deft= est` > definitions over multiple .el files which isn't necessarily a bad way of > organising them. > As they just use eask to run all tests under folder test in their Makefile[1], I don't think spreading definitions is what they are doing. To clarify, I think instead they are requiring lsp-integration-test just because they want use the `lsp-test-wait' macro[2] in lsp-clangd-test[3][4][5], which could have been done by putting those macros in a separate file and requiring that from both tests. > As said before, there is little sense in including the same individual te= sts from multiple 'root' .el files since that would run them more than once. > > Perhaps that is what you meant? If so, please forgive me for the pedantry. > Exactly, and no worries. As far as I know, there is no practical use for a test case to depend on another test case in any language I worked with as a test case provides no reusable component. On the other hand, there are alternatives that makes more sense to do what they (e.g. lsp-mode) are doing. Again, IMHO I think it makes sense for ERT not to support it or to even forbid it. Doing this also avoids such misleading error message I was reporting, which got triggered depending on the loading sequence which may make test suites flaky (as the loading sequence is not deterministic). [1] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/Makefile#L42 [2] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-integration-= test.el#L51 [3] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-clangd-test.= el#L109 [4] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-clangd-test.= el#L118 [5] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-clangd-test.= el#L141 --=20 Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 12:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169866754331206 (code B ref 66782); Mon, 30 Oct 2023 12:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2023 12:05:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qxR1a-00087F-JT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:05:42 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x12e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12e]:57429) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qxR1Y-00086z-2J for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:05:41 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-5090cc340a3so2862046e87.2 for <66782@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 05:05:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698667500; x=1699272300; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:sender:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Q4cPF1/ObXQo0OLlz2linz6EbTtJRLWLoPk2v+kak+w=; b=bI3DcZVc5g7ZawWhGLdL8G2zCJIVUTjapUFmRqaSGC17iKExbkGCKKlj9HoDgoPTfV gpJTNHdse4Od/lt1capvXW11QDECyk9uEkEqvff/CJIHeJBj7MnSinPyH32EgCxNwD27 bT4j6ntP5JVyKSlyMFG1k1h7WhQwAznxAo1fNCxQ/yk3PSWsSoJFu486/23Y+e9DZQXv QFparXLuD4FJ9CraiBiL0o37nAu6639zTJogTFkPdXTA4QaPLcFSZe0ZY204eTPD+MCJ eES/pVLXUmsPiK2VVvcRPvY0IEnEAyt1/tuqCNMMMbbKdhbj1l7v0qvPOnsctHjx4unq j2ng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698667500; x=1699272300; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:sender:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Q4cPF1/ObXQo0OLlz2linz6EbTtJRLWLoPk2v+kak+w=; b=DshTGDER4W6328fZRXM0feFL1S37SLNrZVgRg/AIKHwzbN32I78FDeJiGEZ2oQUNyA shKHEtDfqWVLq2dmDhYXvHdJeLcVCLi7+n1qEWSdQRkWbeivExRl5EFp5jaiEjhrNORA 8Fmmow4YrN61qThx4jUxlpG46kao0Fxe3rEgve/rhfY3X4drRejj/Of66h9UST3dGmRU JR5N/ms3nIqOyM3e+xBY90PpoHhTvzSht0Etp1siZqRSZNcl6bi6Wqnu6F67h38MoT/N A3YgCkMNoouNmC0zHRPmnFjU711oR4BK61IZDdxvfypa5Ei2fXZbBgNFFWAknQp/eKfM X8Fg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxM/q/HFLMb75Cph67KhkiF+V5rEbrLlgZUhRVUNCQAAQYKyrFS J+laFuUg9Kyhnn8+82qncvc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHVVoKMh8NBNL0AqSBB8iValcaFTJbiCBgAQ4YEF3SPI5QInNOfXwmJyinzh3NlYRhENuB72Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:36cb:b0:508:1690:d825 with SMTP id e11-20020a05651236cb00b005081690d825mr6525848lfs.21.1698667500109; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 05:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (c188-150-165-235.bredband.tele2.se. [188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k12-20020ac24f0c000000b00507d5fdd4d8sm1431005lfr.245.2023.10.30.05.04.