From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 13:43:12 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 17:43:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIMS-0002KH-BC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:43:12 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIMQ-0002K4-98 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:43:11 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:49905) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIML-0001Lm-T8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:43:05 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41986 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OTIMK-0002tD-FU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:43:05 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIMJ-0006En-86 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:43:04 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdccah.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.207]:56236 helo=homiemail-a14.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIMJ-0006ES-3M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:43:03 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a14.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a14.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811FD8C07E for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=jidanni.org ; b=ZipxUUK6gQjqUyPvzhMh4rDohnu0VoRmQ61TMGvx4vSw9A6taIffJCc1n9jI 2fj374TJ4QtOfMnQojgxIlUC403vN0d5jfjyv7OoE65erY/D/3CvJ1gfoaHIJ3kn WbkZJKHwEsay5ru4zmnvEp1vmxqhy4JNhwdPGFM9nHm4z7g= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=TlF1S4u1Fuuprpfy19nIaMLNoWM=; b=oAUekVp0qpfSBWz6 5/0cvWjKHtpb87YWnvqxSdL2q5SGMGJwBAamnKpTnvWpQ0dSIynUbWpv2daZz2Vn bhL8V5Ie6vMDycdVTlsfhE09W+QVr5FskXrM3DZKpgAx+4XtPangdDMtQCxYTojJ Vao5TzDhyBoC3BW0LrUEbDuHn50= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-4-191.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.4.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a14.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1CF338C07D for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:42:57 +0800 Message-ID: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) Is it a bug or a feature that when I copy some glowing blue characters to another buffer, they stay glowing blue, instead of adopting the drab colors of other text that was typed into that buffer? E.g., C-u C-x = shows this, even on text that was copied to a plain text-mode buffer: There are text properties here: balloon-help nil face (w3m-anchor w3m-italic w3m-bold) rear-nonsticky t w3m-anchor-sequence 23 w3m-balloon-help "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9xWuvRaQ6g" w3m-href-anchor "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9xWuvRaQ6g" w3m-name-anchor [Show] w3m-name-anchor2 ("tsf-oq" "logo" "gbe" "gbf" "gbn") w3m-safe-url-regexp nil Indeed, the only way I know to clean them up is C-x h C-u | c a t emacs-version "24.0.50.1" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 14:13:43 2010 Received: (at 6532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 18:13:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIpy-00038y-Vo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:13:43 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIpx-00038t-GH for 6532@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:13:41 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o5SIDZs3011084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:13:36 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5SHkHQu008612; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:13:34 GMT Received: from abhmt005.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 380080841277748811; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:13:31 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:13:31 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: , <6532@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: RE: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:13:31 -0700 Message-ID: <31FAE415E062415C83786D8CDFE71FB4@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcsW66pFvMfyH1xFRVG1EC9hrCTL5wAAct/g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 In-Reply-To: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4C28E64F.0088:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > Is it a bug or a feature A feature. And it's customizable (and bindable). See `yank-excluded-properties'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 14:18:34 2010 Received: (at 6532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 18:18:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIug-0003BY-AB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:18:34 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcahe.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.74] helo=homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTIue-0003BP-Af for 6532@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:18:33 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2B71D0062; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:18:27 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=cfw3gIHkLMbkSQba/+vQsVkRBnnCHhp+QnRxkKFZrQlt0WCE5 ZX904s9dUgK+od8Li4va9J6LiMR9XMZS4ffDAg+qTDTcViKa8j8JhNFUfFs+uxnL qT1e5cFjuPo4KtMie70QXaHRrGk0ye31XYuv9qI/Urg9AoUhV1OR3DfxME= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=Z/+3UBAJwga0T/vvyAjpoFdZVA8=; b=BMTQhZZLrJELi k3JnQaTBjOz5jnxs8QbxHOrFe/tdllQT9zj0JqEZJ34atP4lhBrgkz0+F6QG/EDZ cs0z4uv0IXM8dnf81bAE4F3YbyX+uBanwl0oqcu+wAn8StqZKEFPRLtJlD6T+xPo FSluvCHVIt9f+CyskzGLvaVxOl6V+Y= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-4-191.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.4.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a37.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BFFA1D0014; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: drew.adams@oracle.com Subject: Re: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers References: <31FAE415E062415C83786D8CDFE71FB4@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:18:24 +0800 Message-ID: <87vd93yqa7.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532 Cc: 6532@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) >>>>> "A" == Drew Adams writes: >> Is it a bug or a feature A> A feature. And it's customizable (and bindable). A> See `yank-excluded-properties'. OK, found it. Instead of the extra long list it comes with and is hard to maintain I bet, I wonder why it isn't 't' to begin with. OK, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 14:29:01 2010 Received: (at 6532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 18:29:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJ4m-0003GD-VE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:29:01 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-b12.telenor.se ([62.127.194.21]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJ4l-0003G8-3r for 6532@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:28:59 -0400 Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E39CAE0 for <6532@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:28:53 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai5CAEKHKExV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHb4sVjDEMAQEBATUtwHGFJAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,498,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="538876134" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2010 20:28:32 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD94C7FA05A; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:28:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C28E9CF.2060608@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:28:31 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: Re: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers References: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> In-Reply-To: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532 Cc: 6532@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) jidanni@jidanni.org skrev 2010-06-28 19.42: > Is it a bug or a feature that when I copy some glowing blue characters > to another buffer, they stay glowing blue, instead of adopting the drab > colors of other text that was typed into that buffer? > I think it is a feature, its been like that for a long time. Not that I like it, copying from ediff-colored text or *compilation* to a text file looks funny. C-x C-s, kill buffer and reopen the file is my workaround. > Indeed, the only way I know to clean them up is > C-x h C-u | c a t > An idea is to have some popup that appears if text properties differs between source and destination. It can ask if you want to adopt to source or destination. I don't know how tricky that would be. Jan D. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 14:34:50 2010 Received: (at 6532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 18:34:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJAQ-0003J4-7w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:34:50 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJAO-0003Iz-0n for 6532@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:34:48 -0400 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o5SIYffZ030727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:34:42 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5SIFLYY006133; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:34:40 GMT Received: from abhmt008.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 380132131277750062; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:34:22 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:34:22 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: References: <31FAE415E062415C83786D8CDFE71FB4@us.oracle.com> <87vd93yqa7.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: RE: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:34:23 -0700 Message-ID: <6AB3A822639246E3BA874327BAF3C6BF@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcsW7k7I1KLTTFYMQwqB3gMttIVOZQAASC+g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 In-Reply-To: <87vd93yqa7.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Source-IP: acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4C28EB41.005D:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532 Cc: 6532@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > >> Is it a bug or a feature > > A> A feature. And it's customizable (and bindable). > A> See `yank-excluded-properties'. > > OK, found it. Instead of the extra long list it comes with and is hard > to maintain I bet, I wonder why it isn't 't' to begin with. > OK, thanks. The default value of the option needs to be the most reasonable value for most uses by most people - or at least a reasonable value. ;-) The value chosen seems like a pretty good choice, to me. What matters most to me is that yanking does not exclude `face' but it does exclude `mouse-face'. Whether most people want to yank with faces by default is questionable, but that fits my use. FWIW - One thing that might be helpful (it is present in some other editors) would be an Edit menu item to paste without properties (or paste with some preferred set of properties whenever no-property yanking is the user's default behavior). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 14:40:49 2010 Received: (at 6532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 18:40:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJGC-0003Mx-SH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:40:49 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcagg.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.66] helo=homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJGA-0003Ms-O5 for 6532@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:40:47 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB8C10AFB1; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:40:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=jidanni.org; b=iUFfalfpqDbHS g8bQktbghNebuUpsNr3iQb7OdissLZHuuwp6tUH1EDWGqaWJmz+bLZoBGJbB7wFl 9uhPSIJKrGr/u1IDh92eV1Bf2PXxETIFQKirecMxe2WSR2EgIcQTJTlMEBL0gey5 mJL1JDwXmbDdgwsBcEJU/4mgTU8Mpk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=a0H+/F1lwobS5ZUTkwN Q1861EKQ=; b=WI9OYl35YXwfwjpqSL+PxB4EnNshlRQ/pvcIgNFayHkHxsRoOc4 4uE9fzVtCy4GF5n5YbYKCr40AItAWHOH51lTd7FiKdlHNUBMZsBV/LUhZD/EQrQE BFP8Vr40JvoLjAlTFmuF3X+8clGnnJ2qZCK7ZSMXutQH8+MbD5pe33iA= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-4-191.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.4.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2731010AFAA; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Subject: Re: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers References: <4C28E9CF.2060608@swipnet.se> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 02:40:38 +0800 Message-ID: <87r5jryp95.