From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). Resent-From: "Jan D." 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Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': % emacs -Q -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-iso10646-1 (or monospace-18 if you have Xft). Notice that the fringe close to scroll bar is much wider than the other fringe (see screenshot). This appears to depend on the font size, as for smaller fonts, the effect is not that noticable. For example, with Gtk+ and lucid, monospace-19 shows this rather well, but for monospace-20, there is little difference. But for monospace-20 the fringes are much smaller than for monospace-20. Why? Seen on lucid, Motif/Lesstif, and Gtk+ Emacs builds. Jan D. 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References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.127869494221679 (code B ref 6592); Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:03:02 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2010 17:02:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXGxx-0005dc-Qo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:02:22 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.197]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXGxw-0005dX-A6 for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:02:21 -0400 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBBDE9110 for <6592@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 19:02:14 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Asc4AKvyNkxV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHb4wUjD8MAQEBATUtvyOFJwQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,564,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="101772203" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 09 Jul 2010 19:02:14 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE8767FA05A for <6592@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 19:02:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C375614.2050406@swipnet.se> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:02:12 +0200 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) FWIW, I see that the 23-branch has some fringe patches that trunk hasn't. But the same problem is in the 23-branch. Jan D. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Jan D." Cc: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.127870138024807 (code B ref 6592); Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2010 18:49:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXIdo-0006S4-KU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:49:40 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXIdl-0006Rz-ND for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:49:38 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Jul 2010 18:49:32 -0000 Received: from i59F54AA0.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.74.160] by mail.gmx.net (mp037) with SMTP; 09 Jul 2010 20:49:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18x6G0+S90xkMtQsKxhVETX5ocBfhh5jo/3K9mbx4 EllmIgykkBfum9 Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B517B103F0; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 20:49:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Stephen Berman References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:49:31 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> (Jan D.'s message of "Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:49:28 +0200") Message-ID: <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:49:28 +0200 "Jan D." wrote: > Notice that the fringe close to scroll bar is much wider than the other > fringe (see screenshot). This appears to depend on the font size, as > for smaller fonts, the effect is not that noticable. > For example, with Gtk+ and lucid, monospace-19 shows this rather well, > but for monospace-20, there is little difference. But for monospace-20 > the fringes are much smaller than for monospace-20. Why? Hasn't it been like that since this change? 2007-07-27 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu * w32term.c (w32_draw_fringe_bitmap): Extend fringe background to scroll bar gap. (x_scroll_bar_create): Set bar->fringe_extended_p. (w32_set_vertical_scroll_bar): Put leftmost/rightmost scroll bars on frame edge. Check fringe background extension. Don't clear extended fringe background area. * w32term.h (struct scroll_bar): New member fringe_extended_p. (w32_fill_area): Enclose multiple statements with do ... while (0). * xterm.c (x_draw_fringe_bitmap) [USE_TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS]: Extend fringe background to scroll bar gap. (x_scroll_bar_create) [USE_TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS]: Set bar->fringe_extended_p. (XTset_vertical_scroll_bar) [USE_TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS]: Put leftmost/rightmost scroll bars on frame edge. Check fringe background extension. Don't clear extended fringe background area. * xterm.h (struct scroll_bar) [USE_TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS]: New member fringe_extended_p. Steve Berman From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). Resent-From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stephen Berman Cc: "Jan D." , 6592@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.12787225892151 (code B ref 6592); Sat, 10 Jul 2010 00:44:01 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2010 00:43:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXO9s-0000Ye-RT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:43:09 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXO9q-0000YH-8M for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:43:07 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7F0C0557; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:42:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:42:59 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu In-Reply-To: <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 =?UTF-8?Q?(Shij=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) >>>>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:49:31 +0200, Stephen Berman said: > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:49:28 +0200 "Jan D." > wrote: >> Notice that the fringe close to scroll bar is much wider than the >> other fringe (see screenshot). This appears to depend on the font >> size, as for smaller fonts, the effect is not that noticable. For >> example, with Gtk+ and lucid, monospace-19 shows this rather well, >> but for monospace-20, there is little difference. But for >> monospace-20 the fringes are much smaller than for monospace-20. >> Why? > Hasn't it been like that since this change? > 2007-07-27 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Exactly. For more info, see the thread starting from http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-03/msg00295.html YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Cc: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.127875259714438 (code B ref 6592); Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2010 09:03:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXVxs-0003kp-7i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 05:03:16 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h32.telenor.se ([213.150.131.5]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXVxq-0003kk-61 for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 05:03:15 -0400 Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-h32.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D404E937D for <6592@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:03:10 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkYuAOfTN0xV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACgSgwBAQEBNS29IoUnBIdxigk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,179,1278280800"; d="png'150?scan'150,208,150";a="545514619" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 10 Jul 2010 11:03:09 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E8857FA05A; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:03:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C38374C.3090905@swipnet.se> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:03:08 +0200 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090001010904040708090903" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090001010904040708090903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu skrev 2010-07-10 02.42: >>>>>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:49:31 +0200, Stephen Berman said: > >> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:49:28 +0200 "Jan D." >> wrote: >>> Notice that the fringe close to scroll bar is much wider than the >>> other fringe (see screenshot). This appears to depend on the font >>> size, as for smaller fonts, the effect is not that noticable. For >>> example, with Gtk+ and lucid, monospace-19 shows this rather well, >>> but for monospace-20, there is little difference. But for >>> monospace-20 the fringes are much smaller than for monospace-20. >>> Why? > >> Hasn't it been like that since this change? > >> 2007-07-27 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu > > Exactly. For more info, see the thread starting from > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-03/msg00295.html > There is something off with the calculations for the frame size then. Check attached screen shots. The right fringe is not visible. The frame size calculation uses f->scroll_bar_actual_width which in this case is 16. But the finge padding must be 14 pixels (font width is 15, so I assume padding to 30 is done). In what frame parameter or struct frame member is this padding seen if not in scroll_bar_actual_width? Please don't suggest using columns * font width, it would just make the restriction of integral font width harder to remove. 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Resent-From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.127882012323693 (code B ref 6592); Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2010 03:48:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXnX0-0006A6-L1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:48:43 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXnWx-0006A1-2n for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:48:40 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CD2C0557; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:48:35 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:48:35 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu In-Reply-To: <4C38374C.3090905@swipnet.se> References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> <4C38374C.3090905@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 =?UTF-8?Q?(Shij=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) >>>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:03:08 +0200, Jan Dj=E4rv = said: >>> Hasn't it been like that since this change? >>=20 >>> 2007-07-27 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu >>=20 >> Exactly. For more info, see the thread starting from >> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-03/msg00295.html >>=20 > There is something off with the calculations for the frame size > then. Check attached screen shots. The right fringe is not > visible. The change I made in 2007-07-27 has nothing to do with the calculation of fringe width, the position of fringes, or frame size calculation. It just fills the gap between a fringe and a scroll bar with the fringe background color when appropriate. The gap is still a part of scroll bar area painted by the same color with the adjacent fringe background. So if something is wrong with frame size calculation, then that should have happened without my change. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Cc: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.127883615930295 (code B ref 6592); Sun, 11 Jul 2010 08:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2010 08:15:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXrhf-0007sa-2n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 04:15:59 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h31.telenor.se ([213.150.131.4]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXrhc-0007sT-6p for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 04:15:57 -0400 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h31.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426DE9CE9 for <6592@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:15:54 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhcwAJ4aOUxV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACgPgwBAQEBNS28ZoUnBIdxigk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,182,1278280800"; d="scan'208";a="102536287" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 11 Jul 2010 10:15:54 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0FE6C7FA05A; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:15:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C397DBA.2070202@swipnet.se> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:15:54 +0200 From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> <4C38374C.3090905@swipnet.