GNU bug report logs - #64046
30.0.50; Quoting in customize choice tags

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>

Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 14:04:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 30.0.50

Done: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Message #104 received at 64046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda <at> gmail.com>
To: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net>
Cc: Ola x Nilsson <ola.x.nilsson <at> axis.com>, 64046 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#64046: 30.0.50; Quoting in customize choice tags
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 19:33:21 -0300
Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net> writes:

> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 12:29:47 -0300 Mauro Aranda 
<maurooaranda <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 11:33:09 +0200 Ola x Nilsson 
<ola.x.nilsson <at> axis.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that quote substition should be done on the car of simple item
>>>> definitions.  I have no opinion on susbstitute-command-keys vs
>>>> substitute-quotes.  But I came to think about the TITLE argument,
>>>> shouldn't quote substition be performed on it as well?
>>>
>>> I think you're right about that as well, since the title is simply a
>>> display feature.  AFAIK it wouldn't make a noticeable difference for
>>> existing uses of widget-choose in the Customize UI (in the Value menu
>>> the title is simply "Choice" and in the State menu it's "Operation on
>>> <option name>"), but it might be relevant for third party uses or 
future
>>> uses in Emacs, as well as for ad-hoc uses of simple item definitions.
>>> So applying substition to all uses of TITLE seems appropriate.  The
>>> below patch does this, and also corrects my previous patch by excluding
>>> substition from the cdr of simple item definitions.
>>
>> What would be a real-life scenario where we need to use
>> substitute-command-keys on TITLE? I can't think of any.
>
> I can't think of a really convincing example where it's needed, but just
> as a possibility for stylistic variation, e.g. for simple item
> definitions one could have a more explicit prompt like this:
>
> (widget-choose "Type `0' or `1'" '(("Use `a'" . "Use `1'") ("Use `b'"
> . "Use `2'")))
>
> which would appear as "Type ‘0’ or ‘1’" with curve-style quotes.  For
> the Customize UI, although the title is currently hard-coded as
> "Choice", one could define a widget with a title like "User's choice",
> which would appear as "User’s choice" with the curve-style quote.
> Unless some undesirable consequence of applying substitute-command-keys
> to TITLE is found, I don't see any harm in allowing such uses.

I vote for don't adding code until it's really needed, and since there
isn't a real feature request for that, I'd leave it out.  Looks like we
disagree on this, and it's not really my call, so let's leave it for a
maintainer to decide whether to add that line of code or not.





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