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Oct 2023 05:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= In-Reply-To: <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:04:58 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 29 okt. 2023 kl. 22.53 skrev Xiyue Deng : > As far as I know, there is no practical use for a test case to depend = on > another test case in any language I worked with as a test case = provides > no reusable component. On the other hand, there are alternatives that > makes more sense to do what they (e.g. lsp-mode) are doing. Again, = IMHO > I think it makes sense for ERT not to support it or to even forbid it. > Doing this also avoids such misleading error message I was reporting, > which got triggered depending on the loading sequence which may make > test suites flaky (as the loading sequence is not deterministic). I don't think ERT can forbid anyone from loading in the same .el file = multiple times because it's none of its business. Or did you have = something else in mind? All in all, I'm not sure there is anything that we can do in Emacs right = now that would help, but if you have any concrete suggestions, do tell. 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On the other hand, there are alternatives that >> makes more sense to do what they (e.g. lsp-mode) are doing. Again, IMHO >> I think it makes sense for ERT not to support it or to even forbid it. >> Doing this also avoids such misleading error message I was reporting, >> which got triggered depending on the loading sequence which may make >> test suites flaky (as the loading sequence is not deterministic). > > I don't think ERT can forbid anyone from loading in the same .el file mul= tiple times because it's none of its business. Or did you have something el= se in mind? > It's not that loading the same .el multiple times that caused this error, but loading a module with `ert-deftest' and both .el modules are passed to batch ert processing which is common practice. But see below. > All in all, I'm not sure there is anything that we can do in Emacs right = now that would help, but if you have any concrete suggestions, do tell. > I understand if upstream don't want to complicate `require' logic too much. However I wonder whether it's OK to add warning if a required module has `ert-deftest' in it, so that it can help people identify that a `Test "foo" redefined' error is due to requiring other module instead of an actual duplicated test name. 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:8cad:f8fa:2aab:68e6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u22-20020a1709026e1600b001cc4e477861sm129515plk.212.2023.11.02.10.17.02 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:17:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (Xiyue Deng's message of "Mon, 30 Oct 2023 13:47:53 -0700") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2023 10:17:01 -0700 Message-ID: <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xiyue Deng writes: > Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > >> 29 okt. 2023 kl. 22.53 skrev Xiyue Deng : >> >>> As far as I know, there is no practical use for a test case to depend on >>> another test case in any language I worked with as a test case provides >>> no reusable component. On the other hand, there are alternatives that >>> makes more sense to do what they (e.g. lsp-mode) are doing. Again, IMHO >>> I think it makes sense for ERT not to support it or to even forbid it. >>> Doing this also avoids such misleading error message I was reporting, >>> which got triggered depending on the loading sequence which may make >>> test suites flaky (as the loading sequence is not deterministic). >> >> I don't think ERT can forbid anyone from loading in the same .el file mu= ltiple times because it's none of its business. Or did you have something e= lse in mind? >> > > It's not that loading the same .el multiple times that caused this > error, but loading a module with `ert-deftest' and both .el modules are > passed to batch ert processing which is common practice. But see below. > >> All in all, I'm not sure there is anything that we can do in Emacs right= now that would help, but if you have any concrete suggestions, do tell. >> > > I understand if upstream don't want to complicate `require' logic too > much. However I wonder whether it's OK to add warning if a required > module has `ert-deftest' in it, so that it can help people identify that > a `Test "foo" redefined' error is due to requiring other module instead > of an actual duplicated test name. How does this sound? As I didn't get an answer I assume this was a no-go. So instead I'd like to propose a slight change to the error message to mention that it may also be caused by an ert test being loaded multiple times. Patch is attached, please let me know whether this works. --=20 Xiyue Deng --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Revise-test-redefined-error-message.patch >From 4efc6a84c4bb0758d67e2721fcb479494a312d69 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Xiyue Deng Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 10:08:48 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Revise test redefined error message Add the possibility that an ert test that is loaded multiple times may trigger the same error (Bug#66782). * lisp/emacs-lisp/ert.el (ert-set-test): Update error message. --- lisp/emacs-lisp/ert.el | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/lisp/emacs-lisp/ert.el b/lisp/emacs-lisp/ert.el index d727bc94ec5..4d189ed614e 100644 --- a/lisp/emacs-lisp/ert.el +++ b/lisp/emacs-lisp/ert.el @@ -152,7 +152,7 @@ mode.") (when (and noninteractive (get symbol 'ert--test)) ;; Make sure duplicated tests are discovered since the older test would ;; be ignored silently otherwise. - (error "Test `%s' redefined" symbol)) + (error "Test `%s' redefined or loaded multiple times" symbol)) (define-symbol-prop symbol 'ert--test definition) definition) -- 2.39.2 --=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2023 18:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B66782.169895144915919 (code B ref 66782); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 18:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 66782) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2023 18:57:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qycsj-00048g-Ei for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:57:29 -0400 Received: from mail-lj1-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::236]:61731) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qycse-00048Q-UE for 66782@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 14:57:28 -0400 Received: by mail-lj1-x236.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2c6ed1b9a1cso17104751fa.3 for <66782@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 11:56:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698951404; x=1699556204; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:sender:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LLKjJzbl3G9wgurUVFVboMdOb3uXI7Tm6CLZgcMMPPo=; b=FO7j15xvpqah8/oE9E2yK4NJE44oxMXbDlmBG9e5SQGZqzEbW+dotTT5OaH7IU6nDz do2DL6Unt3NAg6dN0ZLG5F1fyks0nAZDdniN3YG00x7OiQ17CDAc5t3WILF1A7kmhOAB PICciaOgyYULAKBk2acjpIeARieb5nGg/4vPp9g26D5SuOmlo3uRvJhlaS9e+P5nMfQx Mkg1aGcujVy3LTCc5tvXSmh1VudBbYP4JmLiD8rqUMe9oIjJvuXZqSW+mJbY2uw80pTM nRI4aV1fZRJWMq2EDITJXX/G3rgKWpBBltTXojgDTyKpnlGU4QmG/rd2qLSbUbPDSEab QmaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698951404; x=1699556204; h=to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:sender:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LLKjJzbl3G9wgurUVFVboMdOb3uXI7Tm6CLZgcMMPPo=; b=KJk6NP2QAGQE8MX+KaTxiqQrYq3Enmjj2Vd4qyxGnKi3OsjCRFJZYorMKIqEidIZVC 5Pv+FEvofxv+aiwL/i3ep1CDJcIEy8q//CSwgCSj8GsfMluwLoDHkvF/kCnX99dJGTd5 ETij/kS0277Og6zYW7EaL0rvBA/vnAMmz833R45++rJ9axqCHkDRTCR6UanYQV4YfQ0c LbFvLY920OH2jzuBERxVLFQNZFMfoyd1Z6rICXV1ZFtDXm0uIAkDYZuH3N/S4S62zih8 DOpxuowRRB73RHaU/ZKyEEHr2u/pevOqzs+Xhou2KTKdU11xOoxAk63jEffrxgdutAPf 3ebQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywccda8xQBblikx4x4tBpG9/JHXPBy2LS3CkQJqPa7k2to4q46z Qc1l4aFuvyTPMsOMkJ+rgcQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGUvK4hCKiZBfZ5ESJy89GlPRgRycLxpVaurXya+UY+LCsgWjwxYdY7yA/eZSxfPWyThqL0fA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:300a:0:b0:2c5:55a:b6ae with SMTP id w10-20020a2e300a000000b002c5055ab6aemr13681176ljw.16.1698951403459; Thu, 02 Nov 2023 11:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (c188-150-165-235.bredband.tele2.se. [188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l24-20020a2e9098000000b002bc3fbe9fd5sm12508ljg.55.2023.11.02.11.56.