From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: Loris Bennett Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 65196@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.169165744721150 (code B ref -1); Thu, 10 Aug 2023 08:51:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2023 08:50:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qU1NW-0005Ux-42 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:50:46 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:34964) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Q7-0003rV-Fl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:49:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Q1-0007tY-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:49:17 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Pz-00059d-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:49:17 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Pe-00487E-2n; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:54 +0200 Received: from 130-133-144-203.mna.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.144.203] helo=diaspore) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Pd-002OJF-Rz; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:54 +0200 From: Loris Bennett Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 130.133.144.203 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO Received-SPF: pass client-ip=130.133.4.66; envelope-from=loris@zedat.fu-berlin.de; helo=outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:50:43 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched for. In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: Opening server fu_exchange Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages The configuration in init.el is as follows: (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods (quote ((nnimap "fu_exchange" (nnir-search-engine imap) (remove-prefix "nnimap") (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") (nnimap-record-commands t) (nnimap-inbox INBOX) (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))))) The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.37, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2023-05-14, modified by Debian built on x86-ubc-01 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Configured using: 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --with-libsystemd --with-pop=yes --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/28.2/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-native-compilation --with-cairo --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2 -ffile-prefix-map=/build/emacs-mPr7Vr/emacs-28.2+1=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS X11 XDBE XIM XPM GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: cursor-sensor-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow emacsbug gnus-ml disp-table nnselect gnus-search eieio-opt speedbar ezimage dframe find-func mailalias smtpmail sendmail sort gnus-cite mail-extr cursor-sensor nndraft nnmh utf-7 gnutls nnfolder cl-extra help-mode network-stream nsm gnus-agent gnus-srvr gnus-score score-mode nnvirtual gnus-msg gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig nntp gnus-cache gnus-sum shr kinsoku svg dom browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util url-parse url-vars mailcap gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus dbus xml gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo parse-time iso8601 gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader gnus-win gnus nnheader gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json map rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums text-property-search time-date subr-x seq mail-utils mm-util mail-prsvr term/xterm xterm byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cus-edit pp cus-start cus-load wid-edit cl-loaddefs cl-lib chemacs iso-transl tooltip eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 222225 16769) (symbols 48 16178 6) (strings 32 51312 3558) (string-bytes 1 1619808) (vectors 16 26937) (vector-slots 8 523214 20757) (floats 8 255 68) (intervals 56 524 0) (buffers 992 20)) From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 06:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Loris Bennett , Andrew G Cohen Cc: 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.169182338814839 (code B ref 65196); Sat, 12 Aug 2023 06:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Aug 2023 06:56:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qUiXz-0003rG-Uy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 02:56:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38918) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qUiXy-0003qz-Jz for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 02:56:27 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qUiXr-0007AQ-MF; Sat, 12 Aug 2023 02:56:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=XFLT0YShIDhulvS8iOKkp48VSJnaEvh0gZ3rtWsx33U=; b=DDcwszcLow/v XO0V0/lp3pmv0PBDrlOrdfybDwX5hYPYhfT4RLh7mvvDK7ssVLStz5h1lltQrZtRR4VADHz4HWWql yK9wmu8Dpr6fFsMYcWgL1on1y8M25UpdJmvuAOZDEhn8ql4QqfF8+SYwWmpQR48hXJLzY/gz2a2BW 9CZ0hsp5R0GEr8KrtJj6vSO2mLa3cyMZdxXxLnIm7p8K1kf54pYDbnhPsZxybkMvs/VmSqYC/pmOy 4Enbl1fWFHRtFHxnvbzyTBWnP+MKf/M0OcmRRqcg2ccedrNBm2lN/4ohYgbRMwRCBaLek2vUX0Vd+ peSRumhpPTdoYWd23GZH2w==; Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 09:56:41 +0300 Message-Id: <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> (message from Loris Bennett on Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200) References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Loris Bennett > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 > > > After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always > says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are > in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched > for. > > In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: > > Opening server fu_exchange > Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done > Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages > > The configuration in init.el is as follows: > > (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") > > (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) > (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") > (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) > (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods > (quote > ((nnimap "fu_exchange" > (nnir-search-engine imap) > (remove-prefix "nnimap") > (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") > (nnimap-record-commands t) > (nnimap-inbox INBOX) > (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))))) > > The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). > > Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can > see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" In-Reply-To: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> Resent-From: "Loris Bennett" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Andrew G Cohen , 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.16920164186389 (code B ref 65196); Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2023 12:33:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVWlN-0001ep-5k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:33:38 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:56107) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVSQJ-0001gK-6s for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 03:55:36 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qVSQH-0007k5-RM; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:55:33 +0200 Received: from hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.11.110] helo=hornfels) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qVSQH-0010hz-M3; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:55:33 +0200 From: "Loris Bennett" Organization: ZEDAT, Freie =?UTF-8?Q?Universit=C3=A4t?