From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 24 18:13:01 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2023 22:13:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvPe0-0000iK-VI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:13:01 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:42398) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvPdy-0000i6-J9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:12:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvPdO-00047Z-6X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:12:22 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (helo=metalevel.at) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvPdL-0006Er-4l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 18:12:21 -0400 Received: from mts-Mac-mini.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by metalevel.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE399C75F for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:12:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mts-Mac-mini.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 501) id 9CF9D2A541FF; Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:22:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:22:38 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 78.47.144.35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=78.47.144.35; envelope-from=triska@metalevel.at; helo=metalevel.at X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: $ emacs -Q and then insert the following text in the *scratch* buffer: =CE=99=CC=88=CC=81" The expected appearance is: the letter =CE=99 combined with diaeresis and acute accent, followed by double quote. Instead, I see: the letter I combined with diaeresis, followed by double quote combined with acute accent. All the best, Markus In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.2.0, X toolkit, cairo version 1.17.6, Xaw scroll bars) of 2023-09-11 built on mac Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12011000 System Description: Mac OS X 10.14.2 Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/opt/local --disable-silent-rules --without-ns --without-dbus --without-gconf --without-libotf --without-m17n-flt --with-libgmp --with-gnutls --with-json --with-xml2 --with-modules --with-sqlite3 --with-webp --infodir /opt/local/share/info/emacs --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid --without-xaw3d --without-imagemagick --with-xpm --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png --with-lcms2 --without-rsvg --with-xft --with-native-compilation=3Daot --with-tree-sitter 'CFLAGS=3D-pipe -Os -Wno-attributes -isysroot/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk -arch x86_64' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-I/opt/local/include -isysroot/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk' 'LDFLAGS=3D-L/opt/local/lib -Wl,-headerpad_max_install_names -lfreetype -lfontconfig -Wl,-rpath /opt/local/lib/gcc12 -Wl,-no_pie -Wl,-syslibroot,/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX10.14.sdk -arch x86_64'' Configured features: ACL CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE PDUMPER PNG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINPUT2 XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 24 22:36:20 2023 Received: (at 66737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Oct 2023 02:36:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57003 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvTkq-0007rV-6Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:36:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvTkn-0007rF-C7 for 66737@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:36:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvTkD-0005rb-Gw; Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:35:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=p7tp9fEnavqaBlr+oY16pAOgSvsNEStSTsXei3+S4bU=; b=pDdKOx6qjXHV0g7P/9mY GPEf4my7jCljuERom6XfbRR1zFaiOCddbGswZu/OqOB+3L8POUD23bQQYvpFcztqv5I0f+hshRlPn M2jpUcWLhxkEv6DbZi2yno5dL2OMhK5ZhIa/wsydqKxYVgxVeoVPfumPmMe9KfIyqodODedTjKHYi uszerz3lY0ig9dDT9hXJ+bArVAT8LiW/QySebWlSKQXAQeu9O6ZIhRi7RT8RqYopVj6uydxFKPh1L Hk0ntU/+CFyXACQVlrL4Iy/bKxHZRhB596ViEuPYGhfW+TeJjNu9rcQK1XvOMR7fIdmfhNNKB/vUb aSiZEJ2QCOy/zA==; Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 05:35:48 +0300 Message-Id: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Markus Triska In-Reply-To: (message from Markus Triska on Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:22:38 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737 Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:22:38 +0200 > > To reproduce this issue, please start Emacs with: > > $ emacs -Q > > and then insert the following text in the *scratch* buffer: > > Ϊ́" > > The expected appearance is: the letter Ι combined with diaeresis and > acute accent, followed by double quote. > > Instead, I see: the letter I combined with diaeresis, followed by > double quote combined with acute accent. Try another font. On my system, the display is like you expect. If you go to the letter I and type "C-u C-x =", what does Emacs say in the *Help* buffer? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 26 04:28:13 2023 Received: (at 66737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2023 08:28:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60550 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvviv-0002v3-0s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 04:28:13 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (port=43616 helo=metalevel.at) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvvip-0002uq-Ii for 66737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 04:28:11 -0400 Received: by metalevel.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 645429C767; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 10:27:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 10:27:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 25 Oct 2023 05:35:48 +0300") Message-ID: <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Try another font. On my system, the display is like you expect. > > If you go to the letter I and type "C-u C-x =", what does Emacs say in > the *Help* buffer? Please find the buffer content below. Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737 Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Try another font. On my system, the display is like you expect. > > If you go to the letter I and type "C-u C-x =3D", what does Emacs say in > the *Help* buffer? Please find the buffer content below. Personally, I found that the DejaVu Sans Mono font works very well for many use cases, and I would like to keep using it. Is there any way to make it render this as intended? Thank you and all the best, Markus position: 295 of 324 (91%), column: 0 character: =CE=99 (displayed as =CE=99) (codepoint 921, #o1631,= #x399) charset: unicode-bmp (Unicode Basic Multilingual Plane (U+000= 0..U+FFFF)) code point in charset: 0x0399 script: greek syntax: w which means: word category: .:Base, G:2-byte Greek, L:Strong L2R, c:Chinese, g:G= reek, h:Korean, j:Japanese to input: type "C-x 8 RET 399" or "C-x 8 RET GREEK CAPITAL LET= TER IOTA" buffer code: #xCE #x99 file code: #xCE #x99 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix) display: composed to form "=CE=99=CC=88=CC=81" (see below) Composed with the following character(s) "=CC=88=CC=81" using this font: ftcrhb:-PfEd-DejaVu Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-m-0-iso106= 46-1 by these glyphs: [0 2 921 760 12 1 11 18 0 nil] [0 2 776 649 12 4 10 16 -12 [0 0 0]] with these character(s): =CC=88 (#x308) COMBINING DIAERESIS =CC=81 (#x301) COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT Character code properties: customize what to show name: GREEK CAPITAL LETTER IOTA general-category: Lu (Letter, Uppercase) decomposition: (921) ('=CE=99') There are text properties here: fontified t [back] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 26 04:44:04 2023 Received: (at 66737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2023 08:44:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60577 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvvyF-0003NY-Re for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 04:44:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39376) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvvyD-0003Mp-MC for 66737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 04:44:02 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvvxc-0000YE-OC; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 04:43:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=iZSiTGBoeqs/hAbT59b3xO4RlnxgtLWbDYUVA+ICMC4=; b=FerA0l50jfGH9CjSriOS tx5xFP9DAJhjUWyEJg1g+eoxFW1MgiVcvGlqUgO4+TEzkWt3ZmuzxAKdr7V9dnfA3sDI/ta1dMJi3 4luAxAujj4MGwAJYO8bUHdGeqg/+885UQcJ9dN/w7gPdFtXzV/QgxTg9RBcqmKQvJl0oDIPnVLsD/ b9xfElrsfMxm/v1VITWmauE5t0eX00jeMK9+6jDVtiAcDtpe0xkaMA/3VuoxjLX5od0havuBbFfJr 0j0EdkWgoWUgZev60mwA0cDPXklKHjWEB3PzmhR9N7UtuiqiQrD6XL4ITm0C1UzTmik4b5ugl7qwo GDkxj4AbxFp6UA==; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:43:26 +0300 Message-Id: <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Markus Triska In-Reply-To: <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> (message from Markus Triska on Thu, 26 Oct 2023 10:27:35 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737 Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska > Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 10:27:35 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Try another font. On my system, the display is like you expect. > > > > If you go to the letter I and type "C-u C-x =", what does Emacs say in > > the *Help* buffer? > > Please find the buffer content below. This says that Emacs did display the diaeresis, the acute accent, and Ι as a single grapheme: > display: composed to form "Ϊ́" (see below) > > Composed with the following character(s) "̈́" using this font: > ftcrhb:-PfEd-DejaVu Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-20-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1 > by these glyphs: > [0 2 921 760 12 1 11 18 0 nil] > [0 2 776 649 12 4 10 16 -12 [0 0 0]] > with these character(s): > ̈ (#x308) COMBINING DIAERESIS > ́ (#x301) COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT So now I don't understand your original report, viz.: > The expected appearance is: the letter Ι combined with diaeresis and > acute accent, followed by double quote. > > Instead, I see: the letter I combined with diaeresis, followed by > double quote combined with acute accent. How do you see that the acute accent is combined with the double quote? Emacs, above, says it's combined with Ι and the diaeresis, not with the double quote. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 26 05:07:30 2023 Received: (at 66737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2023 09:07:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60593 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvwKv-00042g-Ii for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:07:29 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (port=43996 helo=metalevel.at) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvwKo-00042S-Cd for 66737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:07:27 -0400 Received: by metalevel.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C5489C768; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:06:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Markus Triska To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:06:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:43:26 +0300") Message-ID: <87il6t21n9.fsf@metalevel.at> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > How do you see that the acute accent is combined with the double > quote? Emacs, above, says it's combined with Ι and the diaeresis, not > with the double quote. Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 T_SPF_TEMPERROR SPF: test of record failed (temperror) 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737 Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > How do you see that the acute accent is combined with the double > quote? Emacs, above, says it's combined with =CE=99 and the diaeresis, n= ot > with the double quote. Yes, that's correct: What Emacs says is not what I see, I see the acute accent combined with the double quote, here is a screenshot: https://www.metalevel.at/ei/issue66737.png All the best, Markus From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 26 05:40:40 2023 Received: (at 66737) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Oct 2023 09:40:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60619 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvwr2-0004qs-Br for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:40:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57066) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qvwqz-0004qW-4X for 66737@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:40:39 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qvwqO-0005uW-Bt; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 05:40:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=2j6x4WYPi+zJulpr1WSG46X2hCNz3b51/SwOchnHth8=; b=Ln9Lge8R5FoyhOSgd04H FmvZRegn7l7dQVovnZBu8TrH3PcIteiB3snQrQt4tJhNso2dUO30ax0XNlvR2i8WOy6/6r+PXuyIO qMFA79JlT4PFM2W0YSfwXwOWZKY4lartW0fseoqhLEscTTKq9uKywETlsN+b0s5jXtgkXvpRnzBHt Z7aYqPbtHTR1zr+litC3lWClHiVM3uXB0O6zPH7rSC/YpVbkWflxkqYbXCpwUs711cKju1jMuHN3F VBm6Vds4dziHnfQsm89ACF/FqddXScpCmzVPirxAI3CNFn609P+KvznAk7Rq6g6qPUZmiM8BJIuFF Y+RxVuVrXlrQKQ==; Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 12:40:09 +0300 Message-Id: <83h6mdhgcm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Markus Triska In-Reply-To: <87il6t21n9.fsf@metalevel.at> (message from Markus Triska on Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:06:50 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87il6t21n9.fsf@metalevel.at> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737 Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska > Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:06:50 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > How do you see that the acute accent is combined with the double > > quote? Emacs, above, says it's combined with Ι and the diaeresis, not > > with the double quote. > > Yes, that's correct: What Emacs says is not what I see, I see the acute > accent combined with the double quote, here is a screenshot: > > https://www.metalevel.at/ei/issue66737.png Then that's a problem with this font. I see the same here when I use DejaVu Sans Mono as the default font. I think HarfBuzz developers said several times that DejaVu Sans Mono is a problematic font. I don't think this is an Emacs problem. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 04 04:23:29 2023 Received: (at 66737-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2023 08:23:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzBwH-0007Tf-Ji for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 04:23:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzBwF-0007TQ-OM for 66737-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 04:23:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qzBvZ-0003bO-OB; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 04:22:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=1fVhZb/cd0a9vDxgf6Y9RrGma7bdMK1pPxjBH60/3ec=; b=R4StSoJsCBEvDyVTIepw hU5QXagF7SZohm9KuFIsY7IOg71AoSqaH9AtrGymKZLbI6jDaQFpNlGRV0nxbtmQzh9XiZtpRzH+b XpyYsrHqas83j1ulHDvZl/Neb5Mjbs87v5BliQ5ILPd21dqZzbGeZzb9PIyw/niDYGp0kcYoR6KHq 0+CpPsQ1rFZUd4Ncihj6ddktEghH4Onux0rnCVhu6YSz2V7shaR+li1cCEjHpsGD4VsNFUxMFstlD PEQTTCjZYJd4SndCQ+AIjguaUeGilpX3n+YK7f1TikefA9Ys2IpOSQ29h92vXlFUKnmN2WTx4AR4l YpPrwiAfvUHxBg==; Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:22:42 +0200 Message-Id: <83il6i53n1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: triska@metalevel.at In-Reply-To: <83h6mdhgcm.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 26 Oct 2023 12:40:09 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87il6t21n9.fsf@metalevel.at> <83h6mdhgcm.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737-done Cc: 66737-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 12:40:09 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: Markus Triska > > Cc: 66737@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 11:06:50 +0200 > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > > How do you see that the acute accent is combined with the double > > > quote? Emacs, above, says it's combined with Ι and the diaeresis, not > > > with the double quote. > > > > Yes, that's correct: What Emacs says is not what I see, I see the acute > > accent combined with the double quote, here is a screenshot: > > > > https://www.metalevel.at/ei/issue66737.png > > Then that's a problem with this font. I see the same here when I use > DejaVu Sans Mono as the default font. I think HarfBuzz developers > said several times that DejaVu Sans Mono is a problematic font. > > I don't think this is an Emacs problem. No further comments, so I'm now closing this bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 04 05:18:23 2023 Received: (at 66737-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2023 09:18:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60924 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCnO-0000e3-KQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 05:18:22 -0400 Received: from [78.47.144.35] (port=50230 helo=metalevel.at) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCnL-0000dr-Mp for 66737-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 05:18:21 -0400 Received: by metalevel.at (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D400A9C766; Sat, 4 Nov 2023 10:17:41 +0100 (CET) From: Markus Triska To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87il6t21n9.fsf@metalevel.at> <83h6mdhgcm.fsf@gnu.org> <83il6i53n1.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:17:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83il6i53n1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:22:42 +0200") Message-ID: <871qd5ho7e.fsf@metalevel.at> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > No further comments, so I'm now closing this bug. For me, the issue persists. Is there nothing that Emacs can or should do about this? If so, then please ignore this issue. 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Thank you and all the best, Markus From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 04 05:28:50 2023 Received: (at 66737-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2023 09:28:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCxW-0000uD-Ea for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 05:28:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49474) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCxU-0000tw-4B for 66737-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 05:28:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qzCwo-0000Ib-C5; Sat, 04 Nov 2023 05:28:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Kaibfl7PxLCSmJvRWn+PNdyUM4Dsl23cHjcFmHCIESM=; b=aqvCA31eBAuq 1EltSinKDDmkyzThXWAJnGd8rbsbKfHWKcyuUHLZ2cZza4PIonMfuCnQEy4BDLb9LSlzIJzWA2YIc 3TCGrzTdeDXQO6EEoD+5gsncolo2cqEjld2N2dRBmXLCCe9Cw/uKk0pZBresyhYU3DCJOs/k++RkI 5pRnZAMX441GtjdaLGmGrhDIbwkqXIozBUjgyrjiMKHpQhDLicbB0BHO2fVs0YDdfifdJ9RneuJ+W o50wAU+xQcKPWTiZJQtA7qHJMR43sXbfPw117L3r6knMIRL30rHGPJMsksX4SY6nLpbmInM2adwvq T4WEeYw81rtjzSzVv45suQ==; Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 11:28:04 +0200 Message-Id: <83y1fd50m3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Markus Triska In-Reply-To: <871qd5ho7e.fsf@metalevel.at> (message from Markus Triska on Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:17:41 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#66737: 30.0.50; Unexpected combination of double quote and acute accent References: <83sf5zjunv.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5x23go.fsf@metalevel.at> <83jzr9hiz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87il6t21n9.fsf@metalevel.at> <83h6mdhgcm.fsf@gnu.org> <83il6i53n1.fsf@gnu.org> <871qd5ho7e.fsf@metalevel.at> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66737-done Cc: 66737-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Markus Triska > Cc: 66737-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:17:41 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > No further comments, so I'm now closing this bug. > > For me, the issue persists. Is there nothing that Emacs can or should do > about this? If so, then please ignore this issue. It seems to be a problem with the font, so Emacs cannot do anything about it, AFAIU. From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:09:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2023 12:24:08 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator