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No such function: nnfolder-server-opened The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can find. In case it matters, I had a Gnus autosave file. After M-x gnus, I answered 'n' to the question if the autosave file should be used. After that, the error is signaled. 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[217.227.99.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b15-20020aa7c6cf000000b005256aaa6e7asm7125343eds.78.2023.08.22.00.29.40 for <65447@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: 65447@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llman?= =?utf-8?Q?n=22's?= message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:18:14 +0200") References: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:29:39 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > I get the following error when starting Gnus with M-x gnus. > > No such function: nnfolder-server-opened > > The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can > find. In case it matters, I had a Gnus autosave file. After M-x gnus, > I answered 'n' to the question if the autosave file should be used. > After that, the error is signaled. Once nnfolder is loaded, nnfolder-server-opened is defined as a function. It is defined by the macro (nnoo-define-basics nnfolder) in nnfolder.el. I can work around this by manually requiring nnfolder in init.el. Alas, I don't know much about Gnus internals to determine what the right fix would be. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 22 03:37:13 2023 Received: (at 65447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2023 07:37:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYLwv-0000ir-9s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 03:37:13 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.suse.de ([195.135.220.28]:44908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYLwt-0000ie-IH for 65447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 03:37:12 -0400 Received: from relay2.suse.de (relay2.suse.de [149.44.160.134]) by smtp-out1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EEC22C2B; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:37:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_rsa; t=1692689823; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=vgG8r9JKElssiSu618Eg1cqR6aYmEGaM6xM3p/7Xmjo=; b=nfTemsAgm6m2mH0lB4lAH+goWzu3P27yGkVgCEYzQLJN51nooOdrUfWbqpYe3Ip7ICBv+A K0ceCDgClcHa1fPRCyuaFY5As5y5N6jeHdN9pQ6qNf7tCHsOGICz3FW5LlZNOZHDG0heSZ sRk0EUhFH98m6TC/e1DSxgI+oAYasKA= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.de; s=susede2_ed25519; t=1692689823; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=vgG8r9JKElssiSu618Eg1cqR6aYmEGaM6xM3p/7Xmjo=; b=VbINyQwkIl5RIpsmBsM7/F/PWNLGWg2GPOOJoeruOp81kf7SpCERNj1e8EZxoeJyZbDr/4 9lyM6MrOZv8XeICg== Received: from hawking.nue2.suse.org (unknown [10.168.4.11]) by relay2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD952C143; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by hawking.nue2.suse.org (Postfix, from userid 17005) id F26714AB2B6; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:37:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llman?= =?utf-8?Q?n=22's?= message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:18:14 +0200") References: X-Yow: Yow! Am I JOGGING yet?? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:37:02 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Aug 22 2023, Gerd Möllmann wrote: > I get the following error when starting Gnus with M-x gnus. > > No such function: nnfolder-server-opened > > The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can > find. It should be defined by (nnoo-define-basics nnfolder). -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." 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[217.227.99.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j15-20020a170906430f00b0099bc8bd9066sm7748212ejm.150.2023.08.22.00.54.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 22 Aug 2023 00:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:37:02 +0200") References: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:54:16 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: > It should be defined by (nnoo-define-basics nnfolder). Right, I found that in the meantime. The function is indeed defined once nnfolder is loaded. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 22 07:20:50 2023 Received: (at 65447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2023 11:20:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58649 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYPRJ-0001G1-WC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:20:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYPRG-0001FZ-Bx for 65447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:20:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYPQv-0008TQ-Ag; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:20:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=oaaFOaZHFzVfsyz6R+NBqHuPll3FPJZmyIocy3aeWRk=; b=Rf5Uy/GJ77VVF/nlIo1J VEQ045tOTMnx5dekocRgjiDZ+OrPd+gfmhGeKL3WdXRzGFOIiqfukhEA4aNqFmWhgnr1udMqLbeG4 x9ju0lj951TJjp3+hdCz4iqzV4zxn8w6oRvhjtvLlEWWVyGepkbanBOtbJYhDSyZPtSaqlDUgldr+ Z2NXO5CI/cAgeNFCwyc92Y+59MrzTkbOYI70DcfLgtUmH3yVm1a6q1saOgZYwLvV8lD+zZj7iuISH Cg6olbLF8gL/79SVsufO1jo2kn2Iic3CRfIzd8ymdZBfSO7wkVlsccbJ05h7VV7Hu34CitsgeNWuy 9djUAlLdUoLgeQ==; Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 14:20:44 +0300 Message-Id: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= , Andrew G Cohen , Eric Abrahamsen In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= on Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:29:39 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gerd Möllmann > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:29:39 +0200 > > Gerd Möllmann writes: > > > I get the following error when starting Gnus with M-x gnus. > > > > No such function: nnfolder-server-opened > > > > The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can > > find. In case it matters, I had a Gnus autosave file. After M-x gnus, > > I answered 'n' to the question if the autosave file should be used. > > After that, the error is signaled. > > Once nnfolder is loaded, nnfolder-server-opened is defined as a > function. It is defined by the macro > > (nnoo-define-basics nnfolder) > > in nnfolder.el. > > I can work around this by manually requiring nnfolder in init.el. Alas, > I don't know much about Gnus internals to determine what the right fix > would be. Andrew and Eric, can you please help Gerd with this issue? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 22 12:25:47 2023 Received: (at 65447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2023 16:25:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60266 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYUCR-0004Do-6Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:25:47 -0400 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55400) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYUCO-0004DX-7G for 65447@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 12:25:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 75441FA0BA; Tue, 22 Aug 2023 16:25:34 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1692721534; bh=8HBQwuPim95KpBNZNQo7Drh9G9qJx/q+3yXqqsgPYQQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=LxDbHFYv7ykiJKn+VSgLOa8f9fLYKho8IJmnhRGSCoEnQ59ptYtDV0fgwpjw0X1if Yj4p6lZFS1pZFQ8NReouH4RZ8oW5cZ1MIw7SsGsjwf5Ha7cuSmO+gSAUItS95zqFxt gneU4bvBqvtJZ3apXDlQ7zfEY1odslB5zAU/Jkp4= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 14:20:44 +0300") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:25:32 -0700 Message-ID: <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= , Andrew G Cohen , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:29:39 +0200 >>=20 >> Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: >>=20 >> > I get the following error when starting Gnus with M-x gnus. >> > >> > No such function: nnfolder-server-opened >> > >> > The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can >> > find. In case it matters, I had a Gnus autosave file. After M-x gnus, >> > I answered 'n' to the question if the autosave file should be used. >> > After that, the error is signaled. This is almost certainly the source of the problem. Your .newsrc.eld file should have entries for groups looking like: ("nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-02" 3 ((1 . 1)) ((unexist) (seen 1)) (nnfolder "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/.mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/.mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) Long story short, at Gnus startup time the `nnfolder' symbol at the head of the method list will get turned into a `require' call for the appropriate library, so the nnfolder functions should be available early on. I'm not sure exactly how you got there, but it sounds like there are references to your nnfolder group(s) somewhere in Gnus, but the groups are not listed in your .newsrc.eld, so the library is never loaded. What nnfolder groups show up in your Group buffer (hitting "L" first). Are those groups present in your .newsrc.eld file? 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[217.227.99.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t24-20020a7bc3d8000000b003fe195cecb3sm14137092wmj.38.2023.08.22.10.13.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 22 Aug 2023 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:25:32 -0700") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 19:13:53 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >>> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:29:39 +0200 >>>=20 >>> Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: >>>=20 >>> > I get the following error when starting Gnus with M-x gnus. >>> > >>> > No such function: nnfolder-server-opened >>> > >>> > The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can >>> > find. In case it matters, I had a Gnus autosave file. After M-x gnu= s, >>> > I answered 'n' to the question if the autosave file should be used. >>> > After that, the error is signaled. > > This is almost certainly the source of the problem. Your .newsrc.eld > file should have entries for groups looking like: > > ("nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-02" 3 ((1 . 1)) ((unexist) (seen 1)) > (nnfolder > "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/.mail/archive") > (nnfolder-active-file "~/.mail/archive/active") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) > (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) > > Long story short, at Gnus startup time the `nnfolder' symbol at the head > of the method list will get turned into a `require' call for the > appropriate library, so the nnfolder functions should be available early > on. My .newsrc.eld contains, among other stuff (setq gnus-server-alist '(("archive" nnfolder "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))) (setq gnus-topic-topology '(("Gnus" visible) (("misc" visible)))) (setq gnus-topic-alist '(("misc" "INBOX" "Emacs" "[Google Mail]/Entw\303\274rfe" "[Google Mail]/Markiert" "nndraft:drafts" "[Google Mail]/Alle