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An example is `char-after' char-after is a built-in function in =E2=80=98src/editfns.c=E2=80=99. (char-after &optional POS) Type: (function (&optional (or marker integer)) (or null (integer -2305843009213693952 2305843009213693951))) Return character in current buffer at position POS. POS is an integer or a marker and defaults to point. If POS is out of range, the value is nil. If not a user option, can it be moved after the docstring? 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Visuwesh writes: > Can a user option be added to not show the "Type:" annotation in *Help* > buffers for certain functions? An example is `char-after' > > char-after is a built-in function in =E2=80=98src/editfns.c=E2=80=99. > > (char-after &optional POS) Type: (function (&optional (or marker > integer)) (or null (integer -2305843009213693952 > 2305843009213693951))) > > Return character in current buffer at position POS. > POS is an integer or a marker and defaults to point. > If POS is out of range, the value is nil. > > If not a user option, can it be moved after the docstring? Only functions have types, these are not the same types those given to user options. That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the information of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if there is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like (function (&optional position) (or position null)) using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not highlight the information so prominently? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 14 10:25:16 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2023 14:25:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34105 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVYVP-0006tL-VP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:25:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::435]:45159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVYVO-0006t5-5w for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:25:14 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-31792ac0fefso3740236f8f.2 for <65288@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 07:25:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1692023108; x=1692627908; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Od44veLmn+Bwu7js1LebzhFTi2GOXtWoH6UpHhJ7y/8=; b=MDwg4OV7QDRpPQEDK9qs1nyF7yMQcHtpTzoCErqzX3SjEuKnm/2CSTm4fZxSD8Y+9T lG8K+s/Xnw7CnPUiScklmDTo9v4u3SVPV0iITt9LGoKvdUXUeXyM2r65Saj1PDgKf8R6 nnmqUD5RXWFGN/K0hRnVfABaSD0A4L48NlrAyyFsruwEKe9UYTnIdv3StUHPf/QtblLS Pu3J/bZmczwhJbpGACDdOjApfSe/y4v663W/K81QnNQkBlZaxUOWrF6VAQBr48/BuJZe ZQTcEfTsM7klhaI8f1BV65NzXfBzWYENHLFG+hj4uS31ywWluUNIe553MrQmlZa0u0p2 IFpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1692023108; x=1692627908; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Od44veLmn+Bwu7js1LebzhFTi2GOXtWoH6UpHhJ7y/8=; b=eG8uPBS5QBbcnZDxeX6tc4PT6mNm0G7O1wXrurlfme0TwE7LADIK3Y5FvUL7U/Dymm dIFZiXCLv7wpH0p0I6fc7/DkdcajpvkObyKTXA4SH15JwVKxzcLBL0pD7SH2N3AfnAav BzswY4T+hQHg1q1eMxq02t2hoz+NlA07NpXrfifMHIY5YnVIL2wG8EcpNAn4BTfiKhAB bP6kfQe+q75gjF5jDcQf1xHqYI6rYOOPxqzjbKGpfGHRML6Xc3unxzz8xUeqGaBRrc5e fFuWmNWhIazKD05q4GF95fX4NmdxW/lhvMzmgY/PjxaJDDXpZSxv/zsy4CVB1Fv2w+ql DkbA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwEUL1AH1b+Hhu8LyJBQK7yl6Nb84UK7c+3/6v4OYEikx58vYoz Vlx3yyxwUpzib2KWZBoEd3q/wJn4Ghc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFKgBFjJrsnJObC8bgpQZY7iKdwI5uHsw9jyRqMVIQLcS3OacOx5E7BYh+TVVXC8hOR390o6Q== X-Received: by 2002:adf:f84f:0:b0:319:7c0f:d920 with SMTP id d15-20020adff84f000000b003197c0fd920mr1330330wrq.57.1692023108035; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 07:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caladan ([185.127.213.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a2-20020a5d4d42000000b00317ca89f6c5sm14526638wru.107.2023.08.14.07.25.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Aug 2023 07:25:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Helmut Eller To: Philip Kaludercic Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:51:26 +0000") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:25:06 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Aug 14 2023, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the information > of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if there > is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like > > (function (&optional position) (or position null)) > > using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not > highlight the information so prominently? It would make sense to rewrite (integer -2305843009213693952 2305843009213693951) as fixnum. Helmut From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 14 10:44:48 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2023 14:44:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34115 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVYoK-0007Kx-AW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:44:48 -0400 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:48085) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVYoI-0007Kk-4Y