From unknown Tue Jul 08 15:27:37 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#6503 <6503@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#6503 <6503@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: bug#6503 <6503@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 22:27:37 +0000 retitle 6503 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org reassign 6503 emacs submitter 6503 Gregor Zattler severity 6503 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 24 13:09:53 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2010 17:09:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpw0-0004T7-DM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:53 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvx-0004Sz-OQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:50 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:43751) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvt-0008E6-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:45 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54129 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ORpvr-0001cq-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvo-0002Lq-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:43 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:48827) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvo-0002Lf-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:40 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jun 2010 17:09:38 -0000 Received: from p54BF87A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO shi.workgroup) [84.191.135.166] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 24 Jun 2010 19:09:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #19296480 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sC4cN2R7sj+9DlSWMMmVMZ9Z36uMK8n/SZ8uEJx wiDMBRsQ9vQxvE Received: from grfz by shi.workgroup with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvg-0006NH-7A; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:09:32 +0200 From: Gregor Zattler To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) The manual explains how to search for already known bugs in etc/Problems or in the FAQ. Since there is now a online bug tracker for emacs it should be mentioned in the manual. In section "Reporting Bugs" the third paragraph states: > Before reporting a bug, it is a good idea to see if it is already > known. You can find the list of known problems in the file > `etc/PROBLEMS' in the Emacs distribution; type `C-h C-p' to read it. > Some additional user-level problems can be found in *note Bugs and > problems: (efaq)Bugs and problems. Looking up your problem in these > two documents might provide you with a solution or a work-around, or > give you additional information about related issues. I propose the following change after the third sentence: > Before reporting a bug, it is a good idea to see if it is already > known. You can find the list of known problems in the file > `etc/PROBLEMS' in the Emacs distribution; type `C-h C-p' to read it. > Some additional user-level problems can be found in *note Bugs and > problems: (efaq)Bugs and problems.=20=20 If you don't find your bug in these two documents you may also search the emacs bugtracker which is online accessible under http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=3Demacs. Don't feel intimidated by the sheer number of bugs: There is a search form at the end of that page. You may also search for bugs via http://debbugs.gnu.org/index.html#search. Looking up your problem in these sources might provide you with a solution or a work-around, or give you additional information about related issues. Sorry, no patch. Thanks for emacs.=20=20 Regards, Gregor =20 In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-06-19 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20100619-2) Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linu= x-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/usr= /lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=3D/u= sr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs-snaps= hot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/em= acs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp= ' '--without-compress-info' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'buil= d_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN = -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CP= PFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: POSIX value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: gpm-mouse-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t ido-everywhere: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t display-time-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: a c s SPC a n d SPC f l y s p e l l . SPC SPC =20 s SPC f=20 o r SPC y o u r =20 =20 =20 R e g a r d s , SPC g r e g o r =20 =20 M-x m e s s a g e - s e - a=20 C-g =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 M-x m e s s a =20 s e - a y C-g =20 =20 C-s =C3=BC M-x y n y e s =20 M-x Recent messages: Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? (y or n)=20 Quit Auto-saving... cua-scroll-down: Beginning of buffer [3 times] Mark saved where search started Address `grfz@localhost' might be bogus. Continue? (y or n)=20 Convert non-ASCII letters to hexadecimal? (y or n)=20 Sending... Sending via mail... 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25 Jun 2010 19:35:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSEgg-0002kt-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSEgd-0002ko-5y for 6503@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:40 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSEgX-00043r-Hz; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:33 -0400 To: Gregor Zattler Subject: Re: bug#6503: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org References: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: ICE fraud Rule Psix North Korea bomb Ceridian credit card X-Ran: -]4dA,//ArB`xnv)^^sphvg}01J|&g>"Vp%_^d^PV?SC*VzE8{w+3~S_2*<>XmL&I"]xzb X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:33 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6503 Cc: 6503@debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Yes; I have been meaning to update this whole manual section, but have not got round to it yet. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 11 20:32:35 2010 Received: (at 6503-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2010 00:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuaUk-0001Fs-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:32:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuaUi-0001Fn-AW for 6503-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:32:33 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuaWu-0004ai-3Z; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:34:48 -0400 To: 6503-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6503: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org References: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Bellcore George W. Bush Al Jazeera spies counter X-Ran: X%Tc,zRoB!~.]afEofW,e?J{68[75bm=R#Nl5K;LEf+;v=&D]aT?YI3FZY+'qf{PQe_po/ X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:34:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri\, 25 Jun 2010 15\:35\:33 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6503-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) I finally got round to updating the Bugs section of the manual. 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