Nachrichten" "[Google Mail]/Gesendet" "[Google Mail]/Papierkorb" "[Google Mail]/Spam" "[Google Mail]/Wichtig" "Notes" "[Gmail]/Drafts" "Emacs/Emacs" "nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-06") ("Gnus"))) Above these, there's also a (setq gnus-newsrc-alist '(...)) with a large list containomg references to nnfolder, e.g. (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t), but since that list is quoted... > I'm not sure exactly how you got there, but it sounds like there are > references to your nnfolder group(s) somewhere in Gnus, but the groups > are not listed in your .newsrc.eld, so the library is never loaded. > > What nnfolder groups show up in your Group buffer (hitting "L" first). > Are those groups present in your .newsrc.eld file? and the summary shows 0: Emacs 0: Emacs/Emacs 0: INBOX 0: Notes 0: [Gmail]/Drafts * 0: [Google Mail]/Alle Nachrichten 0: [Google Mail]/Entw=C3=BCrfe * 0: [Google Mail]/Gesendet * 0: [Google Mail]/Markiert *U 0: [Google Mail]/Papierkorb U 72: [Google Mail]/Spam 5: [Google Mail]/Wichtig 13: nndraft:drafts 2: nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-06 24: nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-07 31: nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-08 71: nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-09 57: nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-10 15: nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-11 7: nnfolder+archive:sent.2023-08 Which I think is what gnus-topic-alist has, except for the archives. Here is what my .gnus looks like. I think I copied it from somewhere on the Internet. (setq mml-secure-openpgp-signers '("xxx") ;; We want to be able to read the emails we wrote. mml-secure-openpgp-encrypt-to-self t) (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "gmail" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com") (nnimap-server-port "imaps") (nnimap-stream ssl))) (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp.gmail.com" smtpmail-smtp-service 587) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 23 00:18:24 2023 Received: (at 65447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2023 04:18:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYfK4-0005hU-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 00:18:24 -0400 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:34594) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYfK1-0005hD-19 for 65447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 00:18:22 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4789DFA0B2; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 04:18:10 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1692764291; bh=pk8cZMfa20xQHRX8epL5HCsbH20NUmBvk2PcMCnRJSk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=mxXO5YUiuzCSBZNIktS02Fv1ZrzPvvGsrDkVwfeaiBeV+qbYirQEgDU5SeRIiUbuR xTAhwD5DNmmwk/aKGiRvvXCFbVUPP2tcL8UmrGaSg8V9hQkHTvj23W17+D86vYJ0+S o/5xiqWaTEpbNN55c1Tb0H9tW89GzorAtG3qURA4= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llman?= =?utf-8?Q?n=22's?= message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 19:13:53 +0200") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 21:18:08 -0700 Message-ID: <87wmxmgznj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>>> From: Gerd M=C3=B6llmann >>>> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 09:29:39 +0200 >>>>=20 >>>> Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: >>>>=20 >>>> > I get the following error when starting Gnus with M-x gnus. >>>> > >>>> > No such function: nnfolder-server-opened >>>> > >>>> > The function nnfolder-server-opened is indeed defined nowhere I can >>>> > find. In case it matters, I had a Gnus autosave file. After M-x gn= us, >>>> > I answered 'n' to the question if the autosave file should be used. >>>> > After that, the error is signaled. >> >> This is almost certainly the source of the problem. Your .newsrc.eld >> file should have entries for groups looking like: >> >> ("nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-02" 3 ((1 . 1)) ((unexist) (seen 1)) >> (nnfolder >> "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/.mail/archive") >> (nnfolder-active-file "~/.mail/archive/active") >> (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) >> (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) >> >> Long story short, at Gnus startup time the `nnfolder' symbol at the head >> of the method list will get turned into a `require' call for the >> appropriate library, so the nnfolder functions should be available early >> on. > > My .newsrc.eld contains, among other stuff > > (setq gnus-server-alist > '(("archive" nnfolder "archive" > (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") > (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) > (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)))) > > (setq gnus-topic-topology '(("Gnus" visible) (("misc" visible)))) > > (setq gnus-topic-alist > '(("misc" > "INBOX" > "Emacs" > "[Google Mail]/Entw\303\274rfe" > "[Google Mail]/Markiert" > "nndraft:drafts" > "[Google Mail]/Alle Nachrichten" > "[Google Mail]/Gesendet" > "[Google Mail]/Papierkorb" > "[Google Mail]/Spam" > "[Google Mail]/Wichtig" > "Notes" "[Gmail]/Drafts" > "Emacs/Emacs" > "nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-06") > ("Gnus"))) > > Above these, there's also a (setq gnus-newsrc-alist '(...)) with a large > list containomg references to nnfolder, e.g. (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry > t), but since that list is quoted... Yes, it's `gnus-newsrc-alist' that will contain group definitions, including seven (it looks like) for your archive groups, each one with an identical method definition looking like: (nnfolder "archive" (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) I know the file is a bit eye-watering to look at, but try to confirm that you have seven archive groups in there, and each one ends with the form above. It's pretty weird that you're seeing this with your archive server, because that one gets special treatment. Take a close look at the file first, and maybe we can try something else. 