From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:15:50 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#6491 <6491@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#6491 <6491@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks Reply-To: bug#6491 <6491@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:15:50 +0000 retitle 6491 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks reassign 6491 emacs submitter 6491 jidanni@jidanni.org severity 6491 wishlist tag 6491 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 22 07:19:38 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2010 11:19:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OR1Vy-0006ff-Ew for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:19:38 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OR1Vu-0006fa-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:19:37 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:56080) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OR1Vm-0003pQ-C2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:19:26 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36594 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OR0lj-0007GW-4e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:31:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OR0lh-0007GN-Qb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:31:51 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcbef.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.145]:48141 helo=homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OR0lh-0007Fx-Ln for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 06:31:49 -0400 Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CABD51C069 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:31:48 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s=jidanni.org ; b=SAk7AJubMMTHFMW4MA/xiDjrjiHgMLNAwZCDg+Sao8z16f3UX40w2nvTBmYq rWqqLPSKBr3Ef/LsPnqDUlqtK0Ara67RQf/WtTY4EtqmW+31ammgfnvDjwwZBeeM bgVqS4x5zaLXvFg4ht6fVR8moyHFg5WG6BbJv6XJXGWpiIk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=XhvsolhtJ4ZIwBfXVTDBsM5eq3k=; b=NtCNbDJakUZvJVaW dtbAy1XYS+1qa80FIJXaYxO2JpmXMo3J7hhDvFyktG+pNH72iJ0PhWqm/1jAl//r TiWzU2Y6lRC1LKnh1ZFqd3E61rBShcMqglxpYMrUv1eJ8mW7R9u/MBIg3EtdXyC2 PLx/MKowinOm6zwj2d5LXuD0jbU= Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-0-163.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.0.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD07A51C05F for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2010 03:31:47 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:51:13 +0800 Message-ID: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) !v runs the command Buffer-menu-select, which is an interactive !compiled Lisp function in `buff-menu.el'. ! !It is bound to v, . ! !(Buffer-menu-select) ! !Select this line's buffer; also display buffers marked with `>'. !You can mark buffers with the m command. !This command deletes and replaces all the previously existing windows !in the selected frame. The problem is 1) when me make marks with m, the cursor moves down, so we have to move the cursor back up unless we want our v command to pull in an unrelated buffer. Well OK, just make the last keystroke a v instead of a m, as 2) our marks get thrown away anyway at the next invocation of list-buffers... which is in fact why I'm writing this bug, even though I know there are many replacements for list-buffers. OK, never mind. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-06-20 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20100619-2) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 13 19:51:28 2011 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2011 23:51:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh9DE-00017g-II for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:51:28 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh9D8-00016w-H5 for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:51:23 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh9Cu-0007S4-0m; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:51:08 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: jidanni@jidanni.org Subject: Re: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks In-Reply-To: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> (jidanni@jidanni.org's message of "Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:51:13 +0800") Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 01:33:20 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Depeche Mode's _A Broken Frame_: "Leave in Silence" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110713:6491@debbugs.gnu.org::x6MI37ihasRUwLUG:000000000000000000000000000000000000000006WaS X-Hashcash: 1:23:110713:jidanni@jidanni.org::yJocxiGcErF0WZy+:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000B7n/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qh9Cu-0007S4-0m X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311205868.19817@EYFuB5rD6NytKP0bK5C4xA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) jidanni@jidanni.org writes: > The problem is 1) when me make marks with m, the cursor moves down, so > we have to move the cursor back up unless we want our v command to pull > in an unrelated buffer. It's so you can mark a lot of buffers fast. > Well OK, just make the last keystroke a v instead of a m, as 2) our marks > get thrown away anyway at the next invocation of list-buffers... which > is in fact why I'm writing this bug, even though I know there are many > replacements for list-buffers. OK, never mind. I think it may be logical for the marks to go away if you re-list the buffers, but I'm not sure. Does anybody have an opinion on this? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 13 19:59:02 2011 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2011 23:59:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh9KX-0001JJ-6y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:59:01 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh9KV-0001J8-JW for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 19:59:00 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet22.oracle.com (rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6DNwplU008533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:58:53 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by rtcsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6DNwo76010602 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:58:51 GMT Received: from abhmt102.oracle.com (abhmt102.oracle.com [141.146.116.54]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6DNwiec007505; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:58:44 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:58:44 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" , References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> Subject: RE: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcxBt/HkJ6+pIYXnT1Gz/ADxggNr6AAAELjw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090208.4E1E313D.00DE:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) > I think it may be logical for the marks to go away if you re-list the > buffers, but I'm not sure. Does anybody have an opinion on this? Relisting (e.g. `g') does erase all marks in *Buffer List*. I'm not sure it should, however. Seems to me that Dired should perhaps be the model here, and `g' does *not* erase marks in Dired. It is