GNU bug report logs - #65908
29.1.50; Emacs 29 regresses on macOS

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From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com>
To: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
Cc: ccsmile2008 <at> outlook.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 65908 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, gregory <at> heytings.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#65908: 29.1.50; Emacs 29 regresses on macOS
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2023 16:01:52 +0200

Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> writes:

>> That's okay.  What I meant was setting the old locale at the end.
>
> I've managed to reproduce this, and the time difference on my machine
> is ridiculous. From 4 seconds without the setlocale calls to 24
> seconds with.
>

Holy cow!  You mean you removed the setlocale at the end, or what did
you do?

> And that's with a legitimate, installed, locale ID in both cases.
>
> I wonder if this is why some people report Emacs 29 on macOS to be
> noticeably slower. They, of course, blame the graphics changes, but
> with that sort of variation in time...
>
>> > Out of interest, when is it slow? Is it when we have an invalid locale
>> > ID?
>> 
>> That's an interesting question--whatever I do on master, it's almost
>> equally slow :-).
>> 
>> It would be nice if I could get at least the right character encoding on
>> my system...  On the plus side, I at least know now what's happening,
>> although I don't know what to do.
>
> Indeed. I'm tempted to say we should revert the change since I now
> suspect I misunderstood how setlocale works when I wrote this and I'm
> not sure it's actually improving anything.
>
> OTOH, it would be good if we could get this to actually work and
> generate correct locale ID's for the system... But then, I don't know
> what *is* a correct locale ID for a system like yours...

Yeah :-(.  AS I wrote in a different mail, even Terminal doesn't do it
"right".  And I can't even find anywhere what would be Apple's preferred
way of doing this.

>> Aprt from that, I'm currently trying to get profiling working on my old
>> Macbook Pro, to compare the profiles of the 2 commits on emacs-29 which
>> show the difference.  That could maybe answer your question.
>> 
>> Buhut... I can't currently get Instruments to work, which might be
>> related to the fact that I've updated my unsupported by Apple Macbook to
>> Sonoma with OCLP.  Buhut -- maybe the new thunderbolt/magsafe cable for
>> my display arrives soon, so that I can use my Mac mini again.  A lot of
>> construction sites ahead :-).
>
> I couldn't even get the old commit to build, I had to use the current
> master and just revert to see the difference. So best of luck! :)

Thanks :-).

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