From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6553: M-x grep should encourage the user to remember to add filenames to the command line Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 6553 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 6553@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.127807356216544 (code B ref -1); Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:27:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2010 12:26:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUfJi-0004In-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:26:02 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUfJg-0004Ib-Db for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:26:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:57082) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OUfJb-00038K-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:25:55 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60003 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUfJZ-0004e0-JU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:25:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUfJY-00053C-Ao for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:25:53 -0400 Received: from mailbigip.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.5]:39758 helo=homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUfJY-00052y-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:25:52 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D23470406E for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:25:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=jidanni.org ; b=ecS8Bygq7qZhPenDQKITc/rE4JQsMmb+FvM0nHN1DrkT46ksVfDO0upL7qu8 tDKvZfE4WknxlNFJSrFhIbNrL66rlpWbvKJ98u23yDoeWZ5Us3L2KdATVk/slppQ 52Lh5FISF5bAUxftM6ZHyv3yArLeTOm/zgtawe+5E6ogRNk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=M4nhS1e+ejcPx6Y6zzuWZGQJ094=; b=h5zfFTaYRwEZmsQl 7WeM8OZSHYvosgvEr/kRURmmBffuSifRIZdgZfkF8HcDPPtnXN5dFeK1DXJXoVi4 qS+a0c6Cv5/kM2CmwYGgrsfTyiLbRFiNnaT0LBXkEHQMFjemAj/sl6hgB2f+zA8u ijpWbZvNKWwhrp1aPc+RIe9fbY0= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-5-211.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.5.211]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a5.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E53B770406A for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:26:54 +0800 Message-ID: <87eifm6s5d.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) M-x grep, instead of prompting like: Run grep (like this): zgrep -nH -e should prompt like: Run grep (like this): zgrep -nH -e * with the cursor placed ^here. That way the user won't need to remember to add the *, which he usually wants, but always forgets, as I recall I mentioned a few years back. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6553: M-x grep should encourage the user to remember to add filenames to the command line Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6553 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: 6553@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6553-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6553.127809551328428 (code B ref 6553); Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 6553) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2010 18:31:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUl1l-0007OT-HA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:31:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUl1j-0007OO-Oz for 6553@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:31:52 -0400 Received: from dann by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUl1e-0003sP-Ri; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:31:46 -0400 References: <87eifm6s5d.fsf@jidanni.org> From: Dan Nicolaescu Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:31:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87eifm6s5d.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Fri\, 02 Jul 2010 19\:26\:54 +0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > M-x grep, instead of prompting like: > Run grep (like this): zgrep -nH -e > should prompt like: > Run grep (like this): zgrep -nH -e * > with the cursor placed ^here. > That way the user won't need to remember to add the *, which he usually > wants, but always forgets, as I recall I mentioned a few years back. IMHO we should just encourage users to use lgrep/rgrep/rzgrep, the UI is much better. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6553: M-x grep should encourage the user to remember to add filenames to the command line In-Reply-To: <87eifm6s5d.fsf@jidanni.org> Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6553 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: dann@gnu.org Cc: 6553@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6553-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6553.12781175207386 (code B ref 6553); Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 6553) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2010 00:38:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUqki-0001v5-D4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:38:40 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcbhh.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.177] helo=homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUqkf-0001uz-Vd for 6553@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:38:38 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860ED280063; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:38:33 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=THO1VFr5G4TrQV58WDZt+sBQejNXyuOHlwIaJ1j8C9ghQKJ23 mhP+Y2i50datEp6fD8mX7r5fE2c6rbMQqT4Fn9wY2i5SMXkp8yUBWj/aPwZBv/Nl 4HumltO1FnhnS/dA7RMjWkbmidipkTt9VdrCq2Nm9ecleS5WLO0KCLu5eo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=19ofqF1M53PLGbEyGdVFbQ1GyiQ=; b=IL6gXttbr/mrD qbJ7QB8SLBS1xjAgsiumivBGpEMGLFt6GGijYTLBNbzWQq56fCcc+adhQHaKwuUu BH59XETV7mtKuk0+BZ3PO8EkP8oK4M92kB+1KDGcdcS/zWlOFZsKzY1pl2zk0WgG /wcjkZhk3HwMfaRtyjfhDW4kLkQ1pU= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-3-109.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.3.109]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a2.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C6F1280062; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:38:33 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org References: Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:38:30 +0800 Message-ID: <87y6dtbdrt.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) >>>>> "DN" == Dan Nicolaescu writes: DN> IMHO we should just encourage users to use lgrep/rgrep/rzgrep, the UI is much better. Well your thoughts won't reach most M-x grep users, unless you "reach them where it hurts" somehow. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:17:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6553: M-x grep should encourage the user to remember to add filenames to the command line Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6553 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: jidanni@jidanni.org Cc: dann@gnu.org, 6553@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 6553-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6553.12781194898135 (code B ref 6553); Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 6553) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2010 01:11:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUrGS-00027A-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:11:28 -0400 Received: from mail-ew0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUrGR-000274-Jq for 6553@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:11:28 -0400 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so1157373ewy.3 for <6553@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Lb5Y3OSQebxZ05yPKDJ1odnJb88quJqflM8YAckUwmU=; b=OaQmrWZC8WZkb/vUM55x2yqlqHgsJKXvMsPkCr1MImCphgvj7KQUBvy9SMfG5IcltE KzIP5O2rer0wimNLtNezmfMHX53mMWBac72vYVghAaVk8W0HIdpcUdo5ehNhKxGXoth4 zldEoXGYtLIUl4sr0TN0Y/PSMpRMFkOfUgf6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=PROPQXw+hd+3XRcEgb1WCGUPKZv6YMVN03eEsV23E0w0fTNSUnHbkbjHiR0UBNYf+w gJ9/PU7vUBvUE5mtbSPNvqS979BOYJNY8nUxF6rlU99y9krCh59eB9DxI4nyeFBS8lJn Irdgd+2c9tIUEmeEYTVjfVQR/0Nmgdw9wEhpg= Received: by 10.213.19.6 with SMTP id y6mr1306384eba.64.1278119483204; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:11:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.15.132 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:11:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y6dtbdrt.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87eifm6s5d.fsf@jidanni.org> <87y6dtbdrt.fsf@jidanni.org> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 03:11:03 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 2:38 AM, wrote: >>>>>> "DN" == Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > DN> IMHO we should just encourage users to use lgrep/rgrep/rzgrep, the UI is much better. > > Well your thoughts won't reach most M-x grep users, unless you "reach > them where it hurts" somehow. Which reminds me of that lgrep and rgrep are still not in the menus. 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