Reported by: Loris Bennett <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:51:02 UTC
Severity: normal
Found in version 28.2
Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
Message #23 received at 65196 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de> To: Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Andrew G Cohen <cohen <at> andy.bu.edu>, 65196 <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:02:38 +0200
Loris Bennett <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de> writes: > Loris Bennett <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de> writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen <eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net> writes: >> >>> "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de> writes: >>> >>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes: >>>> >>>>>> From: Loris Bennett <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always >>>>>> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are >>>>>> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched >>>>>> for. >>>>>> >>>>>> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>>>>> >>>>>> Opening server fu_exchange >>>>>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>>>>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>>>>> >>>>>> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>>>>> >>>>>> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de") >>>>>> >>>>>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >>>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>>>>> >>>>>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>>>>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>>>>> (quote >>>>>> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >>>>>> (nnir-search-engine imap) >>>>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >>>>>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>>>> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >>>>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))))) >>>>>> >>>>>> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can >>>>>> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? >>>> >>>> Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is >>>> related to the specific select methods. >>>> >>>> For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above >>>> >>>> (nntp "fu_news" >>>> (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") >>>> (remove-prefix nntp) >>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))) >>>> >>>> Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns no >>>> messages. >>>> >>>> However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as GMX: >>>> >>>> (nnimap "gmx" >>>> (nnimap-stream tls) >>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap.") >>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >>>> >>>> If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the GMX >>>> account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder or the >>>> NNTP groups still fails. >>>> >>>> Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? >>> >>> For the exchange server, you should just remove the `nnir-search-engine` >>> setting from the definition, it should work find by default. >>> >>> I don't believe search works for nntp at all -- did it used to? >> >> >> Hmm, perhaps you are right. Maybe it never did. It certainly doesn't >> work on a third laptop with Emacs 27.1. Perhaps I am just confusing >> newsgroups and mailing lists (and mailing list posing as newsgroups via >> Gmane) and it was actually just working for the mailing lists. >> >> With init.el containing just >> >> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >> (quote >> ((nnimap "gmx" >> (nnimap-stream tls) >> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >> (nnimap "fu_exchange" >> (nnimap-stream tls) >> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de"))))) >> (custom-set-variables >> ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. >> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >> '(gnus-verbose 10)) >> (custom-set-faces >> ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. >> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >> ) >> >> Searching within the GMX mailbox works but not in a newsgroup and the >> Exchange mailbox. The following is shown in *Messages*: >> >> Opening server gmx >> Searching nnimap+gmx:Family...done >> Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf... >> nnimap read 0k from imap.gmx.com >> Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf...done >> Sorting threads...done >> Generating summary...done >> Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf... >> Opening server fu_exchange >> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >> Group nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf contains no messages >> previous-line: Beginning of buffer >> Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf... >> nnselect-run: gnus-search-run-query on ((search-query-spec (query . emacs) (raw)) (search-group-spec (nntp:news.fu-berlin.de comp.emacs))) gave error (gnus-search-config-error gnus-search-config-error No search engine configured for nntp:news.fu-berlin.de) >> Group nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf contains no messages >> >> So I seem to be missing a search engine for the newsgroup, but as we >> have established, that probably never worked. However, the search in >> the Exchange mailbox just fails without further information, and that >> definitely did used to work. > > Apparently Exchange does not like the character set being used. This is > the error message that Exchange generates: > > SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 TEXT hpc,"R=""6487 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The specified charset is not supported." > > I don't quite understand the error, as I would not think US-ASCII was a > bad charset. I assume it is more likely that my using a locale with > > LANG=en_US.utf8 > > might be the problem. This may have been different before I updated > Debian. > > If I search for a string such as "Bestätigung" in a folder belonging to > the GMX mail box, this also erroneously produces an empty result set. > > So it looks like it is not an actually problem with Gnus as such. The problem seems to have been resolved by Eric here: https://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english <at> gnu.org/msg14117.html This works for me. Did the change make it into Gnus? Anyway, thanks for the solution! Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under constuction.
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