for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:44:47 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B77E240103 for <65288@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:44:40 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1692024280; bh=uph5fYfg5a8W4iGUBOB4lGKWvLpKex80tarEFSoPzv4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=OD3gmPHDT+6PjERMH+1YDJufFr6+n5DfLe20y6V+XtoPcE2qfTAIpSsf8CBfRJ5k7 BfzUn0x4jS4psP0xXiBg7yev83w3LPUewTLsIiafAO2M6oykr4NPXDTQ6ZPE6xyADp qtSlay+l1pcrY9568bIfO8W1Evq11WKOMwrmFY7C2rVkCo1YO9ayaZPNGOMvS6l0Gn kKj42FZFKQYyy2Ixr5ERLoQTWGxDKrBJvw94yWB8z7IdMrHFBNoLmKnUP+azN1A1JC kc3V0iGhfHHBQU0kuIstfTja/3a4Ws9TgY90la6XXN7jhDX8ZNqzsMRVoL4ie/h7yR WtbZCBbxXHLpA== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RPccR3MSwz9rxH; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:44:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Philip Kaludercic To: Helmut Eller Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: (Helmut Eller's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:25:06 +0200") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 14:44:38 +0000 Message-ID: <87h6p1y97t.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Helmut Eller writes: > On Mon, Aug 14 2023, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > >> That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the information >> of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if there >> is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like >> >> (function (&optional position) (or position null)) >> >> using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not >> highlight the information so prominently? > > It would make sense to rewrite > (integer -2305843009213693952 2305843009213693951) > as fixnum. My point is rather that the actual return value is not just any number, but a "position" in a buffer. 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Mon, 14 Aug 2023 18:03:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Philip Kaludercic To: Helmut Eller Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: (Helmut Eller's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 17:13:54 +0200") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87h6p1y97t.fsf@posteo.net> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:03:01 +0000 Message-ID: <87zg2twr0q.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Helmut Eller writes: > Error! Result from decryption: > > Decryption failed > > Decryption failed You seen to have sent an encrypted message to the mailing list. That is an issue in case any one wants to read the public archive, but I can't read the message right now either, so it would be nice if you could resend the message. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: [திங்கள் ஆகஸ்ட் 14, 2023] Philip Kaludercic wrote: > Visuwesh writes: > >> Can a user option be added to not show the "Type:" annotation in *Help* >> buffers for certain functions? An example is `char-after' >> >> char-after is a built-in function i [...] Content analysis details: (2.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [118.185.152.162 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [2607:f8b0:4864:20:0:0:0:1043 listed in] [list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (visuweshm[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager [=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=86= =E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B8=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AF=8D 14, 2023] Philip Kaludercic w= rote: > Visuwesh writes: > >> Can a user option be added to not show the "Type:" annotation in *Help* >> buffers for certain functions? An example is `char-after' >> >> char-after is a built-in function in =E2=80=98src/editfns.c=E2=80=99. >> >> (char-after &optional POS) Type: (function (&optional (or marker >> integer)) (or null (integer -2305843009213693952 >> 2305843009213693951))) >> >> Return character in current buffer at position POS. >> POS is an integer or a marker and defaults to point. >> If POS is out of range, the value is nil. >> >> If not a user option, can it be moved after the docstring? > > Only functions have types, these are not the same types those given to > user options. There's no confusion about user option type and function argument type but this info crowds the second line which only contained the function signature before. Other extra info are at the bottom of the buffer so moving it there would be more consistent too. > That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the information > of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if there > is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like > > (function (&optional position) (or position null)) > > using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not > highlight the information so prominently? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 14 13:11:30 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2023 17:11:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34353 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVb6C-0005WC-MM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:11:30 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::436]:46435) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVb65-0005Vj-2u for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 13:11:22 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-317dcdae365so3929704f8f.1 for <65288@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:11:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20221208; t=1692033071; x=1692637871; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=4P2sEbN8QGT9RxANklGvNrpHbSFmfDtsZ51zzBHASwE=; b=PzkC+0wsgLfWmfOWI36248ZPIgZQ5lX/KZSKBsOMVpGVk6FN24Dztw2S4fc2yhNUl1 V/CdL1woFyykbDfRXVsAf/V+fhBaFiRbcIH6Zm8UI8Wl8ThuvBCZ9mEzzW6l9EMq1Duz gdQrcPVJo2twft2T/7ez+b2WrJ/Vc/lGKuS4yhQdLYSWuBiAJwn8hS2t87uvJcGf9MSb +5YTFENwy1GZlaDVZeUtKY6AvfLA+9Y6v3sDK0O2rZbAgEBCHkYoo3iRA2a41KAMXCA6 lHVG2gSKeVI3eQuFm6/l764p1jHmtLgBg7maGyI5H1ttuo8hHEvX30gQYJnxi1VTROfb VIjA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1692033071; x=1692637871; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=4P2sEbN8QGT9RxANklGvNrpHbSFmfDtsZ51zzBHASwE=; b=JMHfvOGP1uObiX32EodpIfdIr6YX1LyRy0q1bygoO0BVkaH4m6naJF7c5Z/9MASxka mV6wWNM4gfXAv1nBhCAOxk81PXaTmy1MD4xFxM4e3VFDBMm3+3Ysy7RIlRdYauW7GCG0 PqIRTLjygtjjTkOHlbEAeD0JvSH/cVcFg4l/qLBb1ZEiM3C7306teVFXdH+Chv2WjGCk LDMMf1SJHcImj3BC7OaJnH0zrqqnwv+MytYlZugvcunoITwRqX4fpTI6gW1ErCFSI0tz UPC+GOTn9XCC0M/NiQNewCTo8Tmvq7MPfxZ4mA+6UIodLq9z3jq6KpKUvZzke55nl5bE QfBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz6lIKjtSrCCuUgTEt8GI9MOVtxnzkY17p3YkDH9zVIojE0FKDl RaQsEaJ0H3IOEt/uztbnNbcvukXtFQ0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGRhT2cXwJGdEc34hsIlfPEdduejgv0GLlhsi6BB3D98PtuQmJjloKHo4AUAeEnm1jBpp2/ag== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:558c:0:b0:319:7abf:d8e2 with SMTP id i12-20020a5d558c000000b003197abfd8e2mr2137023wrv.24.1692033070987; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caladan ([185.127.213.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t16-20020a05600001d000b00317b5c8a4f1sm14873568wrx.60.2023.08.14.10.11.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:11:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Helmut Eller To: Philip Kaludercic Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: <87zg2twr0q.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:03:01 +0000") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87h6p1y97t.fsf@posteo.net> <87zg2twr0q.fsf@posteo.net> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 19:11:09 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Mon, Aug 14 2023, Philip Kaludercic wrote: > You seen to have sent an encrypted message to the mailing list. That is > an issue in case any one wants to read the public archive, but I can't > read the message right now either, so it would be nice if you could > resend the message. Oops. I had written: The result can also be nil. So a your "position" type would include nil but exclude 0 and negative fixnums. Fine with me. Helmut From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 19 04:28:35 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2023 08:28:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXHJz-0004ek-IB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:28:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50996) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXHJy-0004eX-AR for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:28:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXHJq-0006Cl-0p; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:28:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=CwcfBNyWM2On3HrLYHlGHSrXBiO3g4HO2toXbKl/48c=; b=iwM6WsnRBtNt+bRFr152 eYrNqrxseRJozq5Q9jJMpk/qIzQz/b9LU6QN4V7GQHfbQb1U2KruKKp7JdMEUGVzaM/AsLN1LzeI+ oigLOnlCZvTvbxDsS7nTUM7Y5hXxd/hBM1dMBWqI1TEU9+L/b7zAnfCq0xTjuqVMYI/Ul6d8Mzt5l VLIQifsf7r99Zqcl/2vQfZk6FaHwri/SBNobIh7b6+Y9BXPAJ5kIWaRsUZxF+vDPp98EWAXChF093 T40h1w5oCtl6u4h0DUJRuPoayulfHWK/jzyYvIVLotU7ROeeXBs58WAeH45yfViI6KZ7/7/AMSTeN JMmQ79w9DFAQ8g==; Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:28:37 +0300 Message-Id: <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Visuwesh , Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Visuwesh on Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:47:31 +0530) Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Visuwesh > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:47:31 +0530 > > [திங்கள் ஆகஸ்ட் 14, 2023] Philip Kaludercic wrote: > > > Visuwesh writes: > > > >> Can a user option be added to not show the "Type:" annotation in *Help* > >> buffers for certain functions? An example is `char-after' > >> > >> char-after is a built-in function in ‘src/editfns.c’. > >> > >> (char-after &optional POS) Type: (function (&optional (or marker > >> integer)) (or null (integer -2305843009213693952 > >> 2305843009213693951))) > >> > >> Return character in current buffer at position POS. > >> POS is an integer or a marker and defaults to point. > >> If POS is out of range, the value is nil. > >> > >> If not a user option, can it be moved after the docstring? > > > > Only functions have types, these are not the same types those given to > > user options. > > There's no confusion about user option type and function argument type > but this info crowds the second line which only contained the function > signature before. Other extra info are at the bottom of the buffer so > moving it there would be more consistent too. > > > That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the information > > of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if there > > is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like > > > > (function (&optional position) (or position null)) > > > > using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not > > highlight the information so prominently? Andrea, would it make sense to introduce an option which could disable showing this information in *Help*? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Aug 19 05:53:39 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2023 09:53:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXIeJ-0007A8-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 05:53:39 -0400 Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:44532) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXIeH-00079w-4I for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 05:53:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20220101; t=1692438814; bh=7UPSvG+YzSZxXlh1IljmikXIRXfobBK6KYyeD0DIjqg=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=6Uu07tOpjgNab/SMRjcm/S7LnWAjAT4+P3bWcGqqJEmvCcmmeBB/XMY0sh2oJemqu S95lhTdjydrpbDOxJFiwlMXu6UThaEP5N7eDSUTH0OPPN3EdfYK1WjtB9smJic7Gi9 8/khjiuuqjAj6tZ/gh4P9gy9E8mqMDvPPaGbp2REOF1UIJ0tB4JVEmgGZtMbGbaxbx x6upWVnD27fekOoSHspRNkKs0oSvQHeHQwungnMgWfZsjeiUdWEYopp2PVSn6itYxl 9Q74ECEi04I4LagrhYYGfGdj0VZNLjGDj9v1WgKSb0fvmXx9awXC4rgieoReneVqYe EY0DY9/7kzd8Q== Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:53:34 +0000 From: Gregory Heytings To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: <387ee04aa987b63e64c2@heytings.org> References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, Andrea Corallo , Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > > Andrea, would it make sense to introduce an option which could disable > showing this information in *Help*? > FWIW, it's already possible to do that with: (defun comp-function-type-spec (&rest args)) (which disables showing that information in all cases) or (define-advice comp-function-type-spec (:around (cfts function)) (unless (member function '(char-after char-before)) (funcall cfts function))) (which disables showing that information for specific cases). A user option would perhaps make sense, though. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 20 06:11:32 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2023 10:11:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53119 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfPA-0006pK-18 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfP6-0006p5-LZ for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:30 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfOz-0005KT-72; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=8LfUd4juxcng1rhGCHpBf8Jj/Yen6EFfpdS1HB9Peoc=; b=fQMV8ouJzf8KvqClGOhh 71aoMTEMRbpdALGw/uMApC9oXV+Iz7fADlGGPmfFy1EJByaQiKnCrL0VMw3H1YP4+NjwY8bfNIwoW mY8J3FYvwM6/BUDFvApmlPJ/5RjeC71dVtDiy9C6DjQBTk3WLNwVyn8Tt0ivzu0+SQE5YGqcQR4ot pRPr0BsccS2nxui92ZhLqg4wpC9gfIhfsI11venER5j9qAqmt+lTUa0uXK6xBZRIuaGx/kbtPC7dt +Hb1riaNg6iR+u/Vrfasjkngjowx+V4wZSupI8Mmo7tpJCR6Vm3c3m9Dyc03fASMTxLpBKSuqEKK6 FsMUV3Ca3MNNrg==; Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfOy-0004pv-WA; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:21 -0400 From: Andrea Corallo To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:28:37 +0300") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:20 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Visuwesh >> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 20:47:31 +0530 >>=20 >> [=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE= =86=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B8=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=9F=E0=AF=8D 14, 2023] Philip Kaluderci= c wrote: >>=20 >> > Visuwesh writes: >> > >> >> Can a user option be added to not show the "Type:" annotation in *Hel= p* >> >> buffers for certain functions? An example is `char-after' >> >> >> >> char-after is a built-in function in =E2=80=98src/editfns.c=E2=80= =99. >> >> >> >> (char-after &optional POS) Type: (function (&optional (or marker >> >> integer)) (or null (integer -2305843009213693952 >> >> 2305843009213693951))) >> >> >> >> Return character in current buffer at position POS. >> >> POS is an integer or a marker and defaults to point. >> >> If POS is out of range, the value is nil. >> >> >> >> If not a user option, can it be moved after the docstring? >> > >> > Only functions have types, these are not the same types those given to >> > user options. >>=20 >> There's no confusion about user option type and function argument type >> but this info crowds the second line which only contained the function >> signature before. Other extra info are at the bottom of the buffer so >> moving it there would be more consistent too. >>=20 >> > That being said, I agree that in cases like `char-after' the informati= on >> > of a very specific type like that one is limited. I don't know if the= re >> > is a sensible heuristic to reformat the type into something like >> > >> > (function (&optional position) (or position null)) >> > >> > using some kind of type aliasing, but it might be better to not >> > highlight the information so prominently? > > Andrea, would it make sense to introduce an option which could disable > showing this information in *Help*? Hi Eli, sure why not, something like `help-enable-function-type'? Thanks Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 20 06:24:58 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2023 10:24:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfc9-0007BJ-OV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:24:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42818) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfc7-0007Az-RD for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:24:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfc0-0007Ts-2n; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:24:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=hsFJgbBo/R2npuN2J7KR0Z0MMD9kOM+VBkRsdeIDLTI=; b=d81hOE5fcr6yWKNKDW2T Dkdw9//80EvSCk5D7tLI+IToOTURhNhNnQVamCH7yEcI9A6uFHVXGpshC8L3WYBt3gPo/NA0xPLfQ q76D5lW3R0BLpF0xp2Gs3uGdIbb3woc5qePRqHzwsR4tqoGDfyYMR0H+kIDYV84lKAwsGPu4fkYaT /7bbMElOMzX7M5wm2NvONBX7/gBCi2DsxI11BzK9hOUn68I7BxTA/kHptSUX3NkWS2GiaYusnSP0O KvXz7bWxURAbbv7TFbmq2mexneRhFzi0FO8Gy7nUPsZEclrXIryDSnk87IAmEM9bP1dtXLY2M582Z p7cDq4rtDSFPMA==; Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfby-0005yR-SU; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:24:46 -0400 From: Andrea Corallo To: Philip Kaludercic Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun, 20 Aug 2023 10:15:33 +0000") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:24:46 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Philip Kaludercic writes: > I think "help-display-function-type" might be more clear. Re-adding the list. Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 20 06:37:08 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2023 10:37:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfnw-0007g0-01 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:37:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42674) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfns-0007fP-72 for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:37:06 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXfnl-0001fw-2M; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:36:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=EGfaYzDP+pi242mLwXoeLGObCTL9IDk6OclvYtQr8Ws=; b=UC+JpAzDNSFD mzhrjxmtk52svEM7BywKBGnITEH+Rb072fPqcV0z0gCU5cZeZpccL8McnSxi7Wqg1Psf7MpfYJ8g4 w1V4oK5cUb+bNJVrgW0sf/WZHaHLd06NyFS36EFE5ZXbf/mFw2XNZy72GEZ2Wbz4ld7kutabIRi+6 RUcB8GfM82UQ5+qSG8W7KLiCcykKiWH5cucTDojP96ulIG2zCwiFbeVChdU+apJBXmR4a4OnnHkOo q5B0upli5U1BYl+kAiguuAotW3qOBhtxRDIuZz9X/Q4GV+dD2LoGqGFuCuH/w8Xsw9KWZwfyBiKT4 ZOYC19LwXXgWklb90FsSjQ==; Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:37:10 +0300 Message-Id: <83r0nyvw2x.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:20 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, visuweshm@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: Visuwesh , philipk@posteo.net, 65288@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:20 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Andrea, would it make sense to introduce an option which could disable > > showing this information in *Help*? > > Hi Eli, > > sure why not, something like `help-enable-function-type'? Yes, something like that. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 20 08:19:43 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2023 12:19:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXhPD-0004ZM-C1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 08:19:43 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:43637) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXhPB-0004Z7-93 for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 08:19:41 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 011A7240027 for <65288@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 14:19:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1692533974; bh=MEHkIG+KPrtkcTjhVzrFCMv7I8khnCQmo7Gqt0FFcjQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=YrAAai2LavnarmgKu1L3/Gq7xS3XFJCOfuffdrz4CAKzn+CsXb+o7+r6F2rr8c0m4 oeHECCQS2gZgh4U6xvf23JAowQHpHj83Z8cqg8fyCOiF/gJZGiCukE7j6MnAW51cEJ 5NuFAkNmt1rF3LVKGB32L2GukOMVMrR7Es8r9K1sEfj48AwIlkL/tcJMomouWgk5A/ z0+gPOZd/7n5zhpr0qxHzCnyfO0+rOwnqBHEK1Vqq0f87xCF13/GzaoMRUUQFAGjrA ybc56gWWqJNZe2WQ1AyOxFQ/FUzUV05dwr8jqCmZsOsLcxI7UaB3A6Gi3z9wCVwuE5 DUYjodQbTJkTQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RTF6F1j1vz9rxH; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 14:19:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Philip Kaludercic To: Andrea Corallo Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:24:46 -0400") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 12:19:31 +0000 Message-ID: <87pm3hucrw.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Visuwesh X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Andrea Corallo writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> I think "help-display-function-type" might be more clear. > > Re-adding the list. Eh sorry, I responded from my phone. > Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 20 16:39:50 2023 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Aug 2023 20:39:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXpDC-0006XI-DS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60234) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXpDA-0006X5-0Z for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXpD2-0006NL-Gk; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=OvVRa9MS4ppkrtP8kAAAX9B6QFNUHw5TIhEeOe2/v8o=; b=SbR53Vl+6bppgS8DUDZs mHjgA4C1pz+j3xDWY1xRpeQSL3gWfsQwzxERiMxQ6Bdo87y1XrziXOyUUopGPNmNUsZslsAdEDi9Q vKunmfhYiRSyhnfbS5pjqlzQGZimqbT1OCPw1LCipdnCO2B4aaDpnv8paitr3XB8gpwrVM8OH3GCE EcXQ9CuR/kd38zQH+DDAd2mwWPf7CKfSkOf+Ys7uICpV8JP+DrDC5/27sgRYQkpRGaGp7K6JFxwBe PpFAvpUs70cf8pk2YcK49vKQIAmfnu8u/2U6WC1Jj5dGaOC7wX2EjXwjxejYRTMa/iZQVs6mylpUk XY+E4/QM7+LtNw==; Received: from acorallo by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXpD2-0003yp-7F; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:40 -0400 From: Andrea Corallo To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers In-Reply-To: <83r0nyvw2x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:37:10 +0300") References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0nyvw2x.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:40 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, visuweshm@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Andrea Corallo >> Cc: Visuwesh , philipk@posteo.net, 65288@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 06:11:20 -0400 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Andrea, would it make sense to introduce an option which could disable >> > showing this information in *Help*? >> >> Hi Eli, >> >> sure why not, something like `help-enable-function-type'? > > Yes, something like that. Okay I pushed 652e45b70d8 introducing `help-display-function-type' as suggested by Philip, happy to tweak the name or the doc if we feel it's necessary. Thanks Andrea From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 21 08:15:42 2023 Received: (at 65288-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2023 12:15:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qY3os-0001zZ-5R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:15:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qY3op-0001it-Rm for 65288-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:15:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qY3og-00085S-R4; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:15:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Iu+P4b5UacL8Bbik+hyecZ3TZ+8s8LPPU6+LQTBD5Q8=; b=WcCz8zeKQznj vbnzvl0iWy782ezH4nJTbBenIC5l6i0duclTS64kaGyPuSOlzUVOQ2Ta+FdGi/eElu70onfmAOJJh f/U0GzuyvTEV5a/PNoft9b+ma60L+l1UdLIR4Ue5MXzOuxTL2xQXvtxEPwdNoHVF9BJSW8fsy6S6S BE9ZiLnhQhYTBXIBrOWx5e6EylQUqVgPei5C4dIq8l13ZJMTf2PioT5V5z2uzX1kFe7eM16GoSqCW 3KveG5W7x5k9vNYggkJA61TDb0tWok/SBRrqaZuNTRwi644NRZHjhT9mOpW+Wh8hFK5jlhs5XJa60 puF4BBEQsf6gnCbTim8I2A==; Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 15:15:42 +0300 Message-Id: <83h6osvbf5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Andrea Corallo In-Reply-To: (message from Andrea Corallo on Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:40 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.50; Make Type: annotation optional in *Help* buffers References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <87jztxivfl.fsf@posteo.net> <87leed4pro.fsf@gmail.com> <83350f1lmy.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0nyvw2x.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288-done Cc: 65288-done@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, visuweshm@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andrea Corallo > Cc: visuweshm@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, 65288@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 16:39:40 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> sure why not, something like `help-enable-function-type'? > > > > Yes, something like that. > > Okay I pushed 652e45b70d8 introducing `help-display-function-type' as > suggested by Philip, happy to tweak the name or the doc if we feel it's > necessary. Thanks, tweaked, and closing the bug. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 11:24:12 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 07 06:42:38 2025 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2025 11:42:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41945 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tV7yo-0002Of-AG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 06:42:38 -0500 Received: from smtp-4.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.59]:58191) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tV7ym-0002OQ-Su for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 06:42:37 -0500 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=40405 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-4.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tV7yk-0006jw-48 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:42:34 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-103-232.as55850.net ([139.180.103.232]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:42:34 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:42:34 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: unarchive 65288 Message-ID: <06ba910e470b25bca1a3b730c31ba289@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) unarchive 65288 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 07 06:49:12 2025 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2025 11:49:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41954 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tV85A-0002hY-3f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 06:49:12 -0500 Received: from smtp-4.orcon.net.nz ([60.234.4.59]:57029) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tV858-0002hP-Ck for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 06:49:10 -0500 Received: from [10.253.37.70] (port=1658 helo=webmail.orcon.net.nz) by smtp-4.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tV856-0006uE-By for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:49:08 +1300 Received: from ip-139-180-103-232.as55850.net ([139.180.103.232]) via [10.253.37.253] by webmail.orcon.net.nz with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:49:07 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:49:07 +1300 From: Phil Sainty To: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: 30.0.93; Add a NEWS entry for `help-display-function-type' Message-ID: <9c1d0b59578347b82ef93612eaa9eb06@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Sender: psainty@orcon.net.nz User-Agent: Orcon Webmail X-GeoIP: -- X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) The new user option `help-display-function-type' enables the "Inferred type" and "Declared type" specs to be hidden, but I think it needs a NEWS item. With the type information displayed so prominently and frequently, I'm sure that a lot of users will be searching NEWS for the text "Inferred type" and/or "Declared type" to find out why they've started appearing; what they mean; and quite likely how to get rid of them. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 07 13:25:16 2025 Received: (at 65288) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2025 18:25:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVEGS-0006Bu-I0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 13:25:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35420) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVEGP-00067b-RV for 65288@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 13:25:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVEGI-0000vX-Qt; Tue, 07 Jan 2025 13:25:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=q0LQMM8Y/wgVGbAMFeciyatttb6ffVEvS4/bLSRknv0=; b=LKt8vTcgFIRl BKT/A0+QFz6a1H1PaXkc0OkQx3R3ebx/ZIUD5DAiOQO7JtT8YqrjRnoBajk7sPs9NOq/7SP4Gz+0w iawpdBrgYtMGOvgt5s7PNDkfmx0Q6ejB5XJJ1U6BRVrma++B8SYdXOSb60moEgPYOEEcXPb7e4m/r GLkyzXzMoyrBTrdblX14v+wCin+CsBL0qO2JYZI8RsmlkzSsG95wa4bNoA4PpeYES/axvDA/DmC77 l1Xjaklx422IW8yJVv0ikMb5TxCYkNYcoeEsifRSuwOCcjW1UhCSIIY0gtLRVIJRpR3m9se0W/S9/ z5tmEbGNN70OKiA9cmUvng==; Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 20:24:59 +0200 Message-Id: <86frlu4h38.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Phil Sainty In-Reply-To: <9c1d0b59578347b82ef93612eaa9eb06@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (message from Phil Sainty on Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:49:07 +1300) Subject: Re: bug#65288: 30.0.93; Add a NEWS entry for `help-display-function-type' References: <87pm3p4xjx.fsf@gmail.com> <9c1d0b59578347b82ef93612eaa9eb06@webmail.orcon.net.nz> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65288 Cc: 65288@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 00:49:07 +1300 > From: Phil Sainty > > The new user option `help-display-function-type' enables the > "Inferred type" and "Declared type" specs to be hidden, but > I think it needs a NEWS item. > > With the type information displayed so prominently and frequently, > I'm sure that a lot of users will be searching NEWS for the text > "Inferred type" and/or "Declared type" to find out why they've > started appearing; what they mean; and quite likely how to get > rid of them. These terms did already appear in NEWS and in the manuals. I added the variable there, so I think we are good now. Thanks. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:06:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2025 12:24:16 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator