From unknown Tue Jul 08 12:36:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#6503: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Gregor Zattler Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: rfrancoise@debian.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 6503 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 6503@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: rfrancoise@debian.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.127739939317184 (code B ref -1); Thu, 24 Jun 2010 17:10:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2010 17:09:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpw0-0004T7-DM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:53 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvx-0004Sz-OQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:50 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:43751) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvt-0008E6-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:45 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54129 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ORpvr-0001cq-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvo-0002Lq-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:43 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:48827) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvo-0002Lf-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:40 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jun 2010 17:09:38 -0000 Received: from p54BF87A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO shi.workgroup) [84.191.135.166] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 24 Jun 2010 19:09:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #19296480 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sC4cN2R7sj+9DlSWMMmVMZ9Z36uMK8n/SZ8uEJx wiDMBRsQ9vQxvE Received: from grfz by shi.workgroup with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvg-0006NH-7A; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:09:32 +0200 From: Gregor Zattler Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) The manual explains how to search for already known bugs in etc/Problems or in the FAQ. Since there is now a online bug tracker for emacs it should be mentioned in the manual. In section "Reporting Bugs" the third paragraph states: > Before reporting a bug, it is a good idea to see if it is already > known. You can find the list of known problems in the file > `etc/PROBLEMS' in the Emacs distribution; type `C-h C-p' to read it. > Some additional user-level problems can be found in *note Bugs and > problems: (efaq)Bugs and problems. Looking up your problem in these > two documents might provide you with a solution or a work-around, or > give you additional information about related issues. I propose the following change after the third sentence: > Before reporting a bug, it is a good idea to see if it is already > known. You can find the list of known problems in the file > `etc/PROBLEMS' in the Emacs distribution; type `C-h C-p' to read it. > Some additional user-level problems can be found in *note Bugs and > problems: (efaq)Bugs and problems.=20=20 If you don't find your bug in these two documents you may also search the emacs bugtracker which is online accessible under http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=3Demacs. Don't feel intimidated by the sheer number of bugs: There is a search form at the end of that page. You may also search for bugs via http://debbugs.gnu.org/index.html#search. Looking up your problem in these sources might provide you with a solution or a work-around, or give you additional information about related issues. Sorry, no patch. Thanks for emacs.=20=20 Regards, Gregor =20 In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-06-19 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20100619-2) Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linu= x-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/usr= /lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=3D/u= sr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs-snaps= hot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/em= acs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp= ' '--without-compress-info' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'buil= d_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN = -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CP= PFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: POSIX value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: gpm-mouse-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t ido-everywhere: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t display-time-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: a c s SPC a n d SPC f l y s p e l l . 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emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org In-Reply-To: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6503 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Gregor Zattler Cc: 6503@debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org Received: via spool by 6503-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6503.127749454210598 (code B ref 6503); Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 6503) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jun 2010 19:35:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSEgg-0002kt-8L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:42 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSEgd-0002ko-5y for 6503@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:40 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OSEgX-00043r-Hz; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:33 -0400 References: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: ICE fraud Rule Psix North Korea bomb Ceridian credit card X-Ran: -]4dA,//ArB`xnv)^^sphvg}01J|&g>"Vp%_^d^PV?SC*VzE8{w+3~S_2*<>XmL&I"]xzb X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:33 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Yes; I have been meaning to update this whole manual section, but have not got round to it yet. From unknown Tue Jul 08 12:36:56 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Gregor Zattler Subject: bug#6503: closed (Re: bug#6503: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org) Message-ID: References: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 6503 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 6503@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 00:33:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1284251581-4841-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1284251581-4841-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #6503: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 6503@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 6503: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D6503 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1284251581-4841-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 6503-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2010 00:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuaUk-0001Fs-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:32:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuaUi-0001Fn-AW for 6503-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:32:33 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OuaWu-0004ai-3Z; Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:34:48 -0400 To: 6503-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6503: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org References: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Bellcore George W. Bush Al Jazeera spies counter X-Ran: X%Tc,zRoB!~.]afEofW,e?J{68[75bm=R#Nl5K;LEf+;v=&D]aT?YI3FZY+'qf{PQe_po/ X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:34:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Fri\, 25 Jun 2010 15\:35\:33 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6503-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) I finally got round to updating the Bugs section of the manual. ------------=_1284251581-4841-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2010 17:09:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpw0-0004T7-DM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:53 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvx-0004Sz-OQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:50 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:43751) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvt-0008E6-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:45 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54129 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ORpvr-0001cq-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:44 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvo-0002Lq-PM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:43 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:48827) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvo-0002Lf-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:09:40 -0400 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 24 Jun 2010 17:09:38 -0000 Received: from p54BF87A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO shi.workgroup) [84.191.135.166] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 24 Jun 2010 19:09:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #19296480 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/sC4cN2R7sj+9DlSWMMmVMZ9Z36uMK8n/SZ8uEJx wiDMBRsQ9vQxvE Received: from grfz by shi.workgroup with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ORpvg-0006NH-7A; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:09:32 +0200 From: Gregor Zattler To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; emacs manual does not mention debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:09:32 +0200 Message-ID: <871vbwxsqb.fsf@shi.workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) The manual explains how to search for already known bugs in etc/Problems or in the FAQ. Since there is now a online bug tracker for emacs it should be mentioned in the manual. In section "Reporting Bugs" the third paragraph states: > Before reporting a bug, it is a good idea to see if it is already > known. You can find the list of known problems in the file > `etc/PROBLEMS' in the Emacs distribution; type `C-h C-p' to read it. > Some additional user-level problems can be found in *note Bugs and > problems: (efaq)Bugs and problems. Looking up your problem in these > two documents might provide you with a solution or a work-around, or > give you additional information about related issues. I propose the following change after the third sentence: > Before reporting a bug, it is a good idea to see if it is already > known. You can find the list of known problems in the file > `etc/PROBLEMS' in the Emacs distribution; type `C-h C-p' to read it. > Some additional user-level problems can be found in *note Bugs and > problems: (efaq)Bugs and problems.=20=20 If you don't find your bug in these two documents you may also search the emacs bugtracker which is online accessible under http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?package=3Demacs. Don't feel intimidated by the sheer number of bugs: There is a search form at the end of that page. You may also search for bugs via http://debbugs.gnu.org/index.html#search. Looking up your problem in these sources might provide you with a solution or a work-around, or give you additional information about related issues. Sorry, no patch. Thanks for emacs.=20=20 Regards, Gregor =20 In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-06-19 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20100619-2) Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000 configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linu= x-gnu' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/usr= /lib' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--mandir=3D/u= sr/share/man' '--with-pop=3Dyes' '--enable-locallisppath=3D/etc/emacs-snaps= hot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/em= acs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/24.0.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp= ' '--without-compress-info' '--with-x=3Dyes' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk' 'buil= d_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=3Di486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=3D-DDEBIAN = -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=3D-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CP= PFLAGS=3D'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: POSIX value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: gpm-mouse-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t ido-everywhere: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t display-time-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: a c s SPC a n d SPC f l y s p e l l . 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