easy enough to erase all marks in the buffer list: `M->' followed by leaning on the Backspace key. However, we could also add a key to erase all marks. Dired does that with `M-DEL RET'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 11:30:49 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2011 15:30:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhNsG-00027N-Pi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:30:48 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhNsF-00027C-Gv for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:30:47 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QhNs4-0000vL-LI for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:30:36 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 17:30:36 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #7519 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QhNs4-0000vL-LI X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311262236.88767@rDodGxF+crzuYf/xlnWivQ X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) forcemerge 7519 6491 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 16:19:45 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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16 Jul 2011 20:20:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiBLH-0000B5-GX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:20:03 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiBLF-0000Ai-59 for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:20:01 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QiBL1-0004ZZ-Nt; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:19:47 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks In-Reply-To: <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:58:47 -0700") Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:19:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Laurie Freelove's _Songs From The Nineline_: "Arms Of A dream" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:jidanni@jidanni.org::Xh4rGWN5anRN1U25:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000008c5l X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:drew.adams@oracle.com::hAn15dmcF0TvY+lW:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000eYn9 X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:6491@debbugs.gnu.org::cuLPdHrRFoK3HicC:00000000000000000000000000000000000000001cUMb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QiBL1-0004ZZ-Nt X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311452388.19096@/YpRYHQRhdhwaGVocD8Fzw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > I'm not sure it should, however. Seems to me that Dired should perhaps be the > model here, and `g' does *not* erase marks in Dired. Makes sense. However, this is a feature change and not really a bug, so I'm moving this one over to "wishlist". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 13 16:58:36 2019 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Oct 2019 20:58:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iJkwm-0004B7-1Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:58:36 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:38884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iJkwk-0004Ap-5O for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 16:58:34 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iJkwd-0005Qk-FI; Sun, 13 Oct 2019 22:58:31 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 22:58:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:58:47 -0700") Message-ID: <87v9ss747g.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Drew Adams" writes: >> I think it may be logical for the marks to go away if you re-list the >> buffers, but I'm not sure. Does anybody have an opinion on this? > > Relisting (e.g. `g') does erase all marks in *Buffer Li [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Drew Adams" writes: >> I think it may be logical for the marks to go away if you re-list the >> buffers, but I'm not sure. Does anybody have an opinion on this? > > Relisting (e.g. `g') does erase all marks in *Buffer List*. > > I'm not sure it should, however. Seems to me that Dired should perhaps be the > model here, and `g' does *not* erase marks in Dired. I've now made this change in Emacs 27. As for `v' removing the marks -- it's done that since forever, as far as I can see, and it's done on purpose, so I think making it stop doing that might be a behavioural change that won't be welcome. But I don't know -- does anybody have an opinion? It's trivial to fix. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 17 23:14:06 2019 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2019 03:14:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49113 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLIiL-0002bW-Tq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 23:14:06 -0400 Received: from brown.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.23]:16862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLIiI-0002az-Q6 for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 23:14:04 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D8B5A09FD; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 03:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-6-135.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.6.135]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EB2F65A0E1F; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 03:13:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a38.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Fri, 18 Oct 2019 03:14:00 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Scare-Absorbed: 2eabb4507117284d_1571368440363_1675046740 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1571368440363:2914345129 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1571368440362 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790039502D; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 20:13:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=vbzNd8S8Z3phFl6fzQ0/TLk4qeI=; b=MkXD3EUfzDzYr ojbs5F+G+1iiPbwORm5jlswqnEDyl/AzS+U8buHI7HPAxjvFhpfGqUUGkpG33tJ6 C3IfQL4ESndpoyieJRqb//NKB35BeCuiWGv7aDwATnbNhrUU8rGNzAQFnb9yDxyb yMDLK9KcG0mZ1GKrxVoaGdjLZCgSW8= Received: from jidanni.org (39-10-37-167.adsl.fetnet.net [39.10.37.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a38.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 56D3195043; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 20:13:53 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a38 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> <87v9ss747g.