From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 28 12:25:35 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2023 16:25:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51480 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qEXz4-0003kN-Vu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:25:35 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:35044) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qEXz1-0003kD-Eq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:25:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qEXyz-0002jr-V3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:25:31 -0400 Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qEXyy-00057W-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:25:29 -0400 Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5E34119E6D1; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:25:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 28.2 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: tom@logand.com To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.2; describe-function shows wrong arguments Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:25:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87fs6b4kr8.fsf@logand.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi, I have noticed that describe-function sometimes shows wrong arguments. Example: (describe-function 'call-process-shell-command) shows (call-process-shell-command COMMAND &optional INFILE BUFFER DISPLAY) but the function is defined as follows: (defun call-process-shell-command (command &optional infile buffer display &rest args) Cheers, Tomas In GNU Emacs 28.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) System Description: NixOS 22.11 (Raccoon) Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/nix/store/6wsl2kxw9vdhx79lvaprpil33vrvhgwp-emacs-28.2 --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=no --with-xft --with-cairo --with-native-compilation --without-toolkit-scroll-bars' Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY OLDXMENU PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF X11 XDBE XIM XPM ZLIB Important settings: value of $EMACSLOADPATH: value of $EMACSNATIVELOADPATH: 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c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RjMWXwBFR8mBOkno8YiL5Cg61mUjvE16FvILSrXsPH8=; b=TChBwam4FFXn kKI1S3LGz8KemAT1mu0ni0ik5lNEhP4L2iEf4B7AgX3lScO5SAj2TDkoGR5Rn+7OMgJnZ5XmJO6W4 BRvHesvxEjrMMfjrrMwlwJbeWGTN5RsDBJksVDTIoOmxKZ81tpAVefbRroUnuaOvdWcNlXhBPc6jZ gPWC4MquSDcWDKMCMtea4wcBBqfj4pZd5pjxizjButkdQ5haQzqD83Md6m46bi80FcgEJHkYTOW1E dVmIMqFidaEWWcyNXvmYASC8V3wJMCM+h2vqc4S/mjhOSj/2YuEbV1S395lc0BTnF91cAUcq2uBwA 28gBo5QkG3K1YjVgEJtZEw==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qEY7i-0001je-Js; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:34:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:34:55 +0300 Message-Id: <835y77v93k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: tom@logand.com In-Reply-To: <87fs6b4kr8.fsf@logand.com> (tom@logand.com) Subject: Re: bug#64328: 28.2; describe-function shows wrong arguments References: <87fs6b4kr8.fsf@logand.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64328 Cc: 64328@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 64328 notabug thanks > From: tom@logand.com > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:25:15 +0200 > > I have noticed that describe-function sometimes shows wrong arguments. > Example: > > (describe-function 'call-process-shell-command) > > shows > > (call-process-shell-command COMMAND &optional INFILE BUFFER DISPLAY) > > but the function is defined as follows: > > (defun call-process-shell-command (command &optional infile buffer display > &rest args) That's on purpose: we want the function to be called as describe-function says, not as the source code says. This is called "advertised calling convention". This is not a bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 28 12:45:29 2023 Received: (at 64328) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2023 16:45:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qEYIK-0005eb-UK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:45:29 -0400 Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:34468) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qEYIG-0005Nd-4W for 64328@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:45:28 -0400 Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1AFFC19E6D7; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:45:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 28.2 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) From: Tomas Hlavaty To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#64328: 28.2; describe-function shows wrong arguments In-Reply-To: <835y77v93k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fs6b4kr8.fsf@logand.com> <835y77v93k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:45:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87bkgz4jtq.fsf@logand.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64328 Cc: 64328@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Wed 28 Jun 2023 at 19:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > That's on purpose: we want the function to be called as > describe-function says, not as the source code says. This is called > "advertised calling convention". interesting > This is not a bug. sorry for the noise From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 28 14:31:57 2023 Received: (at 64328-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2023 18:31:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qEZxN-0003ui-Di for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:31:57 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qEZxL-0003uW-NI for 64328-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:31:56 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qEZx5-0005h0-Co; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:31:49 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=HE2g/BcqHUVUUnin+A/SIZ+xQC2YPl7uTR3eHPkB5EE=; b=PshE0mpgJ4BA juyw2Js6Ec5z8bCjOJy7MjtbUPy8qr8XzJeQzSU1H3DQzhtbHQ9aggZKTOOEJTlbNi9uVKn85XF5e l1l+OzAmLq235LwDJRkWou/5qhTXqm1GG+0iOjeA4kSs0S6JvjJMZT22pz+j4bUKUFUOIaNZwAyew Dt0meudPeuqmmsFILp0gwp9MUeeholZr1d/+ZR5xq8lFCsyzZrpcga59j03nLcw65m8VHCxAphf8J rC9hQGOzn15IM2Sgh2lctjqR5vproxHriuFRefk/g2rvcmRgtRNU4fKzwvIY30t8Ctn6ivZZeqxAA Dts/noVQStf6ryWasvJsYA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qEZx4-0002RT-TE; Wed, 28 Jun 2023 14:31:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 21:32:05 +0300 Message-Id: <83352bv3oa.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Tomas Hlavaty In-Reply-To: <87bkgz4jtq.fsf@logand.com> (message from Tomas Hlavaty on Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:45:21 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#64328: 28.2; describe-function shows wrong arguments References: <87fs6b4kr8.fsf@logand.com> <835y77v93k.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkgz4jtq.fsf@logand.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64328-done Cc: 64328-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Tomas Hlavaty > Cc: 64328@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:45:21 +0200 > > On Wed 28 Jun 2023 at 19:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > That's on purpose: we want the function to be called as > > describe-function says, not as the source code says. This is called > > "advertised calling convention". > > interesting > > > This is not a bug. > > sorry for the noise No sweat. I'm therefore closing this bug. From unknown Wed Jun 25 05:41:09 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator