From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:31:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#64517: Looking for manuals in Info within Emacs Resent-From: uzibalqa Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 64517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 64517@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16887452049752 (code B ref -1); Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:54:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2023 15:53:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43651 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHnls-0002XD-53 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:53:24 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:46320) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHnlp-0002X3-MD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:53:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHnlg-0004NV-5V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:53:13 -0400 Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHnlc-0004li-6M for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 11:53:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:52:56 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1688745185; x=1689004385; bh=IYGNObIpXijpC58DvP/uMMWMl8Cq9ut3SJk6Rdci4es=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=PffklerK0vBHYjozN71YtHjy4XEDXTzwb7cRvcn9pu1jc+C6Fa53Wc3Eol918zNo8 rz3v2pJSgp5Kxp8QrYRdBSBOCZjMFHa3qvh/+S8+UkIN+rTlUKyoaW/6VkdncSU9ts ap6ffUzW4o0xRi6B2xGcj+CEEe/DY6d2u1yA7GNNFvmB7hzdONF991mE80YsmF+QHO rXszVFU7MbPtHLq1e6yS6ApQz+4xcrCsTEdhzZZD6cP3gF/RCJRpgDMjsZTOpQBOds 1EMo8aqD2cMtYxetgjA61u0vWscltKZxF+9H9aErgSDJNgPORcmE84dMRpwIyIxuTR jpO/aBLi97Fpw== From: uzibalqa Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.25; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4325.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Currently looking for manuals in Info within emacs is not so straightforwar= d. The following gets you to the elisp reference manual C-h i m elisp So why not also have the following for accessing the elisp intro C-h i m elisp intro ; (instead of "C-h i m emacs lisp intro") This would improve naming consistency "elisp" is the reference, "elisp intr= o" is the intro. I further suggest having C-h i m emacs manual C-h i m elisp manual C-h i m elisp intro manual So that everybody will know it is a reference to manuals. From unknown Mon Aug 18 11:31:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#64517: Looking for manuals in Info within Emacs Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 18:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64517 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: uzibalqa Cc: 64517@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 64517-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64517.168875350222753 (code B ref 64517); Fri, 07 Jul 2023 18:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 64517) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2023 18:11:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHpvi-0005uu-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:11:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49936) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qHpvd-0005ua-Ji; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:11:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHpvY-00016R-2n; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:11:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=pgTf9ummc0m3mzvhUOsCMTnb1BrXxyS+ksOqeMiTEGk=; b=qkEBaFFOlyK8 5w4pQBCwYIbLuyK1noCxsEUNIdAeQufCQNEpJtze2btye5teyQIBX7E/l1I4yaR0Wc5Rttf2egAUB jdEk4LUxq9bslz7pAMGrpbpkAiyHy7xmdp3tI5nrEznOh5R0gAtjSCQ+pCbozEoAHWYTkCIrOmT0j iiP+mym8mr+mq90QGw3SfQfynyQxgpw4AM0OOWzcsXs+nB/+BEq/VA+IGJdjV5wrIplWbhCHVluW7 L/OL7X1vR9poBtqROS7Vqdg6bToVzNz6zeF7vOKmSymTmr9joYyOc3uS8ZIuAQ2RWktx9lgNiVsJt 0PC2n8wGCaghxXwFMKDd4g==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qHpvX-00052b-Jq; Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:11:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 21:11:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83zg47egmh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 64517 wontfix close 64517 thanks > Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:52:56 +0000 > From: uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > Currently looking for manuals in Info within emacs is not so straightforward. > > The following gets you to the elisp reference manual > > C-h i m elisp > > So why not also have the following for accessing the elisp intro > > C-h i m elisp intro ; (instead of "C-h i m emacs lisp intro") > > This would improve naming consistency "elisp" is the reference, "elisp intro" > is the intro. There's no consistency here: the menus are called according to the titles of the corresponding manuals, that's all. > I further suggest having > > C-h i m emacs manual > C-h i m elisp manual > C-h i m elisp intro manual > > So that everybody will know it is a reference to manuals. The menu is human-readable and each manual has a description. I see no reason to make it less useful by making it "consistent". Closing this non-bug.