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29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on reconnecting

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From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on reconnecting
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 17:58:28 -0700

I have a setting of rcirc that automatically authenticates to NickServ
and automatically join a list of channels[1].  This works when
connecting to the servers for the first time.  However, when it gets
disconnected from the servers (e.g. due to network issues) and
reconnecting, it can still auto-authenticate, but won't rejoin the
channels automatically again.

After some debugging, it turns out that the first time it authenticates
successfully, it will set rcirc-user-authenticated to `t'[2].  When
reconnecting, it will check whether the user is authenticated and only
run the rcirc-authenticated-hook if not[3].  As
rcirc-user-authenticateed will be `t' after the first time, the hook
won't be processed again and hence preventing from rejoining the
channels.

I have tested a patch that resets rcirc-user-authenticated to `nil' that
fixes this issue (tested on 28.2 and 29.1), which is attached inline below.

[1] https://gitlab.com/xiyueden/emacs.d/-/blob/master/init.el?ref_type=heads#L224-272
[2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/net/rcirc.el#n3343
[3] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/net/rcirc.el#n3320


diff --git a/lisp/net/rcirc.el b/lisp/net/rcirc.el
index 1ddffe8dec9..b293a4a442f 100644
--- a/lisp/net/rcirc.el
+++ b/lisp/net/rcirc.el
@@ -859,6 +859,7 @@ If QUIET is non-nil, no not emit a message."
       (if (rcirc--connection-open-p process)
           (throw 'exit (or quiet (message "Server process is alive")))
         (delete-process process))
+      (setq rcirc-user-authenticated nil)
       (let ((conn-info rcirc-connection-info))
         (setf (nth 5 conn-info)
               (cl-remove-if-not #'rcirc-channel-p




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Message #12 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:57:02 -0700

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I have a setting of rcirc that automatically authenticates to NickServ
> and automatically join a list of channels[1].  This works when
> connecting to the servers for the first time.  However, when it gets
> disconnected from the servers (e.g. due to network issues) and
> reconnecting, it can still auto-authenticate, but won't rejoin the
> channels automatically again.
>
> After some debugging, it turns out that the first time it authenticates
> successfully, it will set rcirc-user-authenticated to `t'[2].  When
> reconnecting, it will check whether the user is authenticated and only
> run the rcirc-authenticated-hook if not[3].  As
> rcirc-user-authenticateed will be `t' after the first time, the hook
> won't be processed again and hence preventing from rejoining the
> channels.
>
> I have tested a patch that resets rcirc-user-authenticated to `nil' that
> fixes this issue (tested on 28.2 and 29.1), which is attached inline below.
>
> [1] https://gitlab.com/xiyueden/emacs.d/-/blob/master/init.el?ref_type=heads#L224-272
> [2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/net/rcirc.el#n3343
> [3] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/net/rcirc.el#n3320
>
>
> diff --git a/lisp/net/rcirc.el b/lisp/net/rcirc.el
> index 1ddffe8dec9..b293a4a442f 100644
> --- a/lisp/net/rcirc.el
> +++ b/lisp/net/rcirc.el
> @@ -859,6 +859,7 @@ If QUIET is non-nil, no not emit a message."
>        (if (rcirc--connection-open-p process)
>            (throw 'exit (or quiet (message "Server process is alive")))
>          (delete-process process))
> +      (setq rcirc-user-authenticated nil)
>        (let ((conn-info rcirc-connection-info))
>          (setf (nth 5 conn-info)
>                (cl-remove-if-not #'rcirc-channel-p
>

Hi Stefan,

I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
"wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
request (a wishlist).  (If you are using severity as a means to manage
bug triage priority I'm OK with that.)

Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
be handled with care.

Thanks!
--
Manphiz

Message #15 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:57:44 -0700

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I have a setting of rcirc that automatically authenticates to NickServ
> and automatically join a list of channels[1].  This works when
> connecting to the servers for the first time.  However, when it gets
> disconnected from the servers (e.g. due to network issues) and
> reconnecting, it can still auto-authenticate, but won't rejoin the
> channels automatically again.
>
> After some debugging, it turns out that the first time it authenticates
> successfully, it will set rcirc-user-authenticated to `t'[2].  When
> reconnecting, it will check whether the user is authenticated and only
> run the rcirc-authenticated-hook if not[3].  As
> rcirc-user-authenticateed will be `t' after the first time, the hook
> won't be processed again and hence preventing from rejoining the
> channels.
>
> I have tested a patch that resets rcirc-user-authenticated to `nil' that
> fixes this issue (tested on 28.2 and 29.1), which is attached inline below.
>
> [1] https://gitlab.com/xiyueden/emacs.d/-/blob/master/init.el?ref_type=heads#L224-272
> [2] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/net/rcirc.el#n3343
> [3] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/lisp/net/rcirc.el#n3320
>
>
> diff --git a/lisp/net/rcirc.el b/lisp/net/rcirc.el
> index 1ddffe8dec9..b293a4a442f 100644
> --- a/lisp/net/rcirc.el
> +++ b/lisp/net/rcirc.el
> @@ -859,6 +859,7 @@ If QUIET is non-nil, no not emit a message."
>        (if (rcirc--connection-open-p process)
>            (throw 'exit (or quiet (message "Server process is alive")))
>          (delete-process process))
> +      (setq rcirc-user-authenticated nil)
>        (let ((conn-info rcirc-connection-info))
>          (setf (nth 5 conn-info)
>                (cl-remove-if-not #'rcirc-channel-p
>

Hi Stefan,

I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
"wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
request (a wishlist).  (If you are using severity as a means to manage
bug triage priority I'm OK with that.)

Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
be handled with care.

Thanks!
--
Manphiz

Message #18 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>, 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1;
 rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on reconnecting
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 19:27:48 -0700

severity 65882 + minor
thanks

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
> request (a wishlist).

Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.

> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
> I'm OK with that.)

My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.

> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
> be handled with care.

I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
comments first.

Message #23 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>,
 Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 22:30:19 -0700

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> severity 65882 + minor
> thanks
>
> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>> request (a wishlist).
>
> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>

Thanks!

>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>> I'm OK with that.)
>
> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>

Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)

>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>> be handled with care.
>
> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
> comments first.

Great!  Thanks again!

-- 
Manphiz

Message #26 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
To: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 07:50:23 +0000

The change makes sense, but I'll want to try it out to make sure we are
doing the right thing.  Unless I write something here, ping me in a few
days.  These kinds of auto-reconnect bugs can be annoying to debug in
real-life situations.

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> severity 65882 + minor
>> thanks
>>
>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>>> request (a wishlist).
>>
>> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>>
>
> Thanks!
>
>>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>>> I'm OK with that.)
>>
>> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
>> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
>> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>>
>
> Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
> the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)

So this patch would be applied without a copyright assignment, right?

>>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>>> be handled with care.
>>
>> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
>> comments first.
>
> Great!  Thanks again!

Message #29 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
Cc: 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 01:15:21 -0700

Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:

> The change makes sense, but I'll want to try it out to make sure we are
> doing the right thing.  Unless I write something here, ping me in a few
> days.

Thanks Philip!  Will do.

> These kinds of auto-reconnect bugs can be annoying to debug in
> real-life situations.
>

Indeed.  Learned it the hard way when debugging this issue.

> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> severity 65882 + minor
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>>>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>>>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>>>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>>>> request (a wishlist).
>>>
>>> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>>>> I'm OK with that.)
>>>
>>> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
>>> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
>>> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>>>
>>
>> Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
>> the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)
>
> So this patch would be applied without a copyright assignment, right?
>

Yes if it would mean that it can be included faster once approved, or
whatever even faster means if you see fit :)

>>>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>>>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>>>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>>>> be handled with care.
>>>
>>> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
>>> comments first.
>>
>> Great!  Thanks again!

-- 
Manphiz

Message #32 received at 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
Cc: 65882 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 08:00:55 -0700

Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:

> The change makes sense, but I'll want to try it out to make sure we are
> doing the right thing.  Unless I write something here, ping me in a few
> days.  These kinds of auto-reconnect bugs can be annoying to debug in
> real-life situations.
>

Friendly ping.

> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> severity 65882 + minor
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>>>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>>>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>>>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>>>> request (a wishlist).
>>>
>>> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>>>> I'm OK with that.)
>>>
>>> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
>>> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
>>> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>>>
>>
>> Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
>> the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)
>
> So this patch would be applied without a copyright assignment, right?
>
>>>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>>>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>>>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>>>> be handled with care.
>>>
>>> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
>>> comments first.
>>
>> Great!  Thanks again!

