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When the installer should reach the GUI, only a black screen is displayed. I tried to boot by editing Linux boot parameters in GRUB and set `nomodeset` and removed `quiet`. Now without `quiet` I saw the following messages before the black screen: ``` intelfb: Version 0.9.6 intelfb: Cannot reserve FB region ``` Then I tried `nomodeset video=uvesafb` Linux parameters and the GUI now rendered. I don't know if these work as a global workaround for other machines, should they be documented in the installation instructions? --000000000000d4de240603ebea07 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

I'm trying to install Guix s= ystem on an i386 laptop. When the installer should reach the GUI, only a bl= ack screen is displayed.

I tried to boot by editin= g Linux boot parameters in GRUB and set `nomodeset` and removed `quiet`. No= w without `quiet` I saw the following messages before the black screen:

```
intelfb: Version 0.9.6
intelf= b: Cannot reserve FB region
```

Then I t= ried `nomodeset video=3Duvesafb` Linux parameters and the GUI now rendered.= I don't know if these work=C2=A0as a global workaround for other machi= nes, should they be documented in the installation instructions?
=
--000000000000d4de240603ebea07-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 31 06:53:09 2023 Received: (at 65572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2023 10:53:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55036 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbfIT-0007l0-BX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 06:53:09 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.174]:47923) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbfIQ-0007kq-2t for 65572@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 06:53:07 -0400 Received: from mors-relay8204.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay8204.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RbygD1TBwz8YhG; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 10:52:56 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1693479176; bh=18g9cZQHIdAsoVm1Ciz7NQMe/0J9Fk9Nc5pfotyMlKk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=j81qlXs5MqiOETcNN7r2/ok24iNaSf0K26E1WykOj0FAKWHXH4bSbsDSaBCckt78s 3kBP2ed00/9sfzzUfVCkkxkON8PPZTKukpbAxxzONk3ks4hb1nR/F0XcKkOV+htnMt QWgIRUP1r50rc9vu71h5wjnOS1jhVvQklnHpZltT2tURRoj1sCGQqbTRVo5cNEPESc KPKiuE9M7XUUvMhVVb38/rO4TupwHfO/jrssr6O8refan6cyFCOVcrBAbPr4iXGikG JpIKctv52mfMbOyL0ABbl91S8OuDCCR7CtM5xhn5eK/a50noyatias3COx5F2wud0e x50PW+hTvVp8w== Received: from policy01-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay8204.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RbygD0nF3z8Yg4; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 10:52:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at policy01-mors.netcup.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy01-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Rbyg448qTz8sbY; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 12:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2759D81553; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 12:52:43 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Iku-Tulo Vilutar Subject: Re: bug#65572: Black screen in installer References: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 12:52:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Iku-Tulo Vilutar's message of "Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:40:41 +0300") Message-ID: <87a5u7cwlh.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2759D81553 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: ZW5fUD9QYIABwz39U5dviYCcrklR58q+UZUzcPx8a0oqMGi+BCZaRgHU X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65572 Cc: 65572@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hello Iku-Tulo, thank you for the report. Vilutar writes: > intelfb: Version 0.9.6 > intelfb: Cannot reserve FB region An unlikely guess: I have had problems with a black screen when using a television as a screen. However this does not sound like it. > Then I tried `nomodeset video=uvesafb` Linux parameters and the GUI > now rendered. I don't know if these work as a global workaround for > other machines, No, there have been reports that uvesafb does not work on every machine. > should they be documented in the installation > instructions? Yes, if we can give proper instructions. Perhaps the attached patch? Regards, Florian --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=doc-Describe-black-screen-issue-when-booting-the-ins.patch From: Florian Pelz Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 12:44:55 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] doc: Describe black screen issue when booting the installer. With suggestions by Iku-Tulo Vilutar . Fixes . * doc/guix.texi (System Installation): Add suggestion when booting the installer fails with a black screen. --- doc/guix.texi | 10 ++++++++++ 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index 04e5875925..5aeed7851d 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -2402,6 +2402,16 @@ BIOS or UEFI boot menu, where you can choose to boot from the USB stick. In order to boot from Libreboot, switch to the command mode by pressing the @kbd{c} key and type @command{search_grub usb}. +Sadly, on some machines, the installation medium cannot be properly +booted and you only see a black screen after booting. This may +indicate that your machine cannot run Guix System; perhaps you instead +want to install Guix on a foreign distro (@pxref{Binary +Installation}). If you are adventurous, a possible workaround is +pressing the @kbd{e} key in the GRUB boot menu and appending +@option{nomodeset video=uvesafb} to the Linux bootline. Sometimes the +black screen issue can also be resolved by connecting a different +display. + @xref{Installing Guix in a VM}, if, instead, you would like to install Guix System in a virtual machine (VM). base-commit: 299d0463d54c97b237deb2fe9e464108544344c0 -- 2.41.0 --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 31 07:12:02 2023 Received: (at 65572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2023 11:12:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55049 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbfak-0008D0-Fb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 07:12:02 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb2e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2e]:52374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbfai-0008CU-2p for 65572@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 07:12:00 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-xb2e.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-d7ba4c5f581so462159276.0 for <65572@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:11:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693480306; x=1694085106; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Pq2ixIE9nI2Yimq+XCikFahXrDUPs1/Z1SkMvfGzJLI=; b=kqHUF4SPDEuvtVaC3xB5MYGZfDVWIAarDa4OaXIpO0IdqOjf70Gm1BDE9Gue1as/6w NlcyJ5wus68NlxCew6xGLDn12pfl6JRdsaT9mzyj4/6qEHshA1PsxUntPlgru5TDsRNY 985sD9i4phHGh29zuxcF3ZoeTWiFsf7wUXYpxYWviDRyCcnM7NQkB7ALNaUrYJBXlZYB PRXzu5BCU1DG4uTnbl6PZEp98dJiwZr0kB/AhPJin/JghkJ5CyxOHudGsZ1uoUTpnw6Z KJjBFUVhl2GR6v1eIYALxGpe3vQTjPNRDQ4sWIozYqlbfL0iu7xDXWwCcb+nHmdGHwWz U13g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693480306; x=1694085106; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Pq2ixIE9nI2Yimq+XCikFahXrDUPs1/Z1SkMvfGzJLI=; b=iCKsIwPd7Yf+TpRDF03cp70OIDMIXsgJE1gz5mV3dIWGPyQfj+w2LfGk3IRqJsf1fb QWMvLItaAAW+G1eA6O6eS7BrfOtqX7skkx/7YblPT++jNcYDsHNGJkZguiaxW9UIGMqs /vAh6Ai0Bd/4KVYdf9W4mLcnLKbc4iYJNJ4VNS3Oh28lkii60FZcbsci34p7s8IS3lz2 nahiy+EfDp7dpYw2YvKCD/KStRY7D5KY8vAiIZKZR6bD3ouFaP0zNBCVzZxVrZQgzXGM RYLVxAr4INlWMR5m3MrPB/zhwiaQqVfheHIOEldhPTThphxJ1ZRq3bEF56oZ5AoNHBks A0QA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyc0Hu4KSeVvcz9+CFqsqKn4eUF6enfm+lWOE3MZJxvh58QBuIn NI0FSBYE2VnAH81VT/djSeQ8U9SwtMEpVFkgxtKf1TaR X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHv5jnjTmuz0e7mF+05UNHfU6xRRfLXjFw/p5BaqzIwBaYtmeH5l+q6sQNxwanXNGOERKIx/kCTwof0pc+pIIs= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:d4a:0:b0:d7a:c626:538a with SMTP id f10-20020a5b0d4a000000b00d7ac626538amr4799744ybr.62.1693480305839; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:11:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87a5u7cwlh.fsf@pelzflorian.de> In-Reply-To: <87a5u7cwlh.fsf@pelzflorian.de> From: Iku-Tulo Vilutar Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:11:34 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#65572: Black screen in installer To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001053040604361c84" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65572 Cc: 65572@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000001053040604361c84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Looks good to me. Thank you. On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 13:52, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) < pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote: > Hello Iku-Tulo, thank you for the report. > > Vilutar writes: > > intelfb: Version 0.9.6 > > intelfb: Cannot reserve FB region > > An unlikely guess: I have had problems with a black screen when using a > television as a screen. However this does not sound like it. > > > Then I tried `nomodeset video=uvesafb` Linux parameters and the GUI > > now rendered. I don't know if these work as a global workaround for > > other machines, > > No, there have been reports that uvesafb does not work on every machine. > > > should they be documented in the installation > > instructions? > > Yes, if we can give proper instructions. Perhaps the attached patch? > > Regards, > Florian > > --0000000000001053040604361c84 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looks good to me. Thank you.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 13:52, = pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote:
Hello Iku-Tulo, thank you for the report.

Vilutar <i= kutulovilutar@gmail.com> writes:
> intelfb: Version 0.9.6
> intelfb: Cannot reserve FB region

An unlikely guess: I have had problems with a black screen when using a
television as a screen.=C2=A0 However this does not sound like it.

> Then I tried `nomodeset video=3Duvesafb` Linux parameters and the GUI<= br> > now rendered. I don't know if these work as a global workaround fo= r
> other machines,

No, there have been reports that uvesafb does not work on every machine.
> should they be documented in the installation
> instructions?

Yes, if we can give proper instructions.=C2=A0 Perhaps the attached patch?<= br>
Regards,
Florian

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Fixes . * doc/guix.texi (System Installation): Add suggestion when booting the installer fails with a black screen. --- Improved wording: * added "after waiting for two minutes" Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ [194.59.206.189 listed in bl.score.senderscore.com] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65572 Cc: Florian Pelz X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) With suggestions by Iku-Tulo Vilutar . Fixes . * doc/guix.texi (System Installation): Add suggestion when booting the installer fails with a black screen. --- Improved wording: * added "after waiting for two minutes" doc/guix.texi | 10 ++++++++++ 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index 04e5875925..fba9df1cce 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -2402,6 +2402,16 @@ BIOS or UEFI boot menu, where you can choose to boot from the USB stick. In order to boot from Libreboot, switch to the command mode by pressing the @kbd{c} key and type @command{search_grub usb}. +Sadly, on some machines, the installation medium cannot be properly +booted and you only see a black screen after booting even after you +waited for two minutes. This may indicate that your machine cannot run +Guix System; perhaps you instead want to install Guix on a foreign +distro (@pxref{Binary Installation}). If you are adventurous, a +possible workaround is pressing the @kbd{e} key in the GRUB boot menu +and appending @option{nomodeset video=uvesafb} to the Linux bootline. +Sometimes the black screen issue can also be resolved by connecting a +different display. + @xref{Installing Guix in a VM}, if, instead, you would like to install Guix System in a virtual machine (VM). base-commit: b51e45d3aaa8a85d39a8a4c3d18e8b57254aeaf2 -- 2.41.0 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 31 16:56:56 2023 Received: (at 65572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Aug 2023 20:56:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qboim-0003be-NY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 16:56:56 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.61.103]:49361) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qboik-0003bU-4O for 65572@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 16:56:54 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-8403.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-8403.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RcD3v4DN5z7xKy; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 22:56:43 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1693515403; bh=CeosAIWnDyBaqZwBwx8mm+VxlkcCQFOIvnyxs1hQv58=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=KOG/ATpHPlUVi7+Fzb5GXvfEgrBDe393Lii4asovSAp7Tt1o11rRnbGlmYOt9qT5A FIQS12KjApZB4FVLFotgUZDFyDFAI3LyznE9pI/8hnUeayC2tsi4HzFl51ZSHqbjBb 5XbmXXvc1LsYqxTDlPjjKZsFt+2yBHl6k+yv+hwiPvDLCjRto2EtJ3P/t995yEXlDJ aOKjiCXqxgZXrEin1Djm/QXj6C3CbkDc4T0V+3MV07YUykobFdtxQ3GI/eMXd5Crix +dN0NlDic6+3dMrwdNmMuchfnEXdWWdy4dZNnj8UBPM7jd1Xk68NumeDEIccRhtj25 9k6WrgveTVa7w== Received: from policy02-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-8403.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RcD3v3rdtz7xKW; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 22:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy02-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RcD3v2JmTz8sZV; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 22:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10E9781ABF; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 22:56:42 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Iku-Tulo Vilutar Subject: Re: bug#65572: Black screen in installer References: <87a5u7cwlh.fsf@pelzflorian.de> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 22:56:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Iku-Tulo Vilutar's message of "Thu, 31 Aug 2023 14:11:34 +0300") Message-ID: <87wmxb0w3a.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 10E9781ABF X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: zUfoNAhZpEZoK3ql0htLUskxISzeI9D6BHYoArGZBq8XrQrW7VMtRaqJ X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65572 Cc: 65572@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Iku-Tulo, one more thing, could you confirm that `nomodeset` alone without video=uvesafb really is not enough? Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 01 02:34:47 2023 Received: (at 65572) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Sep 2023 06:34:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59741 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbxjy-0003sD-Tt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 02:34:47 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb33.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::b33]:52571) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbxjw-0003rz-V3 for 65572@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Sep 2023 02:34:45 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-xb33.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-d7d50ba994eso1282817276.1 for <65572@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 23:34:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1693550070; x=1694154870; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=HE2e/K9fQ6uvrDN/vc7NJaD6j8q/xWSTsGuEG2gEuVo=; b=gZRaji7l3Vrjva8sgUlhUgNbCgerkBz3WFbjY29K18YZ+KXmwPK4xwNlw/KkV+tBbT WmtBQ+Zmiz/A9BsKu+HAciLK5UbGHZ0ZHhgtS8TSROXdQxcjsbNuJKHRMzLWHSvcTXGD sTwm2/+ECf26mbx9ZSCxFBsHZgbuk11ScpaDhwcxIRshPTn5jl9GWMp4XBGkZ5Amh4c0 VjOjUBcN9j5XQlzGhZCkreI0P34RJ+MupGtrcVfsmHZFZqYZkKCdSBxAEKt1Dg0twzqm QCjRSg4LOoMsHxfqz0ycCoqR0McxrDAfji+K6bVQbUz/UR8iYFkLlFl28GsMVsEIK1o5 hIBQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1693550070; x=1694154870; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=HE2e/K9fQ6uvrDN/vc7NJaD6j8q/xWSTsGuEG2gEuVo=; b=jwtOK9Sg6Fc1dG+7wB47YOk/89+f9GO+6a+Lwp+uuPuItJ2+nkAe/mrSQuUrGDHWkv QDbk51dx+lrrwGWRwbZcVnfxCaxtAAiv5iz+vPu4N37xYazmiKZnZ2JkvdJ2J/AmLXEv antZdbtPTpC1QJ3kYAhBOa3MYLq3EddjK8qKd//86EgzClxZ0FJCEI9o/nfh0IDl3Syn Uhkwmr5rEdVoLNxN41yD0r1icuWPlAWofjGgp5EVf9EL/YmfjxHIHnY8/AX+MyWYTSiU 9uxnjew2PBBuzP92Mg68IojqziXZVXsEbdqnT3f87dALbjXcvKUApjoNSbgFLhlIVVCP yOdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxF+KGf6hQF2aFk/Tj0aEeLBBhA43PQTGHP//DrhpVwXgKdZ0DN aTTd1MPd4yY16Qmcf4ru6kPoaykQ8yKtnTdPSVekfu5OBLI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEr5dWqOxewB1q4bsg96mZ+YdGIS7nqV6tv0VW7ryegEXjaUZmvKii2Y0N1KARvlKWPfYvLkUOBwbNWHNBb694= X-Received: by 2002:a25:7691:0:b0:d6b:8ea4:b8a1 with SMTP id r139-20020a257691000000b00d6b8ea4b8a1mr2027283ybc.12.1693550070263; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 23:34:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87a5u7cwlh.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <87wmxb0w3a.fsf@pelzflorian.de> In-Reply-To: <87wmxb0w3a.fsf@pelzflorian.de> From: Iku-Tulo Vilutar Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 09:34:18 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#65572: Black screen in installer To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000058f26b0604465a2e" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65572 Cc: 65572@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000058f26b0604465a2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Actually, just `nomodeset` seems to work. Sometimes booting to GUI can take up to 10 minutes, so it might be I gave up just trying `nomodeset` previously and added `video=uvesafb` and re-tried. On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 23:56, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) < pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote: > Hi Iku-Tulo, one more thing, could you confirm that `nomodeset` alone > without video=uvesafb really is not enough? > > Regards, > Florian > --00000000000058f26b0604465a2e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Actually, just `nomodeset` seems to work. Sometimes b= ooting to GUI can take up to 10 minutes, so it might be I gave up just tryi= ng `nomodeset` previously and added `video=3Duvesafb` and re-tried.
On Thu, = 31 Aug 2023 at 23:56, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> wrote:
=
Hi Iku-Tulo, one more thi= ng, could you confirm that `nomodeset` alone
without video=3Duvesafb really is not enough?

Regards,
Florian
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 11:07:19 +0200 Message-ID: <20230901090856.2468-1-pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.41.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E60A2819F8 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: aFkThsuYnQ5frYnlWAcLLRkQiKI9BaZXFQDGobscatTybu/JcLiqCgV7 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65572 Cc: ikutulovilutar@gmail.com, Florian Pelz X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) With suggestions by Iku-Tulo Vilutar . Fixes . * doc/guix.texi (System Installation): Add suggestion when booting the installer fails with a black screen. --- changes: - tell users to wait 10 minutes, not 2 - don't suggest video=uvesafb which is without effect - more positive wording (don't give up just yet) doc/guix.texi | 10 ++++++++++ 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+) diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi index 04e5875925..464060f42c 100644 --- a/doc/guix.texi +++ b/doc/guix.texi @@ -2402,6 +2402,16 @@ BIOS or UEFI boot menu, where you can choose to boot from the USB stick. In order to boot from Libreboot, switch to the command mode by pressing the @kbd{c} key and type @command{search_grub usb}. +Sadly, on some machines, the installation medium cannot be properly +booted and you only see a black screen after booting even after you +waited for ten minutes. This may indicate that your machine cannot run +Guix System; perhaps you instead want to install Guix on a foreign +distro (@pxref{Binary Installation}). 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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:28:49 +0200 In-reply-to: <20230901090856.2468-1-pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> Message-ID: <87pm32cbww.fsf@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.129; envelope-from=raingloom@riseup.net; helo=mx1.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 65572@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-guix@gnu.org, ikutulovilutar@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Florian Pelz writes: > With suggestions by Iku-Tulo Vilutar . > Fixes . > > * doc/guix.texi (System Installation): Add suggestion when > booting the installer fails with a black screen. > --- > changes: > - tell users to wait 10 minutes, not 2 > - don't suggest video=uvesafb which is without effect > - more positive wording (don't give up just yet) > > doc/guix.texi | 10 ++++++++++ > 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+) > There was a thread about having a dedicated "safe video" option in the GRUB menu, like a lot of distros do. I still think we should do that as well, because having to edit the kernel boot arguments is much more difficult, and because the user wouldn't have to go consult the manual to know that there is such an option, it would be right in front of them. But of course documenting the workaround like this is the next best thing. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 02 08:43:46 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2023 12:43:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35414 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPyc-0006Dv-Fu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:43:46 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:50810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPyZ-0006De-Lp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:43:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPyK-0006Y5-AK for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:43:28 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.102]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPyD-00054W-Hp for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:43:27 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-2502.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-2502.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RdF1c4GFyz5ysb; Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:43:16 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1693658596; bh=sa8KLbGXEeYkWWjlXRRfrVhM7vIwgRxZmOrgDm1kR+k=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=MsS7gHilzRDPNyFRaf4vctjiI9uJCRrCrgxyQWIAuz3ZQHQVmP+1hzzW7lUOJx8Pu 5pzTpUktzf3wXrMoY+Zr4vWUk3v4VHhcfsHbWa1M0RfKsv0f+FOQfquGHPf7pgj92o fbm7ZgPtG1hXe236l5RFSmu/Uw3Dnukekx+8K6scfAzoOnbUAQ+zmSBbiz2lbFpvl8 ihe3WpKSXQQbdMGkOD0DSOW2Xyj8zXEfGG5xFocx3bs4sAAlYC2tfVp4tfSOE+f5Yr uaRgk1rCfsj/BThRs7RpB0GJhJEuGE51V0xyDp1CcssGHn0br5hhlI0jfuogsLcJYH 4fKSf9s0KxR6A== Received: from policy02-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-2502.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RdF1c3YLzz4xJF; Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:43:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy02-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RdF1b62P8z8sWf; Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:43:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B01C8140E; Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:43:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: 65572-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#65572: [PATCH v3] doc: Describe black screen issue when booting the installer. References: <20230901090856.2468-1-pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> <87pm32cbww.fsf@riseup.net> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:43:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pm32cbww.fsf@riseup.net> (Csepp's message of "Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:28:49 +0200") Message-ID: <87y1hon3tw.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7B01C8140E X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: zt8rc6fbNpEORzHfxZQyQVzbSjv4TIEakhLebdrW9r4c2U5r+8To5/nn Received-SPF: pass client-ip=188.68.63.102; envelope-from=pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de; helo=relay.yourmailgateway.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, Csepp , ikutulovilutar@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) Pushed as 2890114a708e3a54a14ceb762f0726b013ffdc85. Csepp writes: > There was a thread about having a dedicated "safe video" option in the > GRUB menu, like a lot of distros do. I still think we should do that Yes, I agree. It would need a way to make a custom GRUB menu entry that refers to a Guix System generation, and adding that feature is complicated because it best worked for other non-GRUB bootloaders too. If it were added, =E2=80=9Csafe video=E2=80=9D could be described in the sa= me place. Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 02 09:17:51 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2023 13:17:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35455 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcQVb-00079h-G2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 09:17:51 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:37508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qcQVZ-00079S-VY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 09:17:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcQVH-0001ov-Qm for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 09:17:31 -0400 Received: from mx0.riseup.net ([198.252.153.6]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcQVD-000874-TZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 09:17:31 -0400 Received: from fews02-sea.riseup.net (fews02-sea-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.112]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mx0.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RdFn22fP2z9sq8; Sat, 2 Sep 2023 13:17:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=riseup.net; s=squak; t=1693660646; bh=QNFJMmQelCVDZGgeUawPL8YwiI7LBsXq9KnSCo8TYAI=; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-reply-to:From; b=FlmFppzEnEoyaFOCToJINhUw+CL5RhoxxRRUL7BXXVJwzSAeiNXHIS9iceZMgI6lZ eSMtwQelATd3YB++/KacSc83c/U3lVkS5ayLfkOWGD3DfIgpGYWrb7qQ1HjzVxbtt7 lZ4IR96RjG2dVgkoETYBOMQu8WyDgwp5Y7FaZNPw= X-Riseup-User-ID: 5CD7C27E75DD60CA97202C8841C5672DB96AF7DA35E1B2BF548AE06BB9072F6C Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews02-sea.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4RdFn14JyfzFs1G; Sat, 2 Sep 2023 13:17:25 +0000 (UTC) References: <20230901090856.2468-1-pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> <87pm32cbww.fsf@riseup.net> <87y1hon3tw.fsf@pelzflorian.de> From: Csepp To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Subject: Re: bug#65572: [PATCH v3] doc: Describe black screen issue when booting the installer. Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2023 15:13:15 +0200 In-reply-to: <87y1hon3tw.fsf@pelzflorian.de> Message-ID: <877cp8vhni.fsf@riseup.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.252.153.6; envelope-from=raingloom@riseup.net; helo=mx0.riseup.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 65572-done@debbugs.gnu.org, bug-guix@gnu.org, Csepp , ikutulovilutar@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" writes: > Pushed as 2890114a708e3a54a14ceb762f0726b013ffdc85. > > Csepp writes: >> There was a thread about having a dedicated "safe video" option in the >> GRUB menu, like a lot of distros do. I still think we should do that > > Yes, I agree. It would need a way to make a custom GRUB menu entry that > refers to a Guix System generation, and adding that feature is > complicated because it best worked for other non-GRUB bootloaders too. > If it were added, =E2=80=9Csafe video=E2=80=9D could be described in the = same place. > > Regards, > Florian I think we should just handle a (nested?) (a-)list of operating-system objects. It would be useful for a lot of other use cases too. I for one would like to have the option to boot my Thinkpad with libre software by default but have the ability to use drivers from The Forbidden Channel when I bring it to campus and need wifi. Or to be able to choose a noPAE kernel on old machines. Or have both an LTS kernel and the latest release, and maybe even a nightly build for testing. 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