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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I modified section 13.14 (The declare form) of the GNU Emacs Lisp=0A= Reference Manual. The manual didn't say how to make=0A= =0A= (declare (completion ...)=0A= (modes ...))=0A= =0A= take effect; the original text is even somewhat misleading. 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The manual didn't say how to make > > (declare (completion ...) > (modes ...)) > > take effect; the original text is even somewhat misleading. Simply > evaluating a (defun ...) form which includes the above declare form > won't make Emacs filter commands when asking for completion in M-x. Thanks, but the text you suggest reads as more complex and harder to understand. So how about explaining what was wrong or missing or unclear in the original text? Then I could come up with a better wording. 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Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q9gU3-0001sR-C4; Thu, 15 Jun 2023 02:29:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:29:48 +0300 Message-Id: <83wn05tezn.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Shynur Xie In-Reply-To: (message from Shynur Xie on Tue, 13 Jun 2023 13:54:26 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#64045: [PATCH] Improve wording of the documentation about declare form References: <83cz1zwk3c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64045 Cc: 64045@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Shynur Xie > CC: "64045@debbugs.gnu.org" <64045@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 13:54:26 +0000 > msip_labels: > > > From: Eli Zaretskii > > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 16:46:47 +0300 > > Subject: Re: bug#64045 > > To: Shynur Xie > > > > So how about explaining what was wrong or missing or unclear in the > > original text? > > You can read these 2 posts (very short and won't take up much of your > time): > > - Question: Effect of `modes` In Declare Form > https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/77597 > - Question: `completion` In Declare Form Not Working > https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/77599 Thanks, I've clarified these now on the emacs-29 branch. 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