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 11:11:35 +0800 Message-ID: <87h846n3x4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: LI> "Drew Adams" writes: >>> I think it may be logical for the marks to go away if you re-list the >>> buffers, but I'm not sure. Does anybody have an opinion on this? >> >> Relisting (e.g. `g') does erase all marks in *Buffer List*. >> >> I'm not sure it should, however. Seems to me that Dired should perhaps be the >> model here, and `g' does *not* erase marks in Dired. LI> I've now made this change in Emacs 27. LI> As for `v' removing the marks -- it's done that since forever, as far as LI> I can see, and it's done on purpose, so I think making it stop doing LI> that might be a behavioural change that won't be welcome. LI> But I don't know -- does anybody have an opinion? It's trivial to fix. Docstring ""v runs the command Buffer-menu-select (found in Buffer-menu-mode-map),"" doesn't even mention it throws away the marks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 17 23:49:06 2019 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2019 03:49:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLJGD-0003SD-Ui for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 23:49:06 -0400 Received: from [80.91.231.51] (port=43170 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLJGB-0003S3-V4 for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2019 23:49:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iLJG7-0000PO-1K; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:49:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> <87v9ss747g.fsf@gnus.org> <87h846n3x4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:48:58 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h846n3x4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Fri, 18 Oct 2019 11:11:35 +0800") Message-ID: <87eezak91x.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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[URIs: jidanni.org] 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Docstring ""v runs the command Buffer-menu-select (found in > Buffer-menu-mode-map),"" > doesn't even mention it throws away the marks. No, but it's common (in some modes) to first mark a bunch of stuff, and then when you execute the command on those marked things, the marks are cleared so that you can then mark some other things and do some stuff on them. Dired is one mode that doesn't work like that, but it's not the only mode in Emacs. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 18 00:30:57 2019 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2019 04:30:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49155 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLJuj-0004WW-7z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 00:30:57 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:47634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iLJuh-0004W1-6X for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 00:30:55 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x9I4SuH1034214; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:48 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2019-08-05; bh=vqLntoV11TXVLnYvp3zHl1cApJvtVIKz9GTl8dTlW40=; b=DaHX/VO6mFqM7Mk1BAMkUZvf+nJPdJcwwqOiGQV0qTszUGgONTEyTda4/vO0L/wGEvuK vceflgkRA50GgMT98WKBgTEYvRmPHxPAtxRC6ED+WgDhhauKRTYNfKIJfbZ8aFV3mMfi cmmUhpgIKXlSWT1YDreDwjk8HA8zwfirqx+wBBT68WjYKHrxLGdCovMX4Aj3TUOxRNUf +5kDNvsOy14FI8MubXt/BJ4CrDRFiaLpvYthJ/1DueQYtN6Sz8HiFNyrRvjX/sOwBWqq TxfpoCuHrebZpLn+eP3JQJSsn3xO9exb9fqUcgHQPCNCP7r7Nb0KxsMEY5M/ww6Jl5II JA== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2vq0q498ha-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:48 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.27/8.16.0.27) with SMTP id x9I4Ss7Y109314; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:47 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2vq0dx1cne-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:47 +0000 Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x9I4UjLp003600; Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:46 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <941e77a7-3d7e-4423-985a-59f1c292384d@default> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:30:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Drew Adams To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8IERhbiBKYWNvYnNvbg==?= Subject: RE: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> <87v9ss747g.fsf@gnus.org> <87h846n3x4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> <87eezak91x.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87eezak91x.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4900.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9413 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1910180043 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9413 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1910180043 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6491 Cc: 6491@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > Docstring ""v runs the command Buffer-menu-select (found in > > Buffer-menu-mode-map),"" > > doesn't even mention it throws away the marks. >=20 > No, but it's common (in some modes) Which ones? Maybe they should change, to take advantage of the other (superior ;-)) behavior. Do they have a notion of updating - does `g' update them in some way? Or does it just reset them? A file listing is a perfect case for having `g' update - sync with the world outside the buffer state. That you can do that but keep other aspects of the buffer state is a plus. Maybe the modes you have in mind do not have any notion of updating, so `g' just does a total reset? If not, they might be candidates for upgrading to the Dired-like behavior. ;-) > to first mark a bunch of stuff, and > then when you execute the command on those marked things, the marks are > cleared so that you can then mark some other things and do some stuff > on them. That's only useful when it's necessary because no one provided an alternative. And it's only necessary if the mode doesn't have a simple way to clear the marks on demand. (`M-DEL RET' in Dired.) Separating clearing marks from syncing the buffer is a plus. There's no good reason to hard-couple the two - unless reverting does no updating, i.e., unless it's essentially just clearing marks. > Dired is one mode that doesn't work like that, but it's not the only > mode in Emacs. It's not the only one, but it's a good one. And it's clearly the closest one to the behavior of `list-buffers'. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 07 06:56:43 2020 Received: (at 6491) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2020 10:56:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k403H-0008Q7-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 06:56:43 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:38048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k403F-0008Pq-PW for 6491@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 06:56:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=S+EZ0I+3FUJZugO9ROLcv0sHwM02ySvZp5ZvXRmT0SM=; b=i4+XTPGMgwbnzhjcCOgPQVs87v At7BMwJJpBv0s7U3kFC7164rIT4TzoX/ON9/bXPUG0+yD1jv01fSGQmxZ8HpndOon4XUqOU2ChVWX EOzofXC2f9fajhKNcYdEBXkRmaBZ60pYRS010zbwvqSVo12drTFGCsKaXA2u6azZ7MhQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k4035-0006Bp-MW; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 12:56:34 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#6491: 24.0.50; list-buffers should not throw away marks References: <87d3vjqtta.fsf@jidanni.org> <5C89778B3B7B41ED879CE82090933E46@us.oracle.com> <87v9ss747g.fsf@gnus.org> <87h846n3x4.7.fsf@jidanni.org> <87eezak91x.fsf@gnus.org> <941e77a7-3d7e-4423-985a-59f1c292384d@default> <874l06mwv1.7.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2020 12:56:30 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874l06mwv1.7.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:44:02 +0800") Message-ID: <87364y4tcx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > At least the docstring should say what is going to happen. I've now done so in Emacs 28. 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