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 11:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) From: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= In-Reply-To: <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2023 19:56:41 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <143B680E-F34D-4E5E-9D11-2C50F7263920@gmail.com> References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 2 nov. 2023 kl. 18.17 skrev Xiyue Deng : >> I understand if upstream don't want to complicate `require' logic too >> much. However I wonder whether it's OK to add warning if a required >> module has `ert-deftest' in it, so that it can help people identify = that >> a `Test "foo" redefined' error is due to requiring other module = instead >> of an actual duplicated test name. How does this sound? >=20 > As I didn't get an answer I assume this was a no-go. No, please don't make such an assumption -- I was just busy elsewhere = and hadn't given your message the attention it deserved. Sorry about = that. That said, in this case I'm not sure how to implement your suggestion in = a clean way and if all that effort is really worth the trouble, so = perhaps the answer would be the same anyway. And we probably don't want = to prohibit `ert-deftest` in required modules in general for reasons = mentioned -- they could be used with perfectly fine discipline = elsewhere. > So instead I'd > like to propose a slight change to the error message to mention that = it > may also be caused by an ert test being loaded multiple times. Patch = is > attached, please let me know whether this works. I wouldn't mind such a change if it really would help. Would it? Isn't = it just restating the problem in other words? 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:c371:f95e:ac9f:a385]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 13-20020a17090a004d00b0027782f611d1sm339191pjb.36.2023.11.02.15.00.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 02 Nov 2023 15:00:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <143B680E-F34D-4E5E-9D11-2C50F7263920@gmail.com> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Thu, 2 Nov 2023 19:56:41 +0100") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <143B680E-F34D-4E5E-9D11-2C50F7263920@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2023 15:00:23 -0700 Message-ID: <87bkcbizns.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Mattias, Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > 2 nov. 2023 kl. 18.17 skrev Xiyue Deng : > >>> I understand if upstream don't want to complicate `require' logic too >>> much. However I wonder whether it's OK to add warning if a required >>> module has `ert-deftest' in it, so that it can help people identify that >>> a `Test "foo" redefined' error is due to requiring other module instead >>> of an actual duplicated test name. How does this sound? >>=20 >> As I didn't get an answer I assume this was a no-go. > > No, please don't make such an assumption -- I was just busy elsewhere and= hadn't given your message the attention it deserved. Sorry about that. > Sorry if I sounded pushy which I didn't intend to, ... > That said, in this case I'm not sure how to implement your suggestion in = a clean > way and if all that effort is really worth the trouble, so perhaps the an= swer > would be the same anyway. And we probably don't want to prohibit `ert-def= test` > in required modules in general for reasons mentioned -- they could be use= d with > perfectly fine discipline elsewhere. > And glad we are in agreement here, as I realizing adding this extra checking to require may add some unnecessary complexity. >> So instead I'd >> like to propose a slight change to the error message to mention that it >> may also be caused by an ert test being loaded multiple times. Patch is >> attached, please let me know whether this works. > > I wouldn't mind such a change if it really would help. Would it? Isn't it= just restating the problem in other words? > Let me clarify my intent, which is trying to do is to distinguish the two possible scenarios that cause this error: 1) Tests that are different but use the same test name. 2) There is no tests sharing the same name, but caused by double loading the same test unit through a dependency by require. Case 1 happens a lot in the wild and has caused many FTBFS bugs in Debian after upgrading Emacs to 29.1 (e.g. [1][2]), and the fix is simply to rename the tests. Case 2 is kinda tricky as there are no tests actually sharing a name here. See also in [3], which had many test with same name as in case 1 but for the specific error on `lsp-text-document-hover-request' it's actually case 2. As a matter of fact I've spent a non-trivial time trying to debug this one as it depends on the loading sequence which caused the failure to be flaky. So I hope my proposed change can help people on realizing that it's case 2 a bit faster. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/1052865 [2] https://bugs.debian.org/1052922 [3] https://bugs.debian.org/1052939 --=20 Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Xiyue Deng Subject: bug#66782: closed (Re: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence) Message-ID: References: <4E3AEBFB-5041-44D5-A14B-DC5E3B9E9AFA@gmail.com> <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 66782 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 66782@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 17:16:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1699031762-12244-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1699031762-12244-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #66782: 29.1; ERT tests reports test redefined depending on loading sequence which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. 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[188.150.165.235]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k8-20020ac257c8000000b005094486b705sm272968lfo.16.2023.11.03.10.14.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence From: =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= In-Reply-To: <87bkcbizns.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 18:14:24 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4E3AEBFB-5041-44D5-A14B-DC5E3B9E9AFA@gmail.com> References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <143B680E-F34D-4E5E-9D11-2C50F7263920@gmail.com> <87bkcbizns.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> To: Xiyue Deng X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.15) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66782-done Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 66782-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) 2 nov. 2023 kl. 23.00 skrev Xiyue Deng : > 1) Tests that are different but use the same test name. >=20 > 2) There is no tests sharing the same name, but caused by double = loading > the same test unit through a dependency by require. >=20 > Case 1 happens a lot in the wild and has caused many FTBFS bugs in > Debian after upgrading Emacs to 29.1 (e.g. [1][2]), and the fix is > simply to rename the tests. Thank you, I'm happy to hear that the check actually caught the kind of = errors it was supposed to find. > As a matter of fact I've spent a non-trivial time > trying to debug this one as it depends on the loading sequence which > caused the failure to be flaky. So I hope my proposed change can help > people on realizing that it's case 2 a bit faster. That's fine, adding something like what you suggested doesn't cost us = anything: now done on master (425d23fbea). 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:8070:d95a:5e9e:2acd]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p6-20020a170902e74600b001bb0eebd90asm1970766plf.245.2023.10.27.13.59.09 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:59:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.1; ERT tests reports test redefined depending on loading sequence Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 13:59:07 -0700 Message-ID: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::629; envelope-from=manphiz@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x629.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) ERT may report error of `Test 'foo' redefined' when `foo' is not actually reused but due to loading sequence of the test source files, e.g. when some test A requires some other test B and A is loaded before B. A minimum test case with two ert test files: ,---- | $ cat ert-1-test.el=20 | (require 'ert) |=20 | (ert-deftest first-test () | (should (=3D (+ 1 2) 3))) |=20 | (provide 'ert-1-test) `---- ,---- | $ cat ert-2-test.el=20 | (require 'ert) | (require 'ert-1-test) |=20 | (ert-deftest second-test () | (should (=3D (+ 2 3) 5))) `---- If running ert by first loading ert-1-test and then ert-2-test then it goes fine: ,---- | $ emacs -batch -Q -L . -l ert -l ert-1-test.el -l ert-2-test.el -f ert-ru= n-tests-batch-and-exit | Running 2 tests (2023-10-27 03:42:24-0700, selector =E2=80=98t=E2=80=99) | passed 1/2 first-test (0.000054 sec) | passed 2/2 second-test (0.000025 sec) |=20 | Ran 2 tests, 2 results as expected, 0 unexpected (2023-10-27 03:42:24-070= 0, 0.000204 sec) `---- However, if the sequence is changed, ERT will report error: ,---- | $ emacs -batch -Q -L . -l ert -l ert-2-test.el -l ert-1-test.el -f ert-ru= n-tests-batch-and-exit |=20 | Error: error ("Test =E2=80=98first-test=E2=80=99 redefined") | mapbacktrace(#f(compiled-function (evald func args flags) #)) | debug-early-backtrace() | debug-early(error (error "Test =E2=80=98first-test=E2=80=99 redefined")) | error("Test `%s' redefined" first-test) | ert-set-test(first-test #s(ert-test :name first-test :documentation nil= :body (lambda nil (let* ((fn-10 #'=3D) (args-11 (condition-case err (let (= (signal-hook-function #'ert--should-signal-hook)) (list (+ 1 2) 3)) (error = (progn (setq fn-10 #'signal) (list (car err) (cdr err))))))) (let ((value-1= 2 'ert-form-evaluation-aborted-13)) (let (form-description-14) (if (unwind-= protect (setq value-12 (apply fn-10 args-11)) (setq form-description-14 (nc= onc (list '(should (=3D (+ 1 2) 3))) (list :form (cons fn-10 args-11)) (if = (eql value-12 'ert-form-evaluation-aborted-13) nil (list :value value-12)) = (if (eql value-12 'ert-form-evaluation-aborted-13) nil (let* ((-explainer- = (and t (ert--get-explainer '=3D)))) (if -explainer- (list :explanation (app= ly -explainer- args-11)) nil))))) (ert--signal-should-execution form-descri= ption-14)) nil (ert-fail form-description-14))) value-12))) :most-recent-re= sult nil :expected-result-type :passed :tags nil :file-name "/home/xiyueden= /Projects/test/ert-test/ert-1-test.el")) | load-with-code-conversion("/home/xiyueden/Projects/test/ert-test/ert-1-= test.el" "/home/xiyueden/Projects/test/ert-test/ert-1-test.el" nil t) | command-line-1(("-L" "." "-l" "ert" "-l" "ert-2-test.el" "-l" "ert-1-te= st.el" "-f" "ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit")) | command-line() | normal-top-level() | Test =E2=80=98first-test=E2=80=99 redefined `---- As you can see there's only one `first-test' defined. The error message is misleading. A real world example of this can be found in lsp-mode, where test/lsp-clangd-test.el[1] requires test/lsp-integration-test.el[2]. See also the discussion on an Debian bug[3]. This used to work fine but not after Emacs 29 started checking for used test names. A guess of the cause is that if the depending test is loaded first, the dependent test will first get processed through require and then processed again through `-l'. Fixing this may require a topological sorting of the libraries loaded through `-l' based on their dependency graph. However, I'd like to see whether upstream considers this type of usage well-formed and should be supported. If not, upstream should give a warning on such usage, such as printing a warning when requiring other modules that has `ert-deftest'. Meanwhile, an improved error message would also be great. [1] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-clangd-test.= el#L26 [2] https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/test/lsp-integration-= test.el#L674 [3] https://bugs.debian.org/1054494 In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.37, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-09-19, modified by Debian built on debian-hx90 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec --localstatedir=3D/var/lib --infodir=3D/usr/share/info --mandir=3D/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=3Dyes --enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/29.1/site-lisp:= /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/29.1/site-lisp:/usr/share= /emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=3Dalsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=3D/usr --sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib --libexecdir=3D/usr/libexec 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[2603:8000:a400:cdc:c371:f95e:ac9f:a385]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t6-20020a17090ad50600b0027d219d3ac6sm1692409pju.47.2023.11.03.10.56.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Xiyue Deng In-Reply-To: <4E3AEBFB-5041-44D5-A14B-DC5E3B9E9AFA@gmail.com> ("Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?="'s message of "Fri, 3 Nov 2023 18:14:24 +0100") References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <143B680E-F34D-4E5E-9D11-2C50F7263920@gmail.com> <87bkcbizns.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <4E3AEBFB-5041-44D5-A14B-DC5E3B9E9AFA@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:56:00 -0700 Message-ID: <877cmyiuvj.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: > 2 nov. 2023 kl. 23.00 skrev Xiyue Deng : > >> 1) Tests that are different but use the same test name. >>=20 >> 2) There is no tests sharing the same name, but caused by double loading >> the same test unit through a dependency by require. >>=20 >> Case 1 happens a lot in the wild and has caused many FTBFS bugs in >> Debian after upgrading Emacs to 29.1 (e.g. [1][2]), and the fix is >> simply to rename the tests. > > Thank you, I'm happy to hear that the check actually caught the kind of e= rrors it was supposed to find. > >> As a matter of fact I've spent a non-trivial time >> trying to debug this one as it depends on the loading sequence which >> caused the failure to be flaky. So I hope my proposed change can help >> people on realizing that it's case 2 a bit faster. > > That's fine, adding something like what you suggested doesn't cost us any= thing: now done on master (425d23fbea). > > I'm closing the bug now, but do say if there is something I forgot. > Thanks Mattias! Would be better if this can be applied to 29 branch as well now that 29.2 is around the corner :-) --=20 Xiyue Deng From unknown Sun Jun 22 00:50:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#66782: 29.1; ERT tests report test redefined depending on loading sequence Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 08:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 66782 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Xiyue Deng Cc: mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, 66782-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 66782-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D66782.169908795132136 (code D ref 66782); Sat, 04 Nov 2023 08:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 66782-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2023 08:52:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCOM-0008MF-RZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 04:52:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCOL-0008M0-OM for 66782-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 04:52:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCNg-0001nH-DG; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 04:51:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=t5eOKPVYmYZFlBKze3v31w5b6M8aCdO5jUIf5oDYJY4=; b=LeaiaNLoX/P1RwiTXqh2 n/XHPpxLp0vca4x2S+6OwXSyO+7phK3LE8N9A76dCAwBPOdt4RqnQhG8qQMuvvjJ1vS+rCMtU455l r8iiVPCdjSI30GOvnGyMNmj2KBg3zU8VAI9bqYHQGKYz1d+/aa6ly9iao0aN7UCYEuOH481q4fEIe MirR5df2rrdcwmB0g61WW04GkPfB40+WhS7XWtp/KpM+xOe3tl777VNRghQ/aHafmJ/emK6OPaVOw TNWYLGJuo3NrvNm4c4uGnytjvAJUjzCnExw+SH9AXr02qHV0ncahyps1a11HucXznuJAKvIa0Abx1 FvtUjMXSG5p4uA==; Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:51:46 +0200 Message-Id: <835y2h6gv1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <877cmyiuvj.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (message from Xiyue Deng on Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:56:00 -0700) References: <87msw393z8.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83y1fncl4k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7gjgk65.fsf_-_@debian-hx90.lan> <83pm0zcc25.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzr7gfso.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83jzr7c74y.fsf@gnu.org> <87cywzge42.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <83h6mbc5ss.fsf@gnu.org> <962518D0-36A0-4626-9652-0A0A977DBB2C@gmail.com> <87wmv6fnrn.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <121E7FF6-4D07-40D5-A2D9-1B108605A117@gmail.com> <87pm0xf63w.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <877cn3kfba.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87fs1ohy7m.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <143B680E-F34D-4E5E-9D11-2C50F7263920@gmail.com> <87bkcbizns.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <4E3AEBFB-5041-44D5-A14B-DC5E3B9E9AFA@gmail.com> <877cmyiuvj.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Xiyue Deng > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 66782-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:56:00 -0700 > > Mattias Engdegård writes: > > > That's fine, adding something like what you suggested doesn't cost us anything: now done on master (425d23fbea). > > > > I'm closing the bug now, but do say if there is something I forgot. > > > > Thanks Mattias! Would be better if this can be applied to 29 branch as > well now that 29.2 is around the corner :-) I cherry-picked the change to the emacs-29 branch.