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[PATCH] etc: Stop making sendemail behave strangely.

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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>, Christopher Baines <mail <at> cbaines.net>, 64151 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: [bug#64151] [PATCH] etc: Stop making sendemail behave strangely.
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:03:52 -0400

Hi Liliana,

Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Am Dienstag, dem 27.06.2023 um 21:14 -0400 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer:
>> Hi Liliana,
>> 
>> Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> > Funny that you'd mention that because for me, debbugs notifications
>> > are pretty hit or miss.  A lot of them end up filtered by our
>> > benevolent overlords without me having ever read them.
>> 
>> Maybe you are mistaken about what X-Debbugs-CC does; it doesn't cause
>> someone to be subscribed to a specific issue; it's only a CC
>> alternative that is a bit nicer in that it will reply with the issue
>> number in the reply path, which is mostly useful for new issues that
>> haven't gotten a Debbugs number yet.  So I don't think we should
>> think of it as a "notification" mechanism, simply a smarter CC for
>> Debbugs.
> I am not.  Debbugs-CC'd mail simply ends up in the spam folder because
> Google sees that

OK, odd; I haven't noticed that kind of filtering using gmail.

>> > 
>> > I'd argue that it is wrong to magically install this configuration
>> > without any user interaction.  The current setup also causes quite
>> > a number of false positives, like a package rename also causing
>> > changes in some other scope and hence notifying like five different
>> > teams all at once.
>> 
>> I personally prefer the zero-config approach that maximizes the
>> potential of etc/teams.scm and reduces the documentation burden, but
>> of course I'm biased :-).  I find the contribution process of Guix
>> already complicated enough to not want to add more to it, and welcome
>> automation.
> There's nothing wrong with automation per se, but you are confusing
> automating your own process knowingly with automating someone else's
> process without their knowledge or permission.  I'd also argue that
> your approach doesn't maximize etc/teams.scm, but rather makes it
> exhibit the weirdest behaviours imaginable by applying it blindly.

What is weird?  People opt to be in a team to be notified; the default
git configuration when submitting patches causes the submission to
notify them when appropriate.  I don't understand how that qualifies as
as the "weirdest behaviour imaginable" ?

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

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