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Moreover, what are = the best practices for configuring emacs that don=E2=80=99t require = min-maxing your configuration options every time. =E2=80=94=E2=80=94 I like to configure my emacs install to be as (reasonably) fully = featured as possible, so I peruse the ./configure --help options from = time to time to see if any new packages are available. If I notice a = package I don=E2=80=99t have in my list of --with-package I add it, and = reconfigure.=20 But my configure command is now pretty long, and it strikes me that this = brittle in the face of changes to configure. Suppose there is a change = in best practices, and now --with-FOO is better than --with-BAR, but = because I have --with-BAR (and forgot to remove it), configure won=E2=80=99= t look for FOO. My emacs conf will be slightly suboptimal (perish the = thought!) and I won=E2=80=99t be any the wiser. 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 91cd653e872765b71dab0fda583f0131; Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:31:09 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Jacob Faibussowitsch Subject: Re: bug#65014: Configure Default Values In-Reply-To: <549CA1B8-92E9-426C-9F5F-A4B895718B96@gmail.com> (Jacob Faibussowitsch's message of "Wed, 2 Aug 2023 08:16:19 -0400") References: <549CA1B8-92E9-426C-9F5F-A4B895718B96@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2023 21:31:02 +0800 Message-ID: <87wmydbmg9.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21685 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 1497 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 65014-done Cc: 65014-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Jacob Faibussowitsch writes: > Hello, > > TL;DR: What packages does configure enable by default, i.e. do not > require a --with-PACKAGE flag to explicitly enable? Moreover, what are > the best practices for configuring emacs that don=E2=80=99t require min-m= axing > your configuration options every time. > > =E2=80=94=E2=80=94 > > I like to configure my emacs install to be as (reasonably) fully > featured as possible, so I peruse the ./configure --help options from > time to time to see if any new packages are available. If I notice a > package I don=E2=80=99t have in my list of --with-package I add it, and > reconfigure. > > But my configure command is now pretty long, and it strikes me that > this brittle in the face of changes to configure. Suppose there is a > change in best practices, and now --with-FOO is better than > --with-BAR, but because I have --with-BAR (and forgot to remove it), > configure won=E2=80=99t look for FOO. My emacs conf will be slightly > suboptimal (perish the thought!) and I won=E2=80=99t be any the wiser. > > Best regards, > > Jacob Faibussowitsch > (Jacob Fai - booss - oh - vitch) Hi, questions about building Emacs should be directed to help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, not the bug tracker. To answer them, however, refer to INSTALL, which explains available configuration options in detail. Generally speaking, running `configure' without any arguments will produce an Emacs with a configuration that is reasonable for most users. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:10:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator