From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:35:41 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#64175 <64175@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#64175 <64175@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: [PATCH mesa-updates] gnu: mesa: Update to 23.1.2. 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Message-ID: <87zg4vqq5t.fsf@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 7805494:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="b1_dSOyjEDYruGRzHBPRqULMBg5CTze4iHgvEM7DGrMr7M" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.16; envelope-from=john.kehayias@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4316.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --b1_dSOyjEDYruGRzHBPRqULMBg5CTze4iHgvEM7DGrMr7M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guix, Here is a patch to update mesa to the latest version, tested that it builds= locally on x86_64 and i686. 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Message-ID: <87ttuq6yn0.fsf@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87zg4vqq5t.fsf@protonmail.com> References: <87zg4vqq5t.fsf@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 7805494:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="b1_dsLgnTMJA7aIVjsu7N6VZ77EeERPctm0mEJC90bzQQ" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64175 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --b1_dsLgnTMJA7aIVjsu7N6VZ77EeERPctm0mEJC90bzQQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 06:10 PM, John Kehayias wrote: > Hi Guix, > > Here is a patch to update mesa to the latest version, tested that it > builds locally on x86_64 and i686. Please see (forthcoming) discussion > on guix-devel about the branching strategy here. In short, I think it > makes sense to have a mesa-updates branch for the frequent mesa update > changes, as well as any other associated changes to the core graphics > stack. > > Thanks! > John Updated to latest release and will be pushing this along with https://issues.guix.gnu.org/64044 to a mesa-updates branch for building. 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Message-ID: <874jlkhzqf.fsf_-_@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87ttuq6yn0.fsf@protonmail.com> References: <87zg4vqq5t.fsf@protonmail.com> <87ttuq6yn0.fsf@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 7805494:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64175-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 04:07 PM, John Kehayias wrote: > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 06:10 PM, John Kehayias wrote: > >> Hi Guix, >> >> Here is a patch to update mesa to the latest version, tested that it >> builds locally on x86_64 and i686. Please see (forthcoming) discussion >> on guix-devel about the branching strategy here. In short, I think it >> makes sense to have a mesa-updates branch for the frequent mesa update >> changes, as well as any other associated changes to the core graphics >> stack. >> >> Thanks! >> John > > Updated to latest release and will be pushing this along with > https://issues.guix.gnu.org/64044 to a mesa-updates branch for building. > > Thanks, > John Pushed as 4f0ce65b74a3d28bf6ecbe4c15052dd0de22b284 (which was further updated to 23.1.4). From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:35:41 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2023 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator