From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 15 08:03:59 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2010 12:03:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OOUs2-0001WC-T8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:03:59 -0400 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OOSNG-0008Ct-Cw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:24:03 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:49847) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OOSND-0000t9-Dz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:23:59 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54529 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OOSNA-0002k5-RB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:23:58 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OOSN8-0004Zy-It for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:23:56 -0400 Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:43788) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OOSN8-0004ZY-ER for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:23:54 -0400 Received: by iwn1 with SMTP id 1so5769881iwn.0 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:23:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/AjzyeY3jMibYQ6P3kxJ4INtgF/qk03GabXZQJml0Dc=; b=K9OaCJLiKtvbPf4UuwkM8GvnixVcYkZFdh/gBEmvei4zbG7w8T007A5vEtGlXsm1Bb K7jtPddR195O/bW69pxXfNkm4OPHMX4mWKDE9s1NfIQ3kaQ3FHiPn41gB/opNHJ4TLNY c5QYtHgFz6nuWcKNGgCRqZCYJKU62DnqLsxhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Xo6QfB8hNOnrP7rN7KdZDfX3p2OzSCxppnsNW3013Rm3oqU901nkS8KX/ZGZxAtavp In6PRp1AmayhoWjFMRdj4ig4LLHnxRrhEyNrs06I2l4JrPVsSOQYGPBne7QSR1lkl96g hJEO4gqTNFioEYCeZr+dtaroYo1r7KNPUa/x8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.0.204 with SMTP id 12mr2349581icd.87.1276593829801; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.65 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:23:49 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: 23.2; Scrollbars slow emacs down From: DPX-Infinity To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 08:03:58 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Steps to reproduce: - Launch emacs if it is not launched - Toggle scrollbars mode if it is turned off - Open new buffer or empty file and try to type something You'll get a latency between key press and text output. If you hold the key, this behaviour will be more noticeable. Opening a file which fills even a half of the window helps. This happens either when scrollbar is on the right side or on the left. Turning scrollbars off helps. First, this problem appears only in large windows, 200x80 symbols or so. Second, it depends more on window height than on width: when you split the window horizontally, this effect is reduced, but vertical split does nothing. Third, the more the amount of text is in the window, the better the performance is. It seems, that it depends not only on one window, but on all windows that are on the screen now: e.g., if you split window and load some file which fills one of the windows, you'll notice that this effect is reduced. Finally, if you turn off scrollbars mode this problem completely vanishes: text typing becomes as smooth as always. I also haven't met this behaviour in older versions. I don't remember when exactly this behaviour started, but it certainly was normal in 22.x branch. 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Content preview: DPX-Infinity writes: > Steps to reproduce: > - Launch emacs if it is not launched > - Toggle scrollbars mode if it is turned off > - Open new buffer or empty file and try to type something > You'll get a latency between k [...] Content analysis details: (1.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.221.50 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (stefankangas[at]gmail.com) 0.2 FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN 2nd level domains in From and EnvelopeFrom freemail headers are different 1.3 PDS_NO_HELO_DNS High profile HELO but no A record X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6429 Cc: 6429@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) DPX-Infinity writes: > Steps to reproduce: > - Launch emacs if it is not launched > - Toggle scrollbars mode if it is turned off > - Open new buffer or empty file and try to type something > You'll get a latency between key press and text output. If you > hold the key, this behaviour will be more noticeable. Opening a file > which fills even a half of the window helps. This happens either when > scrollbar is on the right side or on the left. Turning scrollbars off helps. > > First, this problem appears only in large windows, 200x80 symbols or > so. Second, it depends more on window height than on width: when > you split the window horizontally, this effect is reduced, but vertical > split does nothing. Third, the more the amount of text is in the > window, the better the performance is. It seems, that it depends not > only on one window, but on all windows that are on the screen now: e.g., > if you split window and load some file which fills one of the windows, > you'll notice that this effect is reduced. Finally, if you turn off > scrollbars mode this problem completely vanishes: text typing becomes as > smooth as always. I also haven't met this behaviour in older > versions. I don't remember when exactly this behaviour started, but it > certainly was normal in 22.x branch. Hi, I've tried to reproduce this using the latest version of Emacs (26.2) but have been unable to do so. I see that this bug was reported 9 years ago. Can you still reproduce it on the newest version of Emacs? I can see in the bug report some minor-modes that would not have been enabled by default. If you can still reproduce this, could you please provide an exact recipe to do so starting from "emacs -Q"? If I don't hear back from you in a couple of weeks, I'll just close this as unreproducible. Thanks, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 02 10:26:25 2019 Received: (at 6429) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2019 14:26:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57521 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYVk-0001p1-U2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:26:25 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com ([209.85.221.43]:41055) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYVj-0001og-Dh for 6429@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:26:23 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id c2so74160871wrm.8 for <6429@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 07:26:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9OUMkID3SNty7WkaGN+8y+iGez7gl7XhZyRKdzyqcZs=; b=jNldIoklYmHYb1XzJdr6p1HRtjPUEN0b9U9hdWAACphdnj5MwyvxRsjwkkZJrEOP/A QkloJh916gxlal05XQD5pIQ5pM3NYIlkzTY5cdbj0x2NWA565sqCs5+PKqwDlcuSB3B2 B3IkyKSm7MrOIwXvjGnqlCg9b0oG1Uxb0NCoHmiAZY15M0qfHvIonfasGhlx626ltdjO dl2+MRkQta/YgreNsljSwf58epGFpyU3yk+9DHdZiPSucneogACYjZqVZG9yAaFx+2gG +UzlXiMKy7VMNT0l1MKt4OniFAkD1HAKGXAZAIGGrmD3zAESLGt8IzyMejyK6m9REWxD DQ0g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVZiWPjGvzbqqnKLWrTLJ3hp6Hvvqhc7sjuDvH2UCBZC1Xh/GnM EwcHlo0+R6O6XfLaBONqaleZjB4J4XzuEQq0BzQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxp2jB0EbctzjAz8yDDrJyprmi2SZ8a5e9BJAhMxWbxhZjFGvxnK/sAmbI5EnOBj07ra4adN1qx5gvD7B4tpIg= X-Received: by 2002:adf:eec4:: with SMTP id a4mr137565117wrp.85.1564755977759; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 07:26:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Stefan Kangas Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 16:26:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#6429: 23.2; Scrollbars slow emacs down To: DPX-Infinity Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6429 Cc: 6429@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) tags 6429 + unreproducible close 6429 quit Stefan Kangas writes: > DPX-Infinity writes: > > > Steps to reproduce: > > - Launch emacs if it is not launched > > - Toggle scrollbars mode if it is turned off > > - Open new buffer or empty file and try to type something > > You'll get a latency between key press and text output. If you > > hold the key, this behaviour will be more noticeable. Opening a file > > which fills even a half of the window helps. This happens either when > > scrollbar is on the right side or on the left. Turning scrollbars off helps. > > > > First, this problem appears only in large windows, 200x80 symbols or > > so. Second, it depends more on window height than on width: when > > you split the window horizontally, this effect is reduced, but vertical > > split does nothing. Third, the more the amount of text is in the > > window, the better the performance is. It seems, that it depends not > > only on one window, but on all windows that are on the screen now: e.g., > > if you split window and load some file which fills one of the windows, > > you'll notice that this effect is reduced. Finally, if you turn off > > scrollbars mode this problem completely vanishes: text typing becomes as > > smooth as always. I also haven't met this behaviour in older > > versions. I don't remember when exactly this behaviour started, but it > > certainly was normal in 22.x branch. > > Hi, > > I've tried to reproduce this using the latest version of Emacs (26.2) > but have been unable to do so. > > I see that this bug was reported 9 years ago. Can you still reproduce > it on the newest version of Emacs? > > I can see in the bug report some minor-modes that would not have been > enabled by default. If you can still reproduce this, could you please > provide an exact recipe to do so starting from "emacs -Q"? > > If I don't hear back from you in a couple of weeks, I'll just close this > as unreproducible. > > Thanks, > Stefan Kangas One month has passed with no reply, so I'm now closing the bug. If you're still seeing this, please report back so that we can reopen it. 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