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Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:30:12 +0000 From: Efraim Flashner To: 66553-done@debbugs.gnu.org, guix-patches@gnu.org Subject: Request for merging "rust-team" branch User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Message-ID: <4D6214A4-E59F-4166-B4D0-2CCCE42F5DB4@flashner.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.62.234.194; envelope-from=efraim@flashner.co.il; helo=flashner.co.il X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) IMO rust-team branch is ready to merge=2E We've updated rust to 1=2E70, librsvg to 2=2E56=2E4 and many new and updated packages=2E We've added a p= hase to the cargo-build-system to fail if it detects pre-built files and we've set the cargo-build-system to skip the test phase by default, allowing us to make sure that the packages have the correct inputs=2E With these changes I've gotten 100% of the packages built using the cargo-build-system to build successfully=2E We're looking forward to this merge so we can continue bumping the rust version, work on cross-compilation and try to reduce the number of packages which skip the build phase entirely=2E --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 17 11:41:46 2023 Received: (at 66576) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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[66.158.155.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n11-20020a0ce94b000000b00647386a3234sm645634qvo.85.2023.10.17.08.41.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:41:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: bug#66576: Request for merging "rust-team" branch In-Reply-To: <4D6214A4-E59F-4166-B4D0-2CCCE42F5DB4@flashner.co.il> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:30:12 +0000") References: <4D6214A4-E59F-4166-B4D0-2CCCE42F5DB4@flashner.co.il> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:41:11 -0400 Message-ID: <87y1g1tfxk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66576 Cc: 66576@debbugs.gnu.org, 66553-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Efraim, Efraim Flashner writes: > IMO rust-team branch is ready to merge. We've updated rust to 1.70, > librsvg to 2.56.4 and many new and updated packages. We've added a phase > to the cargo-build-system to fail if it detects pre-built files and > we've set the cargo-build-system to skip the test phase by default, > allowing us to make sure that the packages have the correct inputs. With > these changes I've gotten 100% of the packages built using the > cargo-build-system to build successfully. This sounds good except I don't understand how disabling the tests by default help to "make sure that the packages have the correct inputs" ? You've explained the rationale here: , saying we sometimes use a newer Rust than the package tests are expecting; how does it work in the Rust world? Don't they always build even older versions against the most recent compiler? What about the test suites then? Are these not typically run by users/distributions? For one thing the 'guix lint' command would need to be told that cargo-build-system has #:tests? set to #f by default to not warn without reasons that '#:tests? #t' is unnecessary. -- Thanks, Maxim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 17 18:57:37 2023 Received: (at 66576) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2023 22:57:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32937 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qst0K-0007pP-LF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:57:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qst0G-0007p4-KA; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:57:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qsszl-0000xt-1q; Tue, 17 Oct 2023 18:57:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=D+w9DVVDULP5y896sQp7HR6LMUnKkb0Qa4Idg4BGrTI=; b=jxJ7QEe9+NgKK5vVlNPZ vebMbFRvm7kEBptf3MiH1tkFmvAtJto4ev1gTPbRjT8dnEeKM3FRQmvlZR2nT7jiLKjd5ecPkLGsT 89x5zHOMBBok3u9iASi1Mdv26pZsGcrSW4V4yIzfUxGZe3ZvSJhDYA7DZ+mV3aYn1VGBUlwQ4e5Qg 6HzXJlTDC/YHwvbGGjIlF9mw2Nbc+fXsihpgtlmEqhxhgS9qgPmMFlKGa5FyYW2JBZ4R7W7af3fnf n7fyihEI1JgRgkCeylaqTSOu7VX3lMqJZ8vBnRG45u97rV13r5iu3mKTODuXBN8vNNtNsgq1CDYjd 6l9Pe4H19vb+eA==; From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: bug#66576: Request for merging "rust-team" branch In-Reply-To: <4D6214A4-E59F-4166-B4D0-2CCCE42F5DB4@flashner.co.il> (Efraim Flashner's message of "Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:30:12 +0000") References: <4D6214A4-E59F-4166-B4D0-2CCCE42F5DB4@flashner.co.il> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 00:56:57 +0200 Message-ID: <871qds7t8m.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 66576 Cc: 66576@debbugs.gnu.org, 66553-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hello! Efraim Flashner skribis: > IMO rust-team branch is ready to merge. We've updated rust to 1.70, > librsvg to 2.56.4 and many new and updated packages. We've added a phase > to the cargo-build-system to fail if it detects pre-built files and > we've set the cargo-build-system to skip the test phase by default, > allowing us to make sure that the packages have the correct inputs. With > these changes I've gotten 100% of the packages built using the > cargo-build-system to build successfully. The =E2=80=98rust-team=E2=80=99 jobset at https://ci.guix.gnu.org is now at= 78%, which is actually better than =E2=80=98master=E2=80=99 (74%). There are still ~6K aarch64-linux builds queued but from the numbers it seems ready to be merged. (Besides, I=E2=80=99m curious about the answers to the questions Maxim asked earlier in this thread regarding skipping tests.) Ludo=E2=80=99. 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We've updated rust to 1.70, > > librsvg to 2.56.4 and many new and updated packages. We've added a phase > > to the cargo-build-system to fail if it detects pre-built files and > > we've set the cargo-build-system to skip the test phase by default, > > allowing us to make sure that the packages have the correct inputs. With > > these changes I've gotten 100% of the packages built using the > > cargo-build-system to build successfully. >=20 > The =E2=80=98rust-team=E2=80=99 jobset at https://ci.guix.gnu.org is now = at 78%, which > is actually better than =E2=80=98master=E2=80=99 (74%). There are still = ~6K > aarch64-linux builds queued but from the numbers it seems ready to be > merged. I'm going to rebase it on master to get the changes over the past month or so, including the qt-team branch, and let that build out a bit before merging it. > (Besides, I=E2=80=99m curious about the answers to the questions Maxim as= ked > earlier in this thread regarding skipping tests.) I'm going to refer everyone back to the RFC thread on guix-devel to try to keep everything in one place. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:41:11AM -0400, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: > Hi Efraim, >=20 > Efraim Flashner writes: >=20 > > IMO rust-team branch is ready to merge. We've updated rust to 1.70, > > librsvg to 2.56.4 and many new and updated packages. We've added a phase > > to the cargo-build-system to fail if it detects pre-built files and > > we've set the cargo-build-system to skip the test phase by default, > > allowing us to make sure that the packages have the correct inputs. With > > these changes I've gotten 100% of the packages built using the > > cargo-build-system to build successfully. >=20 > This sounds good except I don't understand how disabling the tests by > default help to "make sure that the packages have the correct inputs" ? >=20 > You've explained the rationale here: > , > saying we sometimes use a newer Rust than the package tests are > expecting; how does it work in the Rust world? Don't they always build > even older versions against the most recent compiler? What about the > test suites then? Are these not typically run by users/distributions? I've copied your questions to the thread above and answered them there so we can keep the discussion in one place. > For one thing the 'guix lint' command would need to be told that > cargo-build-system has #:tests? set to #f by default to not warn without > reasons that '#:tests? #t' is unnecessary. 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We've updated rust to 1.70, >> > librsvg to 2.56.4 and many new and updated packages. We've added a phase >> > to the cargo-build-system to fail if it detects pre-built files and >> > we've set the cargo-build-system to skip the test phase by default, >> > allowing us to make sure that the packages have the correct inputs. With >> > these changes I've gotten 100% of the packages built using the >> > cargo-build-system to build successfully. >> >> This sounds good except I don't understand how disabling the tests by >> default help to "make sure that the packages have the correct inputs" ? >> >> You've explained the rationale here: >> , >> saying we sometimes use a newer Rust than the package tests are >> expecting; how does it work in the Rust world? Don't they always build >> even older versions against the most recent compiler? What about the >> test suites then? Are these not typically run by users/distributions? > > I've copied your questions to the thread above and answered them there > so we can keep the discussion in one place. OK! >> For one thing the 'guix lint' command would need to be told that >> cargo-build-system has #:tests? set to #f by default to not warn without >> reasons that '#:tests? #t' is unnecessary. > > I've reverted it for now so we can get the rust-team branch merged and > continue discussing if this is a good idea or not. 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