From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 27 15:56:42 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jun 2010 19:56:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSxy5-0000Gi-UD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:56:42 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSxy3-0000GX-6O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:56:39 -0400 Received: by wwb22 with SMTP id 22so2685482wwb.3 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=khbcDWNeG0IH8Ud5C9580NuvWW5OjFrXaG+9dDe4APQ=; b=vjtgo8t2FqN5SdMktGwSFmvXkayUPH3CdudLqTY/26otNCXPepRI+C3hWapYcRV7kn FpAEzl2mF79m0sogMRkLTBpYb/MpLjP5vGQcAefBqt2qjSoUKDXu23iFfCrE2Mfr8YEv YAHVcykzrzxZAA8is+C2q/aWk+9+/xDTVRimw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=XoSqXQ0UMii2hmFRZt21jnPKDJSRjIlwCfg+dv5YnpXHGKHZGD64M8yad/7bN0rvmJ x1ahaKa8FF7BpsH/vOIACW8ykKSjWRg14E6uHA5qgRtOW8rTh0j5mn/qyH/udWInh5T1 bSPQyreFR81RtgVXfc90MSuttB3vAOD5rF7wY= Received: by 10.216.157.141 with SMTP id o13mr2845074wek.5.1277668594199; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:56:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.183.75 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:56:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Deniz Dogan Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:56:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: 24.0.50; The help character To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=0016e65c7dfeb2c255048a08667a X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) --0016e65c7dfeb2c255048a08667a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Package: emacs Version: 24.0.50 Tags: patch Severity: minor When you hit C-h C-h in Emacs, you get this: "You have typed C-h, the help character. Type a Help option:" I think "the help character" should be changed to something more appropriate, such as "the help key". While "the help key" is not completely accurate either for C-h (but is for ) it is better than calling or C-h characters. -- Deniz Dogan --0016e65c7dfeb2c255048a08667a Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="help-character.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="help-character.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Attachment-Id: f_gayasnaf0 PT09IG1vZGlmaWVkIGZpbGUgJ2xpc3AvaGVscC5lbCcKKioqIGxpc3AvaGVscC5lbAkyMDEwLTA0 LTE5IDE1OjA3OjUyICswMDAwCi0tLSBsaXNwL2hlbHAuZWwJMjAxMC0wNi0yNyAxOTo1MzozMSAr MDAwMAoqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioKKioqIDIwNiwyMTIgKioqKgogICAgOzsgRG9uJ3QgcHVyZWNv cHkgdGhpcyBvbmUsIGJlY2F1c2UgaXQncyBub3QgZXZhbHVhdGVkIChpdCdzCiAgICA7OyBkaXJl Y3RseSB1c2VkIGFzIGEgZG9jc3RyaW5nIGluIGEgZnVuY3Rpb24gZGVmaW5pdGlvbiwgc28gaXQn bGwKICAgIDs7IGJlIG1vdmVkIHRvIHRoZSBET0MgZmlsZSBhbnl3YXk6IG5vIG5lZWQgZm9yIHB1 cmVjb3B5aW5nIGl0KS4KISAgICJZb3UgaGF2ZSB0eXBlZCAlVEhJUy1LRVklLCB0aGUgaGVscCBj aGFyYWN0ZXIuICBUeXBlIGEgSGVscCBvcHRpb246CiAgXChVc2UgU1BDIG9yIERFTCB0byBzY3Jv bGwgdGhyb3VnaCB0aGlzIHRleHQuICBUeXBlIFxcPGhlbHAtbWFwPlxcW2hlbHAtcXVpdF0gdG8g ZXhpdCB0aGUgSGVscCBjb21tYW5kLikKICAKICBhIFBBVFRFUk4gICBTaG93IGNvbW1hbmRzIHdo b3NlIG5hbWUgbWF0Y2hlcyB0aGUgUEFUVEVSTiAoYSBsaXN0IG9mIHdvcmRzCi0tLSAyMDYsMjEy IC0tLS0KICAgIDs7IERvbid0IHB1cmVjb3B5IHRoaXMgb25lLCBiZWNhdXNlIGl0J3Mgbm90IGV2 YWx1YXRlZCAoaXQncwogICAgOzsgZGlyZWN0bHkgdXNlZCBhcyBhIGRvY3N0cmluZyBpbiBhIGZ1 bmN0aW9uIGRlZmluaXRpb24sIHNvIGl0J2xsCiAgICA7OyBiZSBtb3ZlZCB0byB0aGUgRE9DIGZp bGUgYW55d2F5OiBubyBuZWVkIGZvciBwdXJlY29weWluZyBpdCkuCiEgICAiWW91IGhhdmUgdHlw ZWQgJVRISVMtS0VZJSwgdGhlIGhlbHAga2V5LiAgVHlwZSBhIEhlbHAgb3B0aW9uOgogIFwoVXNl IFNQQyBvciBERUwgdG8gc2Nyb2xsIHRocm91Z2ggdGhpcyB0ZXh0LiAgVHlwZSBcXDxoZWxwLW1h cD5cXFtoZWxwLXF1aXRdIHRvIGV4aXQgdGhlIEhlbHAgY29tbWFuZC4pCiAgCiAgYSBQQVRURVJO ICAgU2hvdyBjb21tYW5kcyB3aG9zZSBuYW1lIG1hdGNoZXMgdGhlIFBBVFRFUk4gKGEgbGlzdCBv ZiB3b3JkcwoK --0016e65c7dfeb2c255048a08667a-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 19 13:40:59 2010 Received: (at 6522-quiet) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2010 17:40:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OauKp-0001gb-32 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:40:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OauKm-0001gT-EJ for 6522-quiet@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:40:57 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OauL6-0002Sm-Qb; Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:41:16 -0400 To: 6522-quiet@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6522 From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: global CBNRC AMEMB broadside CIA domestic disruption X-Ran: )hV:H User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -3.9 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6522-quiet X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) [ Resent from http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-07/msg00483.html ] Deniz Dogan wrote: > This e-mail is about this bug report: > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=6522 > > For some reason I don't understand it has been tagged as "wontfix". > Why is this? I can't find anything in the logs about it and no message > explaining why. Sorry, sometimes I cheat and operate directly on the database. Here's the associated mail I was going to send, but never got round to: I don't think this change is appropriate. Describing it as a character is factually correct (C-h v help-char, not sure if customizing it actually works though...), describing it as a key is factually incorrect. I doubt it really matters to anyone anyway, so why not stick with what is correct. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 09 01:44:46 2011 Received: (at 6522-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2011 05:44:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfQLN-0003sV-9i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:44:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfQLL-0003sE-MJ for 6522-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:44:43 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38797) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfQLG-0003bO-1Y; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:44:38 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 6522-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6522: 24.0.50; The help character References: X-Spook: corporate security Security Council ISEC counter X-Ran: (\/IhHs)CI{J/s507aamPwl3&|A_Oys|] X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:44:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Deniz Dogan's message of "Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:56:04 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6522-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) I don't see a need to keep open this particular report, which was marked "wontfix" some time ago. 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