GNU bug report logs - #65913
with-help-window arranges for 'inhibit-read-only' to be set to 't'

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Message #78 received at 65913 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Christopher Dimech <dimech <at> gmx.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 65913 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, uzibalqa <at> proton.me, heimeborgia <at> protonmail.com,
 stefankangas <at> gmail.com, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65913: with-help-window arranges for 'inhibit-read-only' to
 be set to 't'
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 18:40:16 +0200

> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2023 at 4:15 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz <at> gnu.org>
> To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Cc: uzibalqa <at> proton.me, heimeborgia <at> protonmail.com, stefankangas <at> gmail.com, 65913 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Subject: bug#65913: with-help-window arranges for 'inhibit-read-only' to be set to 't'
>
> > From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> > CC: "65913 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <65913 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>,
> >         "heimeborgia <at> protonmail.com" <heimeborgia <at> protonmail.com>,
> >         "stefankangas <at> gmail.com" <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:03:56 +0000
> >
> > That said, more links from *Help* to manuals
> > could help, I think.
>
> Yes -- when either the manuals have information that is generally
> expected to be in the doc string, but we decided not to have it there
> (e.g., because it's very voluminous), or when the place in the manual
> where to look is not trivially clear from the doc string.

I think the whole point is that if the information is available somewhere,
one should be able to access it (voluminous or not).

> In most cases, the place where to look for the related information in
> the manuals is quite easily found: just visit the manual and then type
> "i SYMBOL RET", where SYMBOL is the name of the variable or the
> function whose doc string you are reading.

There could be some information in the "Introduction to Programming in
Emacs Lisp" that illustrates an actual serious problem and how to get
to the information from within Emacs itself in an efficient way.  But,
in my opinion the introduction is more about toy problems rather than
complicated actual work examples.

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