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I find that if I switch to buffer=0A= =93 *Echo Area N*=94 then disable =91display-fill-column-indicator-mode=92,= =0A= the fill column indicator will disappear... So I guess there's a doc=0A= bug. ()=0A= =0A= --=0A= shynur= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 19 13:12:50 2023 Received: (at 64165) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2023 17:12:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57185 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIQs-0005qO-Dm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:12:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44080) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIQo-0005q7-Kp for 64165@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:12:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIQj-0001ji-8E; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:12:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=nYImLUUj6UN8wMnqlEWgxpkwtdvISv5yB/FQKjg57LY=; b=ANCA77PZ0aHiWj/ObBdH D+2RuMmzuhDwo/p8QFMIWX4L9bWiyJRYqYOVEHPKcCWM8cmDTue0N0fHD9bFqwqShliTSxuT9m9k7 DaF1uLDKkIv+bkA974I42c9lgqXHAPehWN4wdeIyGpxdfI4hmWgcy+hkfinYn6aHhTQQRqKeznNRZ AbBtxniHO0Z3N4gl9jV/CUWrhCDGhKzh+D8IGavH3VO4JnjroYrDaKDlFRnqdT4gtg2C6x6KKEOq/ y/Awc7+HdZVMTkSCXb5fGxIZed25hA3U6wpfST+72qiL3xha97SyHx1yrKBCoYAQR5TFW26xI1udy +Yi59y2V+yY+mQ==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBIQh-0000IF-4k; Mon, 19 Jun 2023 13:12:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 20:12:42 +0300 Message-Id: <83ttv374vp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Shynur Xie In-Reply-To: (message from Shynur Xie on Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:06:27 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#64165: =?windows-1252?Q?=91minibuffer-message=92=3A?= naming/documentation bug References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64165 Cc: 64165@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Shynur Xie > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 12:06:27 +0000 > msip_labels: > > () If I need to guess the issue which confused you, then will it help saying in the doc string that 'minibuffer-message' works like 'message' when the current buffer is not the minibuffer? 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I'm not familiar with=0A= how =1B$B!F=1B(Bminibuffer=1B$B!G=1B(B works.=0A= =0A= I think if the documentation directly states: =1B$B!H=1B(Bmessage is shown = in=0A= echo area when the current buffer is not minibuffe=1B$B!I=1B(B (if indeed t= his is=0A= the case), it would clarify a lot.= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 20 08:33:17 2023 Received: (at 64165-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2023 12:33:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58270 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qBaXt-0006pk-4i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:33:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qBaXr-0006pY-Dl for 64165-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Jun 2023 08:33:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qBaXl-0007Sm-UO; 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