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[84.176.199.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u25-20020a1709063b9900b0098e422d6758sm9196851ejf.219.2023.08.22.22.18.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 22 Aug 2023 22:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: <87wmxmgznj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2023 21:18:08 -0700") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmxmgznj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:18:08 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Yes, it's `gnus-newsrc-alist' that will contain group definitions, Ah, ok. Sorry, I didn't know that. > including seven (it looks like) for your archive groups, each one with > an identical method definition looking like: > > (nnfolder "archive" > (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") > (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) > (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > > I know the file is a bit eye-watering to look at, but try to confirm > that you have seven archive groups in there, and each one ends with the > form above. No problem. When I 'pp' the list, I see these 7: (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-06\" 3 nil ((unexist) (seen (1 . 2))) (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-07\" 3 nil nil (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) nil) (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-08\" 3 nil nil (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) nil) (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-09\" 3 nil nil (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) nil) (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-10\" 3 nil nil (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) nil) (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-11\" 3 nil nil (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) nil) (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2023-08\" 3 nil nil (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) nil)) > It's pretty weird that you're seeing this with your archive server, I am weird :-). > because that one gets special treatment. Take a close look at the file > first, and maybe we can try something else. I can also try to catch that in the debugger, if it helps. Since setting debug-on-error seems not to help, can I perhaps set a breakpoint somewhere in Gnus? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 23 13:02:04 2023 Received: (at 65447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2023 17:02:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYrF6-0001YO-2f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 13:02:04 -0400 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:44886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYrF3-0001Xt-69 for 65447@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 13:02:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B115AFA07E; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:01:51 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1692810112; bh=d0owORgqfxi3AhcD5cVX3oG8kgKyFss+yNzwFPl/xu4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=rXCXa1kqKYRmxWTCFfjcE3CrdIUyS6QHQ5qOlcuIHz62OybzJteW1kF6RF8KmIaAV 3zeExGw4VzN/lha8danA3ZcqK7Xt+DELq1ie3n8FPrsu++YJauTo2x74qeCQ5iQWHL GPBm09ZA3fJ2YoGhBl1MurMDEKUzh3xbu71U2iak= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llman?= =?utf-8?Q?n=22's?= message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:18:08 +0200") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmxmgznj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 10:01:49 -0700 Message-ID: <87h6ophev6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 08/23/23 07:18 AM, Gerd M=C3=B6llmann wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Yes, it's `gnus-newsrc-alist' that will contain group definitions, > > Ah, ok. Sorry, I didn't know that. No problem :) >> including seven (it looks like) for your archive groups, each one with >> an identical method definition looking like: >> >> (nnfolder "archive" >> (nnfolder-directory "~/Mail/archive") >> (nnfolder-active-file "~/Mail/archive/active") >> (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) >> (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) >> >> I know the file is a bit eye-watering to look at, but try to confirm >> that you have seven archive groups in there, and each one ends with the >> form above. > > No problem. When I 'pp' the list, I see these 7: > > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-06\" 3 nil ((unexist) (seen (1 . 2))) > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t))) > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-07\" 3 nil nil > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > nil) > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-08\" 3 nil nil > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > nil) > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-09\" 3 nil nil > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > nil) > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-10\" 3 nil nil > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > nil) > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2022-11\" 3 nil nil > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > nil) > (\"nnfolder+archive:sent.2023-08\" 3 nil nil > (nnfolder \"archive\" (nnfolder-directory \"~/Mail/archive\") > (nnfolder-active-file \"~/Mail/archive/active\") > (nnfolder-get-new-mail nil) (nnfolder-inhibit-expiry t)) > nil)) > >> It's pretty weird that you're seeing this with your archive server, > > I am weird :-). > >> because that one gets special treatment. Take a close look at the file >> first, and maybe we can try something else. > > I can also try to catch that in the debugger, if it helps. Since > setting debug-on-error seems not to help, can I perhaps set a breakpoint > somewhere in Gnus? The error has to be coming out of `gnus-get-function', in gnus-int.el. Right above the spot where the error is signaled, we have a: (require (car method)) In your case, (car method) is supposed to be the symbol 'nnfolder. I can't imagine how the function name has been constructed as `nnfolder-server-opened', yet (car method) is something other than `nnfolder'. So the place to set a breakpoint would be at the bottom of `gnus-get-function', maybe you can put it behind a check for (eq func 'nnfolder-server-opened). Then we would want to know what the value of `method' is here, and also where in the startup sequence we are. Thanks! 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[79.227.168.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b8-20020a170906038800b009786c8249d6sm10805763eja.175.2023.08.24.01.56.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 24 Aug 2023 01:56:40 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: <87h6ophev6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2023 10:01:49 -0700") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmxmgznj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h6ophev6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:56:39 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > The error has to be coming out of `gnus-get-function', in gnus-int.el. > Right above the spot where the error is signaled, we have a: > > (require (car method)) > > In your case, (car method) is supposed to be the symbol 'nnfolder. I > can't imagine how the function name has been constructed as > `nnfolder-server-opened', yet (car method) is something other than > `nnfolder'. So the place to set a breakpoint would be at the bottom of > `gnus-get-function', maybe you can put it behind a check for > (eq func 'nnfolder-server-opened). > > Then we would want to know what the value of `method' is here, and also > where in the startup sequence we are. I have kind of bad news: My reproducer recipe does not work anymore, today. What I formerly did was start Gnus in one session until an #.newsrc.dribble# appeared. Then I started another Emacs session, and also started Gnus, got the autosave file warning, replied with 'n', and the error was signaled. Worked yesterday, no longer does. Any idea? 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[79.227.169.24]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v19-20020a170906339300b0099ba3438554sm3133783eja.191.2023.08.27.00.16.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 27 Aug 2023 00:16:47 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: bug#65447: 30.0.50; Gnus: No such function: nnfolder-server-opened In-Reply-To: ("Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llman?= =?utf-8?Q?n=22's?= message of "Thu, 24 Aug 2023 10:56:39 +0200") References: <83il97tjar.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyjhwn7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmxmgznj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h6ophev6.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2023 09:16:47 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65447 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 65447@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gerd M=C3=B6llmann writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> The error has to be coming out of `gnus-get-function', in gnus-int.el. >> Right above the spot where the error is signaled, we have a: >> >> (require (car method)) >> >> In your case, (car method) is supposed to be the symbol 'nnfolder. I >> can't imagine how the function name has been constructed as >> `nnfolder-server-opened', yet (car method) is something other than >> `nnfolder'. So the place to set a breakpoint would be at the bottom of >> `gnus-get-function', maybe you can put it behind a check for >> (eq func 'nnfolder-server-opened). >> >> Then we would want to know what the value of `method' is here, and also >> where in the startup sequence we are. > > I have kind of bad news: > > My reproducer recipe does not work anymore, today. What I formerly > did was start Gnus in one session until an #.newsrc.dribble# appeared. > Then I started another Emacs session, and also started Gnus, got the > autosave file warning, replied with 'n', and the error was signaled. > > Worked yesterday, no longer does. > > Any idea? I think I should close this because I'm unable to reproduce the problem. Maybe it's a MacOS problem. I've seen a number of such spurious problems in the last months on macOS, like freezes in some macOS code, buffers containing text that's not in the file they visit, font sizes changing spuriously while writing text, input being reversed while typing... Or it's me, I don'T know.=20 So, I'm closing this. Thanks for helping me! 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