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu skrev 2010-07-11 05.48: >>>>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:03:08 +0200, Jan Dj=E4rv said: > >>>> Hasn't it been like that since this change? >>> >>>> 2007-07-27 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu >>> >>> Exactly. For more info, see the thread starting from >>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-03/msg00295.html >>> > >> There is something off with the calculations for the frame size >> then. Check attached screen shots. The right fringe is not >> visible. > > The change I made in 2007-07-27 has nothing to do with the calculation > of fringe width, the position of fringes, or frame size calculation. > It just fills the gap between a fringe and a scroll bar with the > fringe background color when appropriate. The gap is still a part of > scroll bar area painted by the same color with the adjacent fringe > background. So if something is wrong with frame size calculation, > then that should have happened without my change. That is true. I see your patch uses WINDOW_CONFIG_SCROLL_BAR_WIDTH, and = there=20 is a corresponding FRAME_CONFIG_SCROLL_BAR_WIDTH, but that is never set. However, I think that scroll bars at the frame level (i.e. left or right = edge=20 of the frame) don't need any padding. It is only on other window scroll = bars that padding is needed, to keep integral column width. I'll try something based on that. Jan D. From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). Resent-From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6592 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Cc: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman Received: via spool by 6592-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6592.12788944157412 (code B ref 6592); Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 6592) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2010 00:26:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OY6rG-0001vV-FX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:26:54 -0400 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp ([133.82.132.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OY6rD-0001vF-ON for 6592@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:26:53 -0400 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76BCC0557; Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:26:50 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:26:50 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu In-Reply-To: <4C397DBA.2070202@swipnet.se> References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> <4C38374C.3090905@swipnet.se> <4C397DBA.2070202@swipnet.se> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 =?UTF-8?Q?(Shij=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) >>>>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:15:54 +0200, Jan Dj=E4rv = said: > However, I think that scroll bars at the frame level (i.e. left or > right edge of the frame) don't need any padding. It is only on > other window scroll bars that padding is needed, to keep integral > column width. Even for a leftmost/rightmost scroll bar, some adjustment is necessary if its width/position is configured differently from what the frame parameter specifies (scroll bar width/position can be specified per frame, per buffer, and per window). Perhaps the current fringe background extension code can be reused for such cases. > I'll try something based on that. Good luck! YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp From unknown Sun Jun 22 07:35:47 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: "Jan D." Subject: bug#6592: closed (Re: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes).) Message-ID: References: <4C3DD507.5030603@swipnet.se> <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 6592 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 6592@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:18:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1279120682-22832-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1279120682-22832-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 6592@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 6592: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D6592 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1279120682-22832-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 6592-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2010 15:17:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ3iN-0005w4-5n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:17:39 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.197]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZ3iK-0005vx-VY for 6592-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:17:37 -0400 Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-h22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF093E93EA for <6592-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:17:28 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsBBAMtxPUxV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHcIs2jEMMAQEBATUtwC+FJAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,202,1278280800"; d="scan'208";a="105321397" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2010 17:17:28 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A2B027FA05A for <6592-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:17:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C3DD507.5030603@swipnet.se> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:17:27 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 6592-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6592: 24.0.50; Fringe at scroll bar side is wider (sometimes). References: <4C370CC8.6060706@gmail.com> <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> In-Reply-To: <87vd8obidg.fsf@escher.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6592-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Simple fix checked in. Complete solution (remove scroll bar width restriction) is a longer undertaking. 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Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': % emacs -Q -fn -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-iso10646-1 (or monospace-18 if you have Xft). Notice that the fringe close to scroll bar is much wider than the other fringe (see screenshot). This appears to depend on the font size, as for smaller fonts, the effect is not that noticable. For example, with Gtk+ and lucid, monospace-19 shows this rather well, but for monospace-20, there is little difference. But for monospace-20 the fringes are much smaller than for monospace-20. Why? Seen on lucid, Motif/Lesstif, and Gtk+ Emacs builds. Jan D. 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