From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:16:51 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65818: 30.0.50; Mention NonGNU ELPA in C-h C-e Resent-From: Eshel Yaron Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 09:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 65818 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 65818@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16941650326178 (code B ref -1); Fri, 08 Sep 2023 09:24:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 09:23:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiR-0001bZ-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:52 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:43766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiN-0001bJ-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiD-000737-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:37 -0400 Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16] helo=eshelyaron.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiA-00058J-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1694165013; bh=8byRTsnSM6GtRCwOiEPNnl5j0MDjqW1zCWhcafse5W0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=L1D0KNymOOlwbB5YYtuUW+mbFgn/ReWq9AzMCqOyfisn+ueGUThHRuujVWGO0eJmr s29PzA0O/PkIAYc8iHu7NOUsMI8+ZrRNJJBs5qdfyKMq/a+8QLE+e5KtnpbvpdjfFf E8hdLhmoehGoQnnGn2qkF186ovA5/m5vPGhUArRI/9w3VyQvV+6EyDYdT6O290Ngir cyJwme50SdFoVsM8wRb/FZiTBZUiJ9PS42fugzv8VqG+qULZR3Ha6T1ZmK/z5ROTQ8 2y4XHQIPLZUsmsJBkuCT/0ZpBjAFXfF218uNCK6Fl5u2eawOAxuIC6KykVk9q6TSk0 dMOvvQuXRJRuw== From: Eshel Yaron X-Hashcash: 1:20:230908:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::bGVit8s42uQJquhm:8GDf Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 11:23:29 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=107.175.124.16; envelope-from=me@eshelyaron.com; helo=eshelyaron.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) `C-h C-e` displays `(info "(efaq)Packages that do not come with Emacs")`, which says: There are other Emacs Lisp package archives [besides GNU ELPA]. To use additional archives, you can customize the 'package-archives' variable. Those archives have no affiliation with GNU Emacs, and we do not monitor how they are maintained. This seems to disregard NonGNU ELPA, which is also included by default in `package-archives`. I'm not sure exactly where, but it seems like this node should mention NonGNU ELPA as well. In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-apple-darwin22.5.0, NS appkit-2299.60 Version 13.4 (Build 22F66)) of 2023-09-08 Repository revision: 46249f6139d1ea9aeb856febeffe2e4bac912e06 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299 System Description: macOS 13.4 Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-g0 -O3' --with-native-compilation --with-json --with-imagemagick --with-tree-sitter --enable-link-time-optimization' Configured features: ACL DBUS GIF GMP GNUTLS IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8- From unknown Sat Aug 16 19:16:51 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Eshel Yaron Subject: bug#65818: closed (Re: bug#65818: 30.0.50; Mention NonGNU ELPA in C-h C-e) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 65818 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 65818@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 11:23:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1694172182-18461-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1694172182-18461-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #65818: 30.0.50; Mention NonGNU ELPA in C-h C-e which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 65818@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 65818: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D65818 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1694172182-18461-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 65818-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 11:22:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeZZM-0004n5-KW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:22:36 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::134]:51564) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeZZI-0004mo-03 for 65818-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:22:34 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-50079d148aeso3282333e87.3 for <65818-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 04:22:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694172143; x=1694776943; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lfdEwHtarprX03KxZdzob8zoBzgYZhScpAJ9JFHUHV8=; b=mR4r2DMwt/2P3OZRYOMOx7L+MZYwM5jlpQOxhS17qt5IODAsmkNDak7kwQSgXVU06K g9Wem8ybgR/nONhHusOYP78vpwWUH4JhcocXyWLteZ+vNKlsakkgAWfXhoBic4iuAnnl JxXeXST+E6tqSm7We9Qt83Rof4uXR9HWwvhw9HWxrLUB28vrd+QAPbwmbKfS6ZvjmVe9 GrVZsW2J6y6IyI5Ut7LaK0Wdqg/mCbHwcZ9jRbCT6XZ8sl6S8AukRc03hU9UTYYXg4D5 c+SE1nAw/6CokH9GfsvzMQo7P4fzvBk19mA3Hxs80DQlOPDzbdEvsZX5wIJcF+OXtkxE 53cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694172143; x=1694776943; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=lfdEwHtarprX03KxZdzob8zoBzgYZhScpAJ9JFHUHV8=; b=JEGQxSdvs+HzaQDob0Iyn2n1/r45DUeTzZOECnOTxvZmGYO7CGcD4BwpECkVAuXzpg 9SoW+gs+nC+LCDAR8tI6aSHbt9ZuraQGzX5gdyTc+2OwZBsvaQnrS1MIxVabxbMMouLf WqS/h2CSFieuKzlxVmcHXcEgNvCpv9TKM3EMqCSJ3ONyunmvvQv1mYUJZYAUbhTb6yPt RHWn2x/8y/Aqpb4rcsStDwklrJ/ptqzxnKh6AwlSq2jzphZBoZTUR+eGFlRHbNf4TAYj HtPZC17J8yZeqz/SVgW44Z7aFrsUG18cCQYTtnz+3zNcl9ts661rCSMIomAKGA4a7S46 pRSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzZnYsHzzPboKonOrptp7d2U/TyU96Gyr+vMFSzCNKqQUErfyhi R8aBMtQO116YHQrGN4MqppBPJVT9TuIkUaEqKIIJ0fye X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFBVauN61zBwM14ByF9gePZ5i7hmQkVeopAEfbVO4BOmASX7DBfbckDn2qeLmq13lgNg2119t6UBcWjLaxeBmQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:446f:0:b0:500:a08e:2fcf with SMTP id y15-20020ac2446f000000b00500a08e2fcfmr1451483lfl.47.1694172142895; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 04:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 04:22:22 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (Eshel Yaron's message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2023 11:23:29 +0200") References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 04:22:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#65818: 30.0.50; Mention NonGNU ELPA in C-h C-e To: Eshel Yaron Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65818-done Cc: 65818-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Version: 29.2 Eshel Yaron writes: > `C-h C-e` displays `(info "(efaq)Packages that do not come with Emacs")`, > which says: > > There are other Emacs Lisp package archives [besides GNU ELPA]. To use > additional archives, you can customize the 'package-archives' variable. > Those archives have no affiliation with GNU Emacs, and we do not monitor > how they are maintained. > > This seems to disregard NonGNU ELPA, which is also included by default > in `package-archives`. I'm not sure exactly where, but it seems like > this node should mention NonGNU ELPA as well. Thanks, I've added NonGNU ELPA to the FAQ on emacs-29. If someone wants to tweak or improve it, feel free. ------------=_1694172182-18461-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 09:23:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiR-0001bZ-SV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:52 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:43766) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiN-0001bJ-0M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiD-000737-9s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:37 -0400 Received: from mail.eshelyaron.com ([107.175.124.16] helo=eshelyaron.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeXiA-00058J-Rm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:23:37 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=eshelyaron.com; s=mail; t=1694165013; bh=8byRTsnSM6GtRCwOiEPNnl5j0MDjqW1zCWhcafse5W0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=L1D0KNymOOlwbB5YYtuUW+mbFgn/ReWq9AzMCqOyfisn+ueGUThHRuujVWGO0eJmr s29PzA0O/PkIAYc8iHu7NOUsMI8+ZrRNJJBs5qdfyKMq/a+8QLE+e5KtnpbvpdjfFf E8hdLhmoehGoQnnGn2qkF186ovA5/m5vPGhUArRI/9w3VyQvV+6EyDYdT6O290Ngir cyJwme50SdFoVsM8wRb/FZiTBZUiJ9PS42fugzv8VqG+qULZR3Ha6T1ZmK/z5ROTQ8 2y4XHQIPLZUsmsJBkuCT/0ZpBjAFXfF218uNCK6Fl5u2eawOAxuIC6KykVk9q6TSk0 dMOvvQuXRJRuw== From: Eshel Yaron To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.50; Mention NonGNU ELPA in C-h C-e X-Hashcash: 1:20:230908:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org::bGVit8s42uQJquhm:8GDf Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 11:23:29 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=107.175.124.16; envelope-from=me@eshelyaron.com; helo=eshelyaron.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) `C-h C-e` displays `(info "(efaq)Packages that do not come with Emacs")`, which says: There are other Emacs Lisp package archives [besides GNU ELPA]. To use additional archives, you can customize the 'package-archives' variable. Those archives have no affiliation with GNU Emacs, and we do not monitor how they are maintained. This seems to disregard NonGNU ELPA, which is also included by default in `package-archives`. I'm not sure exactly where, but it seems like this node should mention NonGNU ELPA as well. In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-apple-darwin22.5.0, NS appkit-2299.60 Version 13.4 (Build 22F66)) of 2023-09-08 Repository revision: 46249f6139d1ea9aeb856febeffe2e4bac912e06 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2299 System Description: macOS 13.4 Configured using: 'configure 'CFLAGS=-g0 -O3' --with-native-compilation --with-json --with-imagemagick --with-tree-sitter --enable-link-time-optimization' Configured features: ACL DBUS GIF GMP GNUTLS IMAGEMAGICK JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY KQUEUE NS PDUMPER PNG SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8- ------------=_1694172182-18461-1--