Subject: Re: bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively

From: uzibalqa <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 08:40:12 +0000

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On Friday, August 18th, 2023 at 6:32 PM, Eli Zaretskii <[email-masked]> wrote:

> > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 05:56:04 +0000
> > From: Heime [email-masked]
> > Cc: [email-masked]
> > 
> > > The manual tells you what to do instead.
> > 
> > This used to be easy for beginners. Now it has became complicated.
> 
> 
> Using completing-read was never easy.
> 
> > Had hoped the plan for the future was to improve things for
> > beginners, now everything has started to get modified for use mostly
> > by experts.
> 
> 
> The Emacs development enhances the existing functionality, and that
> inevitably makes some situations more complex to handle. That is the
> price for added functionality, and no one has yet found a way of
> making software more flexible and powerful without also making it more
> complex.
> 
> > > > > Why do you need INITIAL?
> > > > 
> > > > I want the user to see a default without having him to get it with the bloody "M-n".
> > > 
> > > That's not how you show the default to the user. The way to show the
> > > default to the user is to include it in the prompt, like so:
> > > 
> > > Type your choice (default foo):
> > 
> > I do not want the user to type it, but for it to be displayed automatically.
> > And if theyy do not want the default, they can step to the next possibility
> > in COLLECTION.
> 
> 
> Then you will have to override the value of
> minibuffer-default-add-function with a function of your own.

You see how things have become even more complicated now.  How about 
providing the feature that there was ?