From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 01 09:47:19 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2023 13:47:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60136 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4UY-000663-QR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:47:19 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:48038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4UW-00065i-QC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:47:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4UG-0001WJ-0W for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:47:00 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qc4UD-0002jo-E2 for bug-automake@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:46:59 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-99c3d3c3db9so242156966b.3 for ; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 06:46:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693576015; x=1694180815; darn=gnu.org; h=content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=w4T1JucJgY3YVNRFeBMccWZ3KUh7z6jW9ZsfON3+X80=; b=e1/BnkdDFi8aRPjh5EgG1nZ5w+xvaeyVfjgzd7HNKcanxv/GLSk9mZfBEFcPO82Zx8 tbpjbj6d0ZTMZ11VCwKNCo1qAKVwNPu2wsPQFD83gCYr05ePqpqH9tfo6NbhgjoXJLiD nIs49ujDvz/FAzJ8EwaHRtmqsx4GHIncpDxPZnYmAUpBtkjla3XYQOqg/NQrucbA40ie OTjzRVrtmHTC+1RLrkHksrvQKgHioPiNeAPv8A+n2LA/AJ4cj/5qjKlzi7G6e4I6Qz8D HRGt29tpzXWd2FmyqPgmdSw4oWuS9+gP1uZJhl5cjpsYO75/XGgHWhvrz5GVmg7MIL+2 APpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693576015; x=1694180815; h=content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=w4T1JucJgY3YVNRFeBMccWZ3KUh7z6jW9ZsfON3+X80=; b=A1CQgDkV/Qk+HbVdohRUfUl7H4/qWYMT6KmciBAWXMbf1XOFYVrRLh5sTTGvjrotPs mcJcjVnyjzszy08weTnx+OjZlrZ4b0ZB9s4goup+FTOvkekYB4Tz+GVESXRWyUgewebb /otVoVY7kCR5SiLBEf9++ZfJSD1LCLZMTVmZD71p7WHmSpyrVppgU7oc7aszJVCfyIrG SNj7cBykJJRpgVhtk3oXj3IuJ2aHpxsEKE+m/22A0+SmLZnVMtmN+jSm68RCpgVjV2OF vINVNnaLl9S6GX5BP0HCtO2mmGxntPJ9n3sGmeIVXhO2RyYcToy3dFnxdhZgbwhvzX3g XUoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwNq7K/AS5CDg/E3MiSS6pDf54I1vPm1f0NpcEzsjcCrD5dPhbn h4PgcIldYOxgJr8YmQHprl6TYM9LcXg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGC6H5zqJClub4Q14jRM4NmowHGlzDv9blZNMbQI4mwkaJQ1+FGgK0cQZEBNHQZVcN1k6k7hg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:2201:b0:9a5:cf23:de5a with SMTP id s1-20020a170906220100b009a5cf23de5amr1567752ejs.45.1693576015460; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 06:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nz.home ([2a00:23c8:a613:101:729c:d1ff:fe4f:94a3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10-20020a170906714a00b0099364d9f0e9sm1981996ejj.102.2023.09.01.06.46.54 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 01 Sep 2023 06:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nz.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 31FC6EB54D9C7; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:46:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:46:54 +0100 From: Sergei Trofimovich To: bug-automake@gnu.org Subject: Request to cut new automake release to include new pythons Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62f; envelope-from=slyich@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Hi automake developers! Projects using automake build system occasionally get bug reports that python 3.11 and above do not get automatically detected by AM_PATH_PYTHON([3.7]) Recent example: https://github.com/skvadrik/re2c/issues/456 It was fixed a while ago in https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/automake.git/commit/?id=930a9a73f4bb776ec334eff4cf6e182802841daa python: add 3.10 - 3.15 to the version search list Fixes automake bug https://bugs.gnu.org/53530. Based on the cadence of Automake releases, add the current Python release (3.10), the current Python development (3.11), and then 4 more versions on top of that. It doesn't hurt to check for a few extra versions here since this is the fallback logic when the main `python` and `python3` programs aren't found. * m4/python.m4: Add python3.10 - python3.15. * NEWS: Mention new Python versions. WDYT of cutting new `automake` that includes this fix? Then projects could start cutting release tarballs that Just Work for such systems. Thanks -- Sergei From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 01 18:05:44 2023 Received: (at 65679) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2023 22:05:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcCGu-0004N4-Gb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 18:05:44 -0400 Received: from frenzy.freefriends.org ([198.99.81.75]:33160 helo=freefriends.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcCGr-0004Mm-KR; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 18:05:42 -0400 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org Received: from freefriends.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 381M5SXp009235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:05:28 -0600 Received: (from apache@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 381M5S6A009234; Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:05:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 16:05:28 -0600 Message-Id: <202309012205.381M5S6A009234@freefriends.org> From: Karl Berry To: slyich@gmail.com Subject: Re: bug#65679: Request to cut new automake release to include new pythons In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65679 Cc: 65679@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) WDYT of cutting new `automake` that includes this fix? Then projects could start cutting release tarballs that Just Work for such systems. Agreed we need to make a new automake release asap, but unfortunately the code is not ready. Releasing it would cause more problems than it would solve. If Jim (the main Automake maintainer) wants to cut a release with just that fix, I have nothing against it, but it sounds like a lot of work for one relatively small bug. I suspect it would lead to a deluge of bug reports (especially Python-related) for things that have already been fixed. At present I am the main bottleneck, but I can't work faster than I am, which is quite slowly. If another Automake(/Perl/etc.)-savvy volunteer came forward to help with development, that would be great. Until then, I and the other people working on Automake continue to progress as best we can. --thanks, karl. 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