-- 
Manphiz

Message #37 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
To: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 16:27:10 +0000

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:
>
>> The change makes sense, but I'll want to try it out to make sure we are
>> doing the right thing.  Unless I write something here, ping me in a few
>> days.  These kinds of auto-reconnect bugs can be annoying to debug in
>> real-life situations.
>>
>
> Friendly ping.

I haven't noticed any issues, and the change makes sense.  I'll apply it
to master.  Thanks!

>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> severity 65882 + minor
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>>>>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>>>>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>>>>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>>>>> request (a wishlist).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>>>>> I'm OK with that.)
>>>>
>>>> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
>>>> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
>>>> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
>>> the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)
>>
>> So this patch would be applied without a copyright assignment, right?
>>
>>>>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>>>>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>>>>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>>>>> be handled with care.
>>>>
>>>> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
>>>> comments first.
>>>
>>> Great!  Thanks again!

Message #40 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 09:57:57 -0700

Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:

> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:
>>
>>> The change makes sense, but I'll want to try it out to make sure we are
>>> doing the right thing.  Unless I write something here, ping me in a few
>>> days.  These kinds of auto-reconnect bugs can be annoying to debug in
>>> real-life situations.
>>>
>>
>> Friendly ping.
>
> I haven't noticed any issues, and the change makes sense.  I'll apply it
> to master.  Thanks!
>

Great, thanks!

Additionally, is it OK to backport this to 29 branch or even 28 branch?
Or is there any automatic backport process for release branches?

>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> severity 65882 + minor
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>>>>>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>>>>>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>>>>>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>>>>>> request (a wishlist).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>>>>>> I'm OK with that.)
>>>>>
>>>>> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
>>>>> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
>>>>> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
>>>> the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)
>>>
>>> So this patch would be applied without a copyright assignment, right?
>>>
>>>>>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>>>>>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>>>>>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>>>>>> be handled with care.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
>>>>> comments first.
>>>>
>>>> Great!  Thanks again!

-- 
Manphiz

Message #43 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
To: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 08:23:42 +0000

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:
>
>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> The change makes sense, but I'll want to try it out to make sure we are
>>>> doing the right thing.  Unless I write something here, ping me in a few
>>>> days.  These kinds of auto-reconnect bugs can be annoying to debug in
>>>> real-life situations.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Friendly ping.
>>
>> I haven't noticed any issues, and the change makes sense.  I'll apply it
>> to master.  Thanks!
>>
>
> Great, thanks!
>
> Additionally, is it OK to backport this to 29 branch or even 28 branch?

I don't know if bugs are backported onto emacs-28, the branch seems to
be stale.  The emacs-29 branch might be viable, but I don't want to
decide that myself.  If Stefan is fine with that, I can take care of it.

> Or is there any automatic backport process for release branches?

Not that I know of.

>>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> severity 65882 + minor
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed that you lowered the severity of this bug from "normal" to
>>>>>>> "wishlist".  AIUI rcirc provides a way to automatically join channels
>>>>>>> upon connecting to a server and currently this is not working as
>>>>>>> intended, so IMHO it should be considered a bug instead of a feature
>>>>>>> request (a wishlist).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, so I bumped it to minor.  I hope that makes more sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> (If you are using severity as a means to manage bug triage priority
>>>>>>> I'm OK with that.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My impression is that almost no one pays attention to bug severities, so
>>>>>> I wouldn't make too much of it.  Bug reports that come with a patch,
>>>>>> like yours did, tend to get more visibility though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah got it.  It's my first time filing bug here so not very familiar with
>>>>> the convention.  Looks like tagging patch was a good move :)
>>>>
>>>> So this patch would be applied without a copyright assignment, right?
>>>>
>>>>>>> Personally, as the patch is sufficiently trivial, I would hope it won't
>>>>>>> take too much work for a review.  But I would understand if dealing with
>>>>>>> rcirc-user-authenticated is more involved than it looks like and should
>>>>>>> be handled with care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've copied in the rcirc maintainers.  Let's see if they have any
>>>>>> comments first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Great!  Thanks again!

Message #46 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>, Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1;
 rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on reconnecting
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 01:46:14 -0700

Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:

>> Additionally, is it OK to backport this to 29 branch or even 28 branch?
>
> I don't know if bugs are backported onto emacs-28, the branch seems to
> be stale.

We don't plan to make any more releases of Emacs 28, so we don't bother
with backporting fixes there.

> The emacs-29 branch might be viable, but I don't want to decide that
> myself.  If Stefan is fine with that, I can take care of it.

I don't necessarily object, but is it a regression?  Is the change safe?
If the answer to either of those questions is "no", I think master is
the safer choice.

>> Or is there any automatic backport process for release branches?
>
> Not that I know of.

The process is indeed manual.

Message #49 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>,
 Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2023 14:37:13 -0700

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:
>
>>> Additionally, is it OK to backport this to 29 branch or even 28 branch?
>>
>> I don't know if bugs are backported onto emacs-28, the branch seems to
>> be stale.
>
> We don't plan to make any more releases of Emacs 28, so we don't bother
> with backporting fixes there.
>
>> The emacs-29 branch might be viable, but I don't want to decide that
>> myself.  If Stefan is fine with that, I can take care of it.
>
> I don't necessarily object, but is it a regression?

The reconnecting and rejoining channels feature is broken in certain
situation, and this patch fixes that.  Some other users claimed this
works for them, so I would say this may be considered a regression.

> Is the change safe?

According to the logic of the code, this patch enables doing work that
(I believe) should have been done and not changing anything else, so I
would say it is safe.

> If the answer to either of those questions is "no", I think master is
> the safer choice.
>

I would say the answers are both yes, but of course that's just my
opinion and the decision is up to you :)

>>> Or is there any automatic backport process for release branches?
>>
>> Not that I know of.
>
> The process is indeed manual.

-- 
Manphiz

Message #52 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>,
 Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1;
 rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on reconnecting
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 04:41:08 -0700

Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:

>> I don't necessarily object, but is it a regression?
>
> The reconnecting and rejoining channels feature is broken in certain
> situation, and this patch fixes that.  Some other users claimed this
> works for them, so I would say this may be considered a regression.
>
>> Is the change safe?
>
> According to the logic of the code, this patch enables doing work that
> (I believe) should have been done and not changing anything else, so I
> would say it is safe.
>
>> If the answer to either of those questions is "no", I think master is
>> the safer choice.
>
> I would say the answers are both yes, but of course that's just my
> opinion and the decision is up to you :)

Thanks.  If Philip agrees, I see no reason why this can't be installed
on emacs-29.

Message #55 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>, Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 12:43:40 +0000

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> I don't necessarily object, but is it a regression?
>>
>> The reconnecting and rejoining channels feature is broken in certain
>> situation, and this patch fixes that.  Some other users claimed this
>> works for them, so I would say this may be considered a regression.
>>
>>> Is the change safe?
>>
>> According to the logic of the code, this patch enables doing work that
>> (I believe) should have been done and not changing anything else, so I
>> would say it is safe.
>>
>>> If the answer to either of those questions is "no", I think master is
>>> the safer choice.
>>
>> I would say the answers are both yes, but of course that's just my
>> opinion and the decision is up to you :)
>
> Thanks.  If Philip agrees, I see no reason why this can't be installed
> on emacs-29.

I am fine with it as well, so I'll cherry-pick the branch from master
onto emacs-29.

Message #58 received at 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
Cc: 65882-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ryan Yeske <rcyeske <at> gmail.com>,
 Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>, Leo Liu <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: bug#65882: 29.1; rcirc doesn't rejoin channels automatically on
 reconnecting
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 15:34:21 -0700

Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net> writes:

> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Manphiz <manphiz <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>> I don't necessarily object, but is it a regression?
>>>
>>> The reconnecting and rejoining channels feature is broken in certain
>>> situation, and this patch fixes that.  Some other users claimed this
>>> works for them, so I would say this may be considered a regression.
>>>
>>>> Is the change safe?
>>>
>>> According to the logic of the code, this patch enables doing work that
>>> (I believe) should have been done and not changing anything else, so I
>>> would say it is safe.
>>>
>>>> If the answer to either of those questions is "no", I think master is
>>>> the safer choice.
>>>
>>> I would say the answers are both yes, but of course that's just my
>>> opinion and the decision is up to you :)
>>
>> Thanks.  If Philip agrees, I see no reason why this can't be installed
>> on emacs-29.
>
> I am fine with it as well, so I'll cherry-pick the branch from master
> onto emacs-29.

Great!  Thanks everyone!

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