GNU bug report logs - #66190
30.0.50; ns-use-proxy-icon has no effect on macOS 12.6.9

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To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
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Subject: bug#66190: closed (30.0.50; ns-use-proxy-icon has no effect on
 macOS 12.6.9)
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2023 13:43:02 +0000

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.50; ns-use-proxy-icon has no effect on macOS 12.6.9
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2023 02:20:51 -0700

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In emacs -Q, the `ns-use-proxy-icon' option (introduced in Emacs 27)
doesn't appear to have any effect on macOS 12.6.9.  See the attached
screenshot, and compare it to the one here:

https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/33680/how-to-remove-the-icon-in-the-titlebar

Changing the value to nil also seems to have no effect.

While we're at it, the documentation of this could be clearer; neither
the manual nor the docstring explain what a "proxy icon" even is.  I had
to search online, and find the above link, to understand what it is
supposed to do.

In addition, can this variable be set in a running Emacs?  The above
Stackoverflow link suggests that you might need to restart Emacs, but
AFAICT there is nothing about that in our documentation.

Am I missing something about how this is supposed to work?


In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin21.6.0, NS
 appkit-2113.60 Version 12.6.9 (Build 21G726)) of 2023-09-25 built on
 MY-MacBook-Pro
Repository revision: 22fe8955c21dbcc5c7c422a9917f77bf73794cc4
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2113
System Description:  macOS 12.6.9

Configured using:
 'configure --with-native-compilation'

Configured features:
ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY
KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS
TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: sv_SE.UTF-8
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Major mode: Lisp Interaction

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Memory information:
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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>, 66190-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#66190: 30.0.50;
 ns-use-proxy-icon has no effect on macOS 12.6.9
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 06:41:36 -0700

Version: 29.2

Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> writes:
>
>> I've never even seen a real machine running macOS > 10, so I've no
>> idea what Apple have done to the title bar.
>
> It's still there in Ventura (macOS 13).  You might have to disable
> Emacs' tool-bar-mode, though, to see it.
>
>>> While we're at it, the documentation of this could be clearer; neither
>>> the manual nor the docstring explain what a "proxy icon" even is.  I had
>>> to search online, and find the above link, to understand what it is
>>> supposed to do.
>>
>> I honestly don't know what it's for. I think you can maybe drag it to
>> other applications like you can drag icons from Finder?
>
> Yup.

Thanks, disabling tool-bar-mode and dragging it to another application
works here.

I've now installed a fix on emacs-29, which should hopefully make the
situation a bit more clear [1: 3ef259e28a8].  Let me know if you see
anything there that could be improved.

[1: 3ef259e28a8]: 2023-10-01 15:37:06 +0200
  Improve documentation of `ns-use-proxy-icon`
  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?id=3ef259e28a84049fdb4499c9ad81ed2c3216f76b

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