From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 07 09:15:22 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2023 13:15:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeEqt-00041v-3J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:15:22 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:47718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeElq-0003sm-U2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:10:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeEli-0002xb-86 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:09:59 -0400 Received: from mout-p-202.mailbox.org ([80.241.56.172]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_CHACHA20_POLY1305:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeEld-0001wR-WE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:09:57 -0400 Received: from smtp202.mailbox.org (smtp202.mailbox.org [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:b231:465::202]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-384) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-202.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RhKMm1pztz9sr8 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2023 15:09:40 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=guelker.eu; s=MBO0001; t=1694092180; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nA+Zv/JTE8erfDQg8We1Xdufc2hb/yA1eZwT1VizwqI=; b=qNOBJOaWNlMOtsFQ/uRHQMo+rUoL06nRcBFHk3VdASgDyDrVKmRYgR7f0LhmAb/tYO4HSp J3UAsd+Qda8A/7AGhI/tIwLZf+mJir0KgEkI6bDpafbcGAVcCWFZypA/AAUUbLQDbFmXwd l4EHmD0iRIc9R38UtHGnwRsf8+dbn73XWJe/PdukT9beMYyCtzOnfXLu7D/HLBKJYkOA1K /zMR67oYbIhzuuIbLaKqgzROVKI/ma0jWf7kLSxXXus6XDzT5yZIVI8F2HBZ2TAFcQzxJ3 ciGO2X1Z6LdTmNCEd4a/CL3agGUD8lx0rdHh9SejiUcorDLwhWQ7TF69Itv7EQ== From: Marvin =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=BClker?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 15:01:24 +0200 Message-ID: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RhKMm1pztz9sr8 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=80.241.56.172; envelope-from=post+emacs@guelker.eu; helo=mout-p-202.mailbox.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 09:15:18 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) Dear developers, Emacs fails to recognise a Hyper key modifier sent by the Wayland compositor. I used XKB to make the caps-lock key into the Hyper modifier key using the method described at . Thus, I now have a file ~/.config/xkb/rules/evdev with this content: ! option =3D symbols custom:hypercaps =3D +custom(hypercaps) =20=20=20=20 ! include %S/evdev And ~/.config/xkb/symbols/custom with this content: partial alphanumeric_keys xkb_symbols "hypercaps" { key { [ Hyper_L ] }; modifier_map Mod3 { }; }; This creates a new XKB option custom:hypercaps. I run KDE Plasma, so I enabled this new XKB option by editing ~/.config/kxkbrc so that it contains this line in the section [Layout]: Options=3Dcustom:hypercaps In case it is relevant, other than this I use a German keyboard layout (de). Log out and log in again to have the change take effect. After that, it can be seen in wev(1) that the KDE Wayland compositor emits Hyper_L and maps it to to Mod3 when the former caps-lock key is pressed: [14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 4191; time: 829255; key: 66; state: = 1 (pressed) sym: Hyper_L (65517), utf8: '' [14: wl_keyboard] modifiers: serial: 0; group: 0 depressed: 00000020: Mod3 latched: 00000000 locked: 00000000 [14: wl_keyboard] key: serial: 4193; time: 829286; key: 66; state: = 0 (released) sym: Hyper_L (65517), utf8: '' [14: wl_keyboard] modifiers: serial: 0; group: 0 depressed: 00000000 latched: 00000000 locked: 00000000 Note how this is different from just setting the XKB option caps:hyper, which will only make the compositor emit Hyper_L, but does not map that one to Mod3, but rather to Mod4 (making the key effectively a Super key, which I do not want -- I use Super to control KWin, the window manager). Still, emacs -Q entirely fails to recognise the new Hyper key (or more precisely: the Mod3 modifier). If I press a combination of keys involving the caps-lock key (=3D Hyper_L), it simply ignores it. For instance, pressing [CapsLock]+[A] under the above configuration should result in Emacs signalling "H-a is undefined", but it instead inserts only "a", revealing that no Hyper modifier is applied. To reproduce: 1. Create ~/.config/xkb/rules/evdev and ~/.config/xkb/symbols/custom with the contents shown above. 2. Edit ~/.config/kxkbrc as shown above. 3. Log out and in again. 4. Launch emacs -Q. Press the caps-lock key and the A key simultaneously. Expected behaviour would be the error message "H-a is undefined". Real behaviour is the insertion of the character "a". If I run an Emacs without PGTK enabled (that is, under XWayland) it properly recognises the new Hyper key. System Information: Operating System: Arch Linux=20 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.7 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.109.0 Qt Version: 5.15.10 Kernel Version: 6.4.12-arch1-1 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 8 =C3=97 Intel=C2=AE Core=E2=84=A2 i5-8350U CPU @ 1.70GHz Memory: 15.4 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel=C2=AE UHD Graphics 620 Manufacturer: LENOVO Product Name: 20L6S29E18 System Version: ThinkPad T480 In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38, cairo version 1.17.8) System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure --with-pgtk --with-native-compilation=3Daot --sysconfdir=3D/etc --prefix=3D/usr --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib --with-tree-sitter --localstatedir=3D/var --with-cairo --disable-build-details --with-harfbuzz --with-libsystemd --with-modules 'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dx86-64 -mtune=3Dgeneric -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptions -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -Wformat -Werror=3Dformat-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -g -ffile-prefix-map=3D/build/emacs/src=3D/usr/src/debug/emacs -flto=3Dauto' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now -flto=3Dauto' 'CXXFLAGS=3D-march=3Dx86-64 -mtune=3Dgeneric -O2 -pipe -fno-plt -fexceptio= ns -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -Wformat -Werror=3Dformat-security -fstack-clash-protection -fcf-protection -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -g -ffile-prefix-map=3D/build/emacs/src=3D/usr/src/debug/emacs -flto=3Dauto'' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs comp comp-cstr warnings icons subr-x rx cl-seq cl-macs gv cl-extra help-mode bytecomp byte-compile cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk pgtk lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 76839 6912) (symbols 48 7115 0) (strings 32 19631 2224) (string-bytes 1 574914) (vectors 16 15638) (vector-slots 8 327224 13701) (floats 8 27 46) (intervals 56 247 0) (buffers 984 11)) --=20 Dipl.-Jur. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c36c953d82197287466af81d0fd6d696; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 01:08:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Marvin =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=BClker?= Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) In-Reply-To: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> ("Marvin =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=BClker=22?= =?utf-8?Q?'s?= message of "Thu, 07 Sep 2023 15:01:24 +0200") References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 09:08:39 +0800 Message-ID: <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 271 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Marvin G=C3=BClker writes: > Dear developers, > > Emacs fails to recognise a Hyper key modifier sent by the Wayland > compositor. Thanks, but GDK doesn't recognize Hyper keys sent by said compositors. This is not a bug we are capable of fixing. 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September 2023 schrieb Po Lu: > Marvin G=C3=BClker writes: > >> Dear developers, >> >> Emacs fails to recognise a Hyper key modifier sent by the Wayland >> compositor. > > Thanks, but GDK doesn't recognize Hyper keys sent by said compositors. > This is not a bug we are capable of fixing. Should this then be forwarded to the GDK bugtracker? --=20 Dipl.-Jur. M. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 8b538a9be020634304ade04271964c0a; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 05:56:10 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Marvin =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=BClker?= Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) In-Reply-To: <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> ("Marvin =?utf-8?Q?G=C3=BClker=22?= =?utf-8?Q?'s?= message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:25:55 +0200") References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 13:55:59 +0800 Message-ID: <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 608 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Marvin G=C3=BClker writes: > Am Freitag, dem 08. September 2023 schrieb Po Lu: >> Marvin G=C3=BClker writes: >> >>> Dear developers, >>> >>> Emacs fails to recognise a Hyper key modifier sent by the Wayland >>> compositor. >> >> Thanks, but GDK doesn't recognize Hyper keys sent by said compositors. >> This is not a bug we are capable of fixing. > > Should this then be forwarded to the GDK bugtracker? It's already been reported, I think, but in any case it's improbable that the GDK developers are still interested in introducing new features to GDK 3.x. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 08 03:02:19 2023 Received: (at 65802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 07:02:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeVVT-0006Se-K9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 03:02:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeVVQ-0006SQ-R8 for 65802@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 03:02:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeVVI-0007iI-D9; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 03:02:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=eMMnknnXiaS8+3fcG1DMAxM/MPnx/Ya8nu2GS6TxGjA=; b=hcZrNfgoKBHYnnEaN9rN beya1ycylEqp0YMRMQLje9SAy7WBLPNxd5g9UfXO8YciasCQihtWKHt2SiQb6UAsq001kFL0J2QIM RLDfiN4mv40KNtj7LC+1UKGsJ2KPjor/8VEc10ISeotTmDlfLOYYkqRnepET5AsYEyQ2UY+91trRC sxSKiO2rEKJ2st9jbOAmLwdOTMHITOlW3CiZZTL2XLJ4AgH8RRWg2AG5mCMjSwE3Kc4otTu07mufV 9myl7cjTWTojV0y+2yApflHNm6kllQCp7dGaCIjJ/hLJ+G1G0RA8o3pkxhXR/MZgSqvJnKQ1DLxcB lvtScoFiH+36Ww==; Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 10:01:57 +0300 Message-Id: <83cyytxi56.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Po Lu In-Reply-To: <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org, post+emacs@guelker.eu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 13:55:59 +0800 > From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Marvin Gülker writes: > > > Am Freitag, dem 08. September 2023 schrieb Po Lu: > >> Marvin Gülker writes: > >> > >>> Dear developers, > >>> > >>> Emacs fails to recognise a Hyper key modifier sent by the Wayland > >>> compositor. > >> > >> Thanks, but GDK doesn't recognize Hyper keys sent by said compositors. > >> This is not a bug we are capable of fixing. > > > > Should this then be forwarded to the GDK bugtracker? > > It's already been reported, I think, but in any case it's improbable > that the GDK developers are still interested in introducing new features > to GDK 3.x. Does this problem happen only in GTK3, and is absent from GTK4? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID f1aece8ddd7a8e859e7bf4c61ffc68bc; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 07:14:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) In-Reply-To: <83cyytxi56.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 08 Sep 2023 10:01:57 +0300") References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> <83cyytxi56.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 15:14:16 +0800 Message-ID: <87cyytdtmf.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 179 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org, post+emacs@guelker.eu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Does this problem happen only in GTK3, and is absent from GTK4? I believe so. However, porting from GTK3 to GTK4 is not a trivial job... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 08 04:18:16 2023 Received: (at 65802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 08:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42114 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeWgy-0008Kl-37 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 04:18:16 -0400 Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::135]:55380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeWgv-0008KW-LC for 65802@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 04:18:14 -0400 Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-502934c88b7so2555556e87.2 for <65802@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 01:18:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1694161085; x=1694765885; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xOYPTIQx/AAK7lOuTBA48DgTHOez1zvQeozXbD8+zgc=; b=dppis3Pdxf7FL43hcwcWR0/AlpMR9khqm3QTFODyUdD3I9Ee2kYrJVGRNmMiOIzhiM bvAm0v+qN4pOwOC/3TqJGUD2VIydVjnwyuzLuM836nGpvlJC4/ma5IcIXw1aModMWFCB uuQ7M+1/VZU4vsH11Dqcsz4z+y1dEVLGxOvR5rOtkLY5uulUuYN7VryR9JEsCFxwtszy ABiFd/D49y+v2YmBLtjSZxoh4mBh16kZpaFgeY8fcMpE3Rnr5jVXV8EvW+uGbeIxuvdw eUk7KAKIbr+fuvQEvDISoZdx0Dba042LTaK8HIxfpB8gs7/HzWeOKiNVzIRs/7MJraJN dgFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1694161085; x=1694765885; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xOYPTIQx/AAK7lOuTBA48DgTHOez1zvQeozXbD8+zgc=; b=n75JWlswEZbvkVMr2qad1jTtamSOsoTbtsS1qWYmEy1WG1BP7aRlmAfCY2jF+kf34s +4j5semiGJ703RNTFpiWptTeGwdKknK4DVNtG+FlQxpsyzi5HaOK5Mip6jfB6v9XgSzk Q6noOBGQDzlwIp+mnKXxZJ4M4kbt9rfNsaPSczTxaGglY7EsDQ7/ZBbpxHM21TiAh4ZQ e4ve0b+L/9qB/qJ2xPeClOpktArZIsifBO7gvCqrQmk5Ut5XtTxFhAHOuwANaPtoluEg S/v/ElK9eJF88Zrayi2D/d5db3Eiv9327W0TNx7d5YYDgXkUR/q7V3LFwphlcvGU0IKN MF0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwgmTIry5LHwXTE+529c4TPYW4gsVxpLzZn0ETfwnzafxnhYX3T oJgpAmsh2GB7jzMjg3TZUcwcPal+3JAnDmCpR/I= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG0teHvAjbF3qb70BqDTybbhgyUdN5fXXKD7aRE89T2tWL0RfoXvhoa1E/1uHwqip2ozrGnygw98/UV5OdM0Wk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:2829:b0:501:bf15:b87c with SMTP id cf41-20020a056512282900b00501bf15b87cmr1640053lfb.47.1694161085149; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 01:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 8 Sep 2023 01:18:04 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87cyytdtmf.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> <83cyytxi56.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyytdtmf.fsf@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 01:18:04 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) To: Po Lu , Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org, post+emacs@guelker.eu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> Does this problem happen only in GTK3, and is absent from GTK4? > > I believe so. However, porting from GTK3 to GTK4 is not a trivial > job... Is the hope that the PGTK build will be ported to GTK4 at some point? Or is that a bad idea? 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ebd28cc3bc1863b7155b26867f62990e; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:35:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 8 Sep 2023 01:18:04 -0700") References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> <83cyytxi56.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyytdtmf.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 16:35:02 +0800 Message-ID: <874jk5dpvt.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 641 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , post+emacs@guelker.eu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas writes: > Is the hope that the PGTK build will be ported to GTK4 at some point? I've in fact done that, so I have a reasonably accurate grasp of the problems incurred. One example: GTK 4 lacks a traditional menu widget, for which the only substitute provided employs XML-based GMenuModels (that are prohibitively expensive to generate dynamically), so Emacs must implement menu bar widgets itself. I would hope that we eventually take on responsibility for Wayland support ourselves, in lieu of entrusting such tasks to a group of developers whose motives and objectives cannot align with our own. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 08 08:38:28 2023 Received: (at 65802) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2023 12:38:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42512 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeakm-0003ex-JC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:38:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46760) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qeakk-0003ek-NV for 65802@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:38:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qeakd-0002pW-1a; Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:38:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=flDHJVGEIXvn+wpoCYE7t0BO2eIhMGrKb5BO5AZbHLo=; b=LlsIpOH0abes KrRa5fc/ooLSjXygCBcznWvpzyDuzMfgKMDTH8eTJr5q0wmN/I8EPqDDmvuSVpNHU0HY8ntjfszCD MQ5jDBNlU1F8yyOirpZLkOqgTt/4NzN1f409F1Epqs4eO6rNK5/mA4OUfyj5MDd/hNkRBr9jXJvSp jU3kBCVFisClv5UH4zGVvEntYEQSp9K2z61/ZzDeQE1K9EQXBYgg9NzC96UlN9tlmsBLQ38rb+3MS kp543ffJuE+mvogmjW8AuAs9Wy4WAV4gau4PH01hTUBk21uAstc/u4TMlbDLJL5Z0Uq4IiBTHIJtW B4GsB0t4MaNO9y+N1nu3yQ==; Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 15:38:09 +0300 Message-Id: <83tts4x2ku.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Po Lu In-Reply-To: <87cyytdtmf.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 08 Sep 2023 15:14:16 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#65802: 29.1; Emacs fails to recognise Hyper under Wayland (KDE) References: <8734zqp1t8.fsf@guelker.eu> <87y1hheajs.fsf@yahoo.com> <87pm2t5j5e.fsf@guelker.eu> <87h6o5dx8w.fsf@yahoo.com> <83cyytxi56.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyytdtmf.fsf@yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65802 Cc: 65802@debbugs.gnu.org, post+emacs@guelker.eu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Po Lu > Cc: post+emacs@guelker.eu, 65802@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 15:14:16 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Does this problem happen only in GTK3, and is absent from GTK4? > > I believe so. However, porting from GTK3 to GTK4 is not a trivial > job... Thanks, I added this to PROBLEMS. Please see that what I wrote is factually correct, and fix if needed.