= Berlin References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 160.45.11.110 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 08:33:35 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Loris Bennett >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>=20 >>=20 >> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always >> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are >> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched >> for. >>=20 >> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>=20 >> Opening server fu_exchange >> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>=20 >> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>=20 >> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") >>=20 >> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>=20 >> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >> (quote >> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >> (nnir-search-engine imap) >> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >> (nnimap-record-commands t) >> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesend= ete Elemente"))))) >>=20 >> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). >>=20 >> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can >> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. > > Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is related to the specific select methods. For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above (nntp "fu_news" (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") (remove-prefix nntp) (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente")))=20 Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns no messages. However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as GMX: (nnimap "gmx" (nnimap-stream tls) (remove-prefix "nnimap.") (nnimap-record-commands t) (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) =20=20 If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the GMX account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder or the NNTP groups still fails.=20 Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? Cheers, Loris =20 --=20 Dr. Loris Bennett (Herr/Mr) ZEDAT, Freie Universit=C3=A4t Berlin From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Loris Bennett" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.169203162618471 (code B ref 65196); Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Aug 2023 16:47:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34273 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVaif-0004nq-D7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:47:05 -0400 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:53628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVaic-0004nM-Np for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 12:47:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB9D2FA0C3; Mon, 14 Aug 2023 16:46:55 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1692031616; bh=sBFahce7TlsXDaghQni4d7MpQeoYQxrfRmxQGwcNmJQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=XIj59ehDxFgqVVzSVv3u+eTVBa2X1PR36x0F6v30b/EkwyF8UwMqGY98appvIcwbD 6gdIiJODLJyQi0yRbH8ac6fr19Fj01zQyTfPCHmBi2rzVxpMdd7sWtIpnawUdanjy2 1DPMrHOTy49OtygO3/nk0txinZjpPmK1Nm55IEIY= From: Eric Abrahamsen In-Reply-To: <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (Loris Bennett's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:55:33 +0200") References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:46:54 -0700 Message-ID: <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) "Loris Bennett" writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Loris Bennett >>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>> >>> >>> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always >>> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are >>> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched >>> for. >>> >>> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>> >>> Opening server fu_exchange >>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>> >>> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>> >>> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") >>> >>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>> >>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>> (quote >>> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >>> (nnir-search-engine imap) >>> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))))) >>> >>> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). >>> >>> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can >>> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. >> >> Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? > > Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is > related to the specific select methods. > > For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above > > (nntp "fu_news" > (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") > (remove-prefix nntp) > (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))) > > Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns no > messages. > > However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as GMX: > > (nnimap "gmx" > (nnimap-stream tls) > (remove-prefix "nnimap.") > (nnimap-record-commands t) > (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) > > If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the GMX > account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder or the > NNTP groups still fails. > > Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? For the exchange server, you should just remove the `nnir-search-engine` setting from the definition, it should work find by default. I don't believe search works for nntp at all -- did it used to? From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: "Loris Bennett" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 09:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.169209125720695 (code B ref 65196); Tue, 15 Aug 2023 09:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2023 09:20:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35023 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVqER-0005Ni-NQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2023 05:20:57 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:36431) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qVoEJ-00020a-Bz for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Aug 2023 03:12:40 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qVoEH-001gCT-OQ; Tue, 15 Aug 2023 09:12:37 +0200 Received: from 130-133-144-203.mna.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.144.203] helo=diaspore) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qVoEH-001hFH-Gj; Tue, 15 Aug 2023 09:12:37 +0200 From: "Loris Bennett" Organization: ZEDAT, Freie =?UTF-8?Q?Universit=C3=A4t?= Berlin References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 09:12:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:46:54 -0700") Message-ID: <874jl0ixsr.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 130.133.144.203 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 05:20:54 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > "Loris Bennett" writes: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>>> From: Loris Bennett >>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>>> >>>> >>>> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always >>>> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are >>>> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched >>>> for. >>>> >>>> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>>> >>>> Opening server fu_exchange >>>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>>> >>>> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>>> >>>> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") >>>> >>>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>>> >>>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>>> (quote >>>> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >>>> (nnir-search-engine imap) >>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >>>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))))) >>>> >>>> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). >>>> >>>> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can >>>> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. >>> >>> Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? >> >> Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is >> related to the specific select methods. >> >> For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above >> >> (nntp "fu_news" >> (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") >> (remove-prefix nntp) >> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))) >> >> Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns no >> messages. >> >> However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as GMX: >> >> (nnimap "gmx" >> (nnimap-stream tls) >> (remove-prefix "nnimap.") >> (nnimap-record-commands t) >> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >> >> If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the GMX >> account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder or the >> NNTP groups still fails. >> >> Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? > > For the exchange server, you should just remove the `nnir-search-engine` > setting from the definition, it should work find by default. > > I don't believe search works for nntp at all -- did it used to? Hmm, perhaps you are right. Maybe it never did. It certainly doesn't work on a third laptop with Emacs 27.1. Perhaps I am just confusing newsgroups and mailing lists (and mailing list posing as newsgroups via Gmane) and it was actually just working for the mailing lists. With init.el containing just (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods (quote ((nnimap "gmx" (nnimap-stream tls) (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) (nnimap "fu_exchange" (nnimap-stream tls) (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de"))))) (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. '(gnus-verbose 10)) (custom-set-faces ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. ) Searching within the GMX mailbox works but not in a newsgroup and the Exchange mailbox. The following is shown in *Messages*: Opening server gmx Searching nnimap+gmx:Family...done Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf... nnimap read 0k from imap.gmx.com Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf...done Sorting threads...done Generating summary...done Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf... Opening server fu_exchange Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done Group nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf contains no messages previous-line: Beginning of buffer Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf... nnselect-run: gnus-search-run-query on ((search-query-spec (query . emacs) (raw)) (search-group-spec (nntp:news.fu-berlin.de comp.emacs))) gave error (gnus-search-config-error gnus-search-config-error No search engine configured for nntp:news.fu-berlin.de) Group nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf contains no messages So I seem to be missing a search engine for the newsgroup, but as we have established, that probably never worked. However, the search in the Exchange mailbox just fails without further information, and that definitely did used to work. Cheers, Loris -- This signature is currently under constuction. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: "Loris Bennett" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:33:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.1692207126663 (code B ref 65196); Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:33:03 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2023 17:32:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWKNI-0000Aa-NU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 13:32:06 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:51659) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWHCX-0003nr-5v for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 10:08:46 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qWHCV-0015Zi-IK; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:08:43 +0200 Received: from hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.11.110] helo=hornfels) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qWHCV-002Lol-Cy; Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:08:43 +0200 From: "Loris Bennett" Organization: ZEDAT, Freie =?UTF-8?Q?Universit=C3=A4t?= Berlin References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jl0ixsr.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:08:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874jl0ixsr.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (Loris Bennett's message of "Tue, 15 Aug 2023 09:12:36 +0200") Message-ID: <875y5fyt90.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 160.45.11.110 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 13:32:02 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Loris Bennett writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> "Loris Bennett" writes: >> >>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>> >>>>> From: Loris Bennett >>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group alwa= ys >>>>> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are >>>>> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searc= hed >>>>> for. >>>>>=20 >>>>> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Opening server fu_exchange >>>>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>>>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>>>>=20 >>>>> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>>>>=20 >>>>> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") >>>>>=20 >>>>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>>>>=20 >>>>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>>>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>>>> (quote >>>>> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >>>>> (nnir-search-engine imap) >>>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >>>>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>>> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >>>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Ges= endete Elemente"))))) >>>>>=20 >>>>> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test= ). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I c= an >>>>> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. >>>> >>>> Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? >>> >>> Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is >>> related to the specific select methods. >>> >>> For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above >>> >>> (nntp "fu_news" >>> (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") >>> (remove-prefix nntp) >>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente")))= =20 >>> >>> Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns no >>> messages. >>> >>> However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as GM= X: >>> >>> (nnimap "gmx" >>> (nnimap-stream tls) >>> (remove-prefix "nnimap.") >>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >>>=20=20=20 >>> If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the GMX >>> account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder or = the >>> NNTP groups still fails.=20 >>> >>> Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? >> >> For the exchange server, you should just remove the `nnir-search-engine` >> setting from the definition, it should work find by default. >> >> I don't believe search works for nntp at all -- did it used to? > > > Hmm, perhaps you are right. Maybe it never did. It certainly doesn't > work on a third laptop with Emacs 27.1. Perhaps I am just confusing > newsgroups and mailing lists (and mailing list posing as newsgroups via > Gmane) and it was actually just working for the mailing lists. > > With init.el containing just > > (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) > (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods > (quote > ((nnimap "gmx" > (nnimap-stream tls) > (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) > (nnimap "fu_exchange" > (nnimap-stream tls) > (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de"))))) > (custom-set-variables > ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > '(gnus-verbose 10)) > (custom-set-faces > ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. > ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. > ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. > ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. > ) > > Searching within the GMX mailbox works but not in a newsgroup and the > Exchange mailbox. The following is shown in *Messages*: > > Opening server gmx > Searching nnimap+gmx:Family...done > Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf... > nnimap read 0k from imap.gmx.com > Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf...done > Sorting threads...done > Generating summary...done > Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf... > Opening server fu_exchange > Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done > Group nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf contains no messages > previous-line: Beginning of buffer > Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf... > nnselect-run: gnus-search-run-query on ((search-query-spec (query . emacs= ) (raw)) (search-group-spec (nntp:news.fu-berlin.de comp.emacs))) gave erro= r (gnus-search-config-error gnus-search-config-error No search engine confi= gured for nntp:news.fu-berlin.de) > Group nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf contains no messages > > So I seem to be missing a search engine for the newsgroup, but as we > have established, that probably never worked. However, the search in > the Exchange mailbox just fails without further information, and that > definitely did used to work. Apparently Exchange does not like the character set being used. This is the error message that Exchange generates: SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 TEXT hpc,"R=3D""6487 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] The = specified charset is not supported." I don't quite understand the error, as I would not think US-ASCII was a bad charset. I assume it is more likely that my using a locale with LANG=3Den_US.utf8 might be the problem. This may have been different before I updated Debian. If I search for a string such as "Best=C3=A4tigung" in a folder belonging to the GMX mail box, this also erroneously produces an empty result set. So it looks like it is not an actually problem with Gnus as such. Cheers, Loris --=20 This signature is currently under constuction. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: "Loris Bennett" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.169227128921827 (code B ref 65196); Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Aug 2023 11:21:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42883 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWb4C-0005fx-55 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 07:21:29 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:56005) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWYtt-0007nX-DK for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 05:02:43 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qWYtr-001NHh-OR; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:02:39 +0200 Received: from 130-133-144-203.mna.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.144.203] helo=diaspore) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qWYtr-000rql-Gn; Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:02:39 +0200 From: "Loris Bennett" Organization: ZEDAT, Freie =?UTF-8?Q?Universit=C3=A4t?= Berlin References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jl0ixsr.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <875y5fyt90.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:02:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <875y5fyt90.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (Loris Bennett's message of "Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:08:43 +0200") Message-ID: <878raahwi9.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 130.133.144.203 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 Aug 2023 07:21:27 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Loris Bennett writes: > Loris Bennett writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> "Loris Bennett" writes: >>> >>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>> >>>>>> From: Loris Bennett >>>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group alw= ays >>>>>> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there a= re >>>>>> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string sear= ched >>>>>> for. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Opening server fu_exchange >>>>>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>>>>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >>>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>>>>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>>>>> (quote >>>>>> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >>>>>> (nnir-search-engine imap) >>>>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >>>>>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>>>> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >>>>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Ge= sendete Elemente"))))) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this tes= t). >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I = can >>>>>> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? >>>> >>>> Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is >>>> related to the specific select methods. >>>> >>>> For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above >>>> >>>> (nntp "fu_news" >>>> (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") >>>> (remove-prefix nntp) >>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))= )=20 >>>> >>>> Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns = no >>>> messages. >>>> >>>> However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as G= MX: >>>> >>>> (nnimap "gmx" >>>> (nnimap-stream tls) >>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap.") >>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >>>>=20=20=20 >>>> If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the G= MX >>>> account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder or= the >>>> NNTP groups still fails.=20 >>>> >>>> Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? >>> >>> For the exchange server, you should just remove the `nnir-search-engine` >>> setting from the definition, it should work find by default. >>> >>> I don't believe search works for nntp at all -- did it used to? >> >> >> Hmm, perhaps you are right. Maybe it never did. It certainly doesn't >> work on a third laptop with Emacs 27.1. Perhaps I am just confusing >> newsgroups and mailing lists (and mailing list posing as newsgroups via >> Gmane) and it was actually just working for the mailing lists. >> >> With init.el containing just >> >> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >> (quote >> ((nnimap "gmx" >> (nnimap-stream tls) >> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >> (nnimap "fu_exchange" >> (nnimap-stream tls) >> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de"))))) >> (custom-set-variables >> ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. >> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >> '(gnus-verbose 10)) >> (custom-set-faces >> ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. >> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >> ) >> >> Searching within the GMX mailbox works but not in a newsgroup and the >> Exchange mailbox. The following is shown in *Messages*: >> >> Opening server gmx >> Searching nnimap+gmx:Family...done >> Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf... >> nnimap read 0k from imap.gmx.com >> Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf...done >> Sorting threads...done >> Generating summary...done >> Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf... >> Opening server fu_exchange >> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >> Group nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf contains no messages >> previous-line: Beginning of buffer >> Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf... >> nnselect-run: gnus-search-run-query on ((search-query-spec (query . emac= s) (raw)) (search-group-spec (nntp:news.fu-berlin.de comp.emacs))) gave err= or (gnus-search-config-error gnus-search-config-error No search engine conf= igured for nntp:news.fu-berlin.de) >> Group nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf contains no messages >> >> So I seem to be missing a search engine for the newsgroup, but as we >> have established, that probably never worked. However, the search in >> the Exchange mailbox just fails without further information, and that >> definitely did used to work. > > Apparently Exchange does not like the character set being used. This is > the error message that Exchange generates: > > SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 TEXT hpc,"R=3D""6487 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] Th= e specified charset is not supported." > > I don't quite understand the error, as I would not think US-ASCII was a > bad charset. I assume it is more likely that my using a locale with > > LANG=3Den_US.utf8 > > might be the problem. This may have been different before I updated > Debian. > > If I search for a string such as "Best=C3=A4tigung" in a folder belonging= to > the GMX mail box, this also erroneously produces an empty result set. > > So it looks like it is not an actually problem with Gnus as such. The problem seems to have been resolved by Eric here: https://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english@gnu.org/msg14117.html This works for me. Did the change make it into Gnus? Anyway, thanks for the solution! Cheers, Loris --=20 This signature is currently under constuction. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" Resent-From: "Loris Bennett" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 65196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65196.169235907712785 (code B ref 65196); Fri, 18 Aug 2023 11:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 65196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Aug 2023 11:44:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWxu7-0003K6-2z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:44:37 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]:34387) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qWujp-0003ej-Ao for 65196@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 04:21:46 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qWujn-003AsM-2V; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:21:43 +0200 Received: from hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.11.110] helo=hornfels) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qWujm-000gRj-TL; Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:21:43 +0200 From: "Loris Bennett" Organization: ZEDAT, Freie =?UTF-8?Q?Universit=C3=A4t?= Berlin References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jl0ixsr.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <875y5fyt90.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <878raahwi9.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:21:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878raahwi9.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (Loris Bennett's message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2023 11:02:38 +0200") Message-ID: <87350gbw15.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 160.45.11.110 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 07:44:34 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Loris Bennett writes: > Loris Bennett writes: > >> Loris Bennett writes: >> >>> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >>> >>>> "Loris Bennett" writes: >>>> >>>>> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>>>> >>>>>>> From: Loris Bennett >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group al= ways >>>>>>> says that the search group contains no messages, even though there = are >>>>>>> in fact messages in the original group which contain the string sea= rched >>>>>>> for. >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Opening server fu_exchange >>>>>>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>>>>>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> The configuration in init.el is as follows: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) >>>>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>>>> (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>>>>>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>>>>>> (quote >>>>>>> ((nnimap "fu_exchange" >>>>>>> (nnir-search-engine imap) >>>>>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap") >>>>>>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") >>>>>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>>>>> (nnimap-inbox INBOX) >>>>>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:G= esendete Elemente"))))) >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this te= st). >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I= can >>>>>>> see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew, any comments? Is this perhaps already fixed in Emacs 29? >>>>> >>>>> Further investigation reveal that this is not a general issue, but is >>>>> related to the specific select methods. >>>>> >>>>> For my work setup I actually have, in addition to the settings above >>>>> >>>>> (nntp "fu_news" >>>>> (nntp-address "news.fu-berlin.de") >>>>> (remove-prefix nntp) >>>>> (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente")= ))=20 >>>>> >>>>> Searching in newgroups subscribe to via the above also always returns= no >>>>> messages. >>>>> >>>>> However, in my private setup I have various email providers, such as = GMX: >>>>> >>>>> (nnimap "gmx" >>>>> (nnimap-stream tls) >>>>> (remove-prefix "nnimap.") >>>>> (nnimap-record-commands t) >>>>> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >>>>>=20=20=20 >>>>> If I add this to my work setup, search results within folders in the = GMX >>>>> account *do* produce results. Searching within the Exchange folder o= r the >>>>> NNTP groups still fails.=20 >>>>> >>>>> Is there anything I can do to help debug the problem? >>>> >>>> For the exchange server, you should just remove the `nnir-search-engin= e` >>>> setting from the definition, it should work find by default. >>>> >>>> I don't believe search works for nntp at all -- did it used to? >>> >>> >>> Hmm, perhaps you are right. Maybe it never did. It certainly doesn't >>> work on a third laptop with Emacs 27.1. Perhaps I am just confusing >>> newsgroups and mailing lists (and mailing list posing as newsgroups via >>> Gmane) and it was actually just working for the mailing lists. >>> >>> With init.el containing just >>> >>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) >>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods >>> (quote >>> ((nnimap "gmx" >>> (nnimap-stream tls) >>> (nnimap-address "imap.gmx.com")) >>> (nnimap "fu_exchange" >>> (nnimap-stream tls) >>> (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de"))))) >>> (custom-set-variables >>> ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom. >>> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >>> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >>> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >>> '(gnus-verbose 10)) >>> (custom-set-faces >>> ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. >>> ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. >>> ;; Your init file should contain only one such instance. >>> ;; If there is more than one, they won't work right. >>> ) >>> >>> Searching within the GMX mailbox works but not in a newsgroup and the >>> Exchange mailbox. The following is shown in *Messages*: >>> >>> Opening server gmx >>> Searching nnimap+gmx:Family...done >>> Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf... >>> nnimap read 0k from imap.gmx.com >>> Fetching headers for nnselect:nnselect-871qg4g5d5.fsf...done >>> Sorting threads...done >>> Generating summary...done >>> Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf... >>> Opening server fu_exchange >>> Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done >>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87zg2seqsg.fsf contains no messages >>> previous-line: Beginning of buffer >>> Retrieving newsgroup: nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf... >>> nnselect-run: gnus-search-run-query on ((search-query-spec (query . ema= cs) (raw)) (search-group-spec (nntp:news.fu-berlin.de comp.emacs))) gave er= ror (gnus-search-config-error gnus-search-config-error No search engine con= figured for nntp:news.fu-berlin.de) >>> Group nnselect:nnselect-87y1iceqsc.fsf contains no messages >>> >>> So I seem to be missing a search engine for the newsgroup, but as we >>> have established, that probably never worked. However, the search in >>> the Exchange mailbox just fails without further information, and that >>> definitely did used to work. >> >> Apparently Exchange does not like the character set being used. This is >> the error message that Exchange generates: >> >> SEARCH CHARSET UTF-8 TEXT hpc,"R=3D""6487 NO [BADCHARSET (US-ASCII)] T= he specified charset is not supported." >> >> I don't quite understand the error, as I would not think US-ASCII was a >> bad charset. I assume it is more likely that my using a locale with >> >> LANG=3Den_US.utf8 >> >> might be the problem. This may have been different before I updated >> Debian. >> >> If I search for a string such as "Best=C3=A4tigung" in a folder belongin= g to >> the GMX mail box, this also erroneously produces an empty result set. >> >> So it looks like it is not an actually problem with Gnus as such. > > The problem seems to have been resolved by Eric here: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english@gnu.org/msg14117.html > > This works for me. > > Did the change make it into Gnus? I see that the change is in Emacs 29, so this issue can be closed. Cheers, Loris --=20 This signature is currently under constuction. From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:21:17 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Loris Bennett Subject: bug#65196: closed (Re: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages") Message-ID: References: <83zg2nzavu.fsf@gnu.org> <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 65196 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs,gnus Reply-To: 65196@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 08:37:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1692434221-18933-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1692434221-18933-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" which was filed against the emacs,gnus package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 65196@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 65196: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D65196 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1692434221-18933-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 65196-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2023 08:36:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49367 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXHRx-0004ut-DC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:36:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qXHRw-0004uh-24 for 65196-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:36:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXHRo-0007g0-J8; Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:36:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=zoprbST9b8+4Auq9gTuHRIog6jtxB7TuekT/Sgh3/1g=; b=GErVxsaeu+4W llIgeo9OaqeLPQn0bFloszkL/dCdPnI24Yy0A9GQtJ1mYYqPExGCOdYP2fhyNb/Zbf8MeAzkwimdC fT4MIWRonPGo7nMi61l9VXLeTGqweOCxvuo5oAmJHH+rEog8J6FEpd5KKZe2gwLKhnyM18VR8PkzV QvacE+uK0c/gtVKCNuNqB5xThR2dYtqsagn76DR24h+NSbMxuLNqcISAGyEPMXlv1o9yQ9gzl+kIn TJ/L/NKMdvaV0WwW8jdkUuAVkTF4GJ0zWh0BkxXssly4HsoPqUDaP8U/ZcolakeDkdgZJXyhVOTn2 Ya3UZmTtoJHQZHdjE9JDgg==; Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2023 11:36:53 +0300 Message-Id: <83zg2nzavu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: "Loris Bennett" In-Reply-To: <87350gbw15.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> (loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de) Subject: Re: bug#65196: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" References: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> <83zg2weok6.fsf@gnu.org> <874jl2vz0q.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87h6p1d11d.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jl0ixsr.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <875y5fyt90.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <878raahwi9.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <87350gbw15.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65196-done Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, cohen@andy.bu.edu, 65196-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Loris Bennett" > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andrew G Cohen , > <65196@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 10:21:42 +0200 > > I see that the change is in Emacs 29, so this issue can be closed. Done, thanks. ------------=_1692434221-18933-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2023 08:50:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41327 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qU1NW-0005Ux-42 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:50:46 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:34964) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Q7-0003rV-Fl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:49:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Q1-0007tY-Ky for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:49:17 -0400 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Pz-00059d-Ch for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:49:17 -0400 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Pe-00487E-2n; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:54 +0200 Received: from 130-133-144-203.mna.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.144.203] helo=diaspore) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.95) for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1qU0Pd-002OJF-Rz; Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:54 +0200 From: Loris Bennett To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.2; gnus-group-make-nnir-group always returns "no messages" X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:48:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87msyztk0q.fsf@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Original-Sender: loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de X-Originating-IP: 130.133.144.203 X-ZEDAT-Hint: PO Received-SPF: pass client-ip=130.133.4.66; envelope-from=loris@zedat.fu-berlin.de; helo=outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de X-Spam_score_int: -41 X-Spam_score: -4.2 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 04:50:43 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) After upgrading Debian from 11 to 12, gnus-group-make-nnir-group always says that the search group contains no messages, even though there are in fact messages in the original group which contain the string searched for. In *Messages* somethin like the following will appear: Opening server fu_exchange Searching nnimap+fu_exchange:HPC...done Group nnselect:nnselect-87jzu3z7wb.fsf contains no messages The configuration in init.el is as follows: (setq user-mail-address "loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de") (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it) (setq smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 587) (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.fu-berlin.de")) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods (quote ((nnimap "fu_exchange" (nnir-search-engine imap) (remove-prefix "nnimap") (nnimap-address "mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de") (nnimap-record-commands t) (nnimap-inbox INBOX) (gnus-message-archive-group "nnimap+fu_exchange:Gesendete Elemente"))))) The same problem occurs with nntp groups (not configured in this test). Unfortunately that is all the information I can provide, although I can see that it is probably insufficient to identify the problem. 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