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28.2; RFE: Provide global key bindings for increasing/decreasing numbers at point

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From: Tim Landscheidt <tim <at> tim-landscheidt.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 66386 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66386: 28.2; RFE: Provide global key bindings for
 increasing/decreasing numbers at point
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2023 14:28:24 +0000

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> wrote:

>> When entering a number with read-number or skeleton-read or
>> just editing text, it can be very useful to increase/de-
>> crease the number at point.  For Org, Emacs ships the func-
>> tions org-increase-number-at-point and
>> org-decrease-number-at-point for this purpose and binds them
>> to C-M-S-<right> and C-M-S-<left>, respectively, in
>> org-mode-map.

>> It would be nice if these functions or some variant could be
>> bound to global key bindings that are active by default in
>> all modes.

> These are trivial functions that everyone who needs them can easily
> code, and bind to any keys they want.  For example, I'd prefer to bind
> them to S-<kp-add> and S-<kp-subtract> instead.  Is it really
> justified to have these in Emacs by default, let alone usurp some
> global key bindings for them?  Why not keep them available only in
> modes where they are really needed?

For me, part of the charm of Emacs is that some concepts are
"universal".  For example, forward-sexp (C-M-<right>) will
move forward one "balanced expression" in an Emacs Lisp buf-
fer, and it will do so in a Python buffer as well.  I do not
have to learn different key bindings (or look them up) be-
cause a "balanced expression" is something that exists in
many/most modes.

I probably would have missed that the Python mode had such a
function if I had not known it from Emacs Lisp mode and just
intuitively used it.  I would neither have written and main-
tained some code to add this functionality just for Python
mode.

The same reasoning applies to the concept of "numbers": They
exist in many/most modes, writing personal code is a dupli-
cation of effort, and I had never realized that org-mode
provides such functions because I have never had the need to
increase/decrease numbers in Org buffers, but instead at
prompts and in (other) programming languages.

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