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.4 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532 Cc: 6532@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >>>>> "JD" =3D=3D Jan Dj=C3=A4rv writes: JD> An idea is to have some popup that appears if text properties differs JD> between source and destination. It can ask if you want to adopt to JD> source or destination. I don't know how tricky that would be. "Gee, all I wanted to do was copy text, now I'm getting popups". Anyway, perhaps when copying from one message-mode buffer to another message-mode buffer, keeping properties makes sense... but the rest of the time not. So I'm making the default 't' for me. Anyways, does copying back an forth from Firefox to emacs preserve properties? No. Did I ever feel bad about it? No. If emacs were WYSIWYG like Word=E2=84=A2 th= en maybe it would make sense, otherwise not. However I think I'll be stepping out of the conversation right about now... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 14:40:19 2010 Received: (at 6532-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 18:40:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJFj-0003Mj-Kw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:40:19 -0400 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTJFg-0003Md-33 for 6532-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:40:17 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L4Q00C00MFG8V00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 6532-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:39:56 +0300 (IDT) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.255.236]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L4Q009FHMIJT860@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:39:56 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:42:00 +0300 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers In-reply-to: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: jidanni@jidanni.org Message-id: <83tyonatjb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532-done Cc: 6532-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > From: jidanni@jidanni.org > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:42:57 +0800 > Cc: > > Is it a bug or a feature that when I copy some glowing blue characters > to another buffer, they stay glowing blue, instead of adopting the drab > colors of other text that was typed into that buffer? Feature. If you don't like it, set yank-excluded-properties to t. Or type "M-o M-o" after yanking. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 17:04:00 2010 Received: (at 6532) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 21:04:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTLUm-0004LP-5X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:04:00 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-h11.telenor.se ([62.127.194.4]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTLUj-0004LK-Gl for 6532@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:03:58 -0400 Received: from ipb2.telenor.se (ipb2.telenor.se [195.54.127.165]) by smtprelay-h11.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6E8FAE4 for <6532@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:52 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.35] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am01ACmrKExV4S0jPGdsb2JhbACHb5dGDAEBAQE1LcEihSQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,499,1272837600"; d="scan'208";a="95430499" Received: from c-232de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.35]) by ipb2.telenor.se with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2010 23:03:52 +0200 Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD6477FA05A; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4C290E36.70301@swipnet.se> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:50 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.4) Gecko/20100608 Thunderbird/3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 6532@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers References: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> <83tyonatjb.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83tyonatjb.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) Nice, you learn something every day. Jan D. Eli Zaretskii skrev 2010-06-28 20.42: >> From: jidanni@jidanni.org >> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:42:57 +0800 >> Cc: >> >> Is it a bug or a feature that when I copy some glowing blue characters >> to another buffer, they stay glowing blue, instead of adopting the drab >> colors of other text that was typed into that buffer? > > Feature. If you don't like it, set yank-excluded-properties to t. Or > type "M-o M-o" after yanking. > > From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 28 17:09:20 2010 Received: (at 6532-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2010 21:09:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTLZw-0004Nd-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:09:20 -0400 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTLZv-0004NY-Ch for 6532-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:09:19 -0400 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o5SL9CCx022505 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:09:13 GMT Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o5SL71DK001281; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:09:11 GMT Received: from abhmt020.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 363659731277759348; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:09:08 -0700 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:09:07 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , References: <87zkyfyrxa.fsf@jidanni.org> <83tyonatjb.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#6532: text properties follow along text copied to other buffers Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:09:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcsW9A8EuRNWRVBNRF+Avt7h2xpbeQAEGkQA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 In-Reply-To: <83tyonatjb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Source-IP: acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4C290F78.0040:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6532-done Cc: 6532-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > Feature. If you don't like it, set yank-excluded-properties to t. Or > type "M-o M-o" after yanking. Too bad that `M-o M-o' is undocumented. At least I cannot find it in the Emacs manual. And I see nothing about it in the help for `yank' and its linked help, including for `yank-excluded-properties'. The doc should clarify more generally the relation between font-lock mode and (yanking) text with properties. In particular, even with `yank-excluded-properties' nil, users will not see text properties on text they yank if they are in font-lock-mode. From unknown Sun Aug 17 22:00:49 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator