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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: PH0PR11MB7470.namprd11.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ebb47643-1a17-4d7f-fc0f-08db75d23c11 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 25 Jun 2023 23:16:41.4076 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN7PR11MB6897 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:111:f400:fe59::81f; envelope-from=one.last.kiss@outlook.com; helo=NAM12-DM6-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) The following code seems fine semantically and grammatically:=0A= =0A= ;; -*- lexical-binding: nil; -*-=0A= (named-let f ((n 1))=0A= (dotimes (i n)=0A= (f 0)))=0A= =0A= But it throws error.=0A= =0A= Perhaps we should clarify that =93=91named-let=92 works as expected only=0A= when =91lexical-binding=92 is enabled=94 in relevant doc?=0A= =0A= --=0A= shynur= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 26 08:19:26 2023 Received: (at 64290) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2023 12:19:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44713 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDlBm-0003jU-5j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:19:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56914) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDlBi-0003jG-IF for 64290@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:19:23 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDlBb-0000BP-RF; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:19:15 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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In-Reply-To: <83y1k6wh48.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 26 Jun 2023 15:19:35 +0300") Message-ID: References: <83y1k6wh48.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:59:13 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL 0.126 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE -0.01 - X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64290 Cc: Shynur Xie , 64290@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) >> The following code seems fine semantically and grammatically: >>=20 >> ;; -*- lexical-binding: nil; -*- >> (named-let f ((n 1)) >> (dotimes (i n) >> (f 0))) >>=20 >> But it throws error. >>=20 >> Perhaps we should clarify that =E2=80=9C=E2=80=98named-let=E2=80=99 work= s as expected only >> when =E2=80=98lexical-binding=E2=80=99 is enabled=E2=80=9D in relevant d= oc? > > Stefan, any comments? That or adding a check in `named-let` and raise an error when applicable. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 26 11:43:05 2023 Received: (at 64290-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2023 15:43:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDoMq-0003kq-OC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:43:05 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52548) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qDoMo-0003kJ-Dd for 64290-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:43:03 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDoMi-0003fJ-4G; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:42:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=OPiJQHjY/9aI7LAGByvECiOnI7S87mjOsEph4f1sEsY=; b=CcNxF24Na/0bJ9Rq8Hss ckX3KtRqp3x7TptdgecZaR2rrvTes1FzcM0+2EVhQkaoJ4Q9dTF/pExmSvd2NRphbaoOTnyktqLMe EeMnF8LfVLqsJMocY3FfC3NXEw3Xfxaz8tzd/cagtVE+coV7/+mI+hpkhb5OQQ1mFNz5bJ9ONu4K1 mDET57l3wKDFNbADoi4uICLyZp5deJdPfReF9PwVJbTOlfBo7zzy/mCfFxjj+48ACyqTJ90WYAjZG kwesPFDV+Pbu3wUU6eW0SXvZ8BAKXTJDYwk2dEV6SbEXZzeh89ERcG3RVp6bU2SgeRBiGSWdhLvXW zDgYnrJieM8vvA==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qDoMU-0007bP-QD; Mon, 26 Jun 2023 11:42:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 18:43:03 +0300 Message-Id: <83pm5iw7p4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:59:13 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#64290: =?utf-8?B?4oCcbmFtZWQtbGV04oCd?= doc bug? References: <83y1k6wh48.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64290-done Cc: one.last.kiss@outlook.com, 64290-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Shynur Xie , 64290@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:59:13 -0400 > > >> The following code seems fine semantically and grammatically: > >> > >> ;; -*- lexical-binding: nil; -*- > >> (named-let f ((n 1)) > >> (dotimes (i n) > >> (f 0))) > >> > >> But it throws error. > >> > >> Perhaps we should clarify that “‘named-let’ works as expected only > >> when ‘lexical-binding’ is enabled” in relevant doc? > > > > Stefan, any comments? > > That or adding a check in `named-let` and raise an error when applicable. I went with the former on the release branch. I think raising an error is only appropriate for the master branch, if we even think it's a good idea. From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator