GNU bug report logs - #6404
23; NS: system scroll bar preference ignored

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:26:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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bug#6404; Package ns. (Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:26:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>
To: Bug-Gnu-Emacs <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 23; NS: system scroll bar preference ignored
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:24:49 -0400
Package: ns

Emacs fails to respect the system  "Click in the scroll bar to: Jump to the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance system preference.
Clicks into the scroll bar always result in page-wise scrolling.  




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From: Tyler Perkins tyler <at> perkins.name">tyler <at> perkins.name
Date: March 15, 2010 8:37:09 PM EDT
To: aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
Subject: [Aquamacs-bugs] 23.1.93; System scroll bar preference ignored
Reply-To: Bug reports for Aquamacs Emacs aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org">aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org

Like every other Mac app., Aquamacs should respect the system preference, "Click in the scroll bar to: Jump to the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance system preference. Aquamacs currently just jumps to the next (or previous) page when the scroll bar is clicked below (above) the thumb. Jumping directly to the spot was present in the original NeXTSTEP, as I recall, and it thankfully migrated to Mac OS X. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back!



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bug#6404; Package emacs,ns. (Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:53:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 6404 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6404: 23; NS: system scroll bar preference ignored
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:52:29 -0400
Because 'ns' is not a real package, and has no maintainer, this ended
up on the help-debbugs list. I have reassigned it to 'emacs,ns' and am
resending this so that it appears on the bug-gnu-emacs list.


David Reitter wrote:

Package: ns

Emacs fails to respect the system  "Click in the scroll bar to: Jump
to the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance system preference.
Clicks into the scroll bar always result in page-wise scrolling.  




Begin forwarded message:

From: Tyler Perkins tyler <at> perkins.name">tyler <at> perkins.name
Date: March 15, 2010 8:37:09 PM EDT
To: aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
Subject: [Aquamacs-bugs] 23.1.93; System scroll bar preference ignored
Reply-To: Bug reports for Aquamacs Emacs aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org">aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org

Like every other Mac app., Aquamacs should respect the system
preference, "Click in the scroll bar to: Jump to the spot that's
clicked" in the Appearance system preference. Aquamacs currently just
jumps to the next (or previous) page when the scroll bar is clicked
below (above) the thumb. Jumping directly to the spot was present in
the original NeXTSTEP, as I recall, and it thankfully migrated to Mac
OS X. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back!




Severity set to 'wishlist' from 'normal' Request was from Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org> to control <at> debbugs.gnu.org. (Sat, 11 Jun 2016 14:55:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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bug#6404; Package emacs. (Thu, 19 Nov 2020 04:06:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
To: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 6404 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6404: 23; NS: system scroll bar preference ignored
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:05:05 -0800
David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Package: ns
>
> Emacs fails to respect the system  "Click in the scroll bar to: Jump to the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance system preference.
> Clicks into the scroll bar always result in page-wise scrolling.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Tyler Perkins tyler <at> perkins.name">tyler <at> perkins.name
> Date: March 15, 2010 8:37:09 PM EDT
> To: aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
> Subject: [Aquamacs-bugs] 23.1.93; System scroll bar preference ignored
> Reply-To: Bug reports for Aquamacs Emacs aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org">aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
>
> Like every other Mac app., Aquamacs should respect the system preference, "Click
> in the scroll bar to: Jump to the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance system
> preference. Aquamacs currently just jumps to the next (or previous) page when
> the scroll bar is clicked below (above) the thumb. Jumping directly to the spot
> was present in the original NeXTSTEP, as I recall, and it thankfully migrated to
> Mac OS X. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back!

Does Emacs respect any such system settings on macOS?




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bug#6404; Package emacs. (Thu, 19 Nov 2020 13:45:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #16 received at 6404 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se>
Cc: 6404 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#6404: 23; NS: system scroll bar preference ignored
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:44:05 -0500
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Some of them. The defaults of highlight color for example I remember were
imported.
The scrollbar settings, I recall, are not.

Rather than fixing this in a piecemeal fashion, an Emacs port that uses
higher-level system APIs (and does not implement Emacs settings for such UI
details) would be the more realistic option. It could co-exist with the
low-level Emacs port.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 11:05 PM Stefan Kangas <stefan <at> marxist.se> wrote:

> David Reitter <david.reitter <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Package: ns
> >
> > Emacs fails to respect the system  "Click in the scroll bar to: Jump to
> the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance system preference.
> > Clicks into the scroll bar always result in page-wise scrolling.
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Tyler Perkins tyler <at> perkins.name">tyler <at> perkins.name
> > Date: March 15, 2010 8:37:09 PM EDT
> > To: aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
> > Subject: [Aquamacs-bugs] 23.1.93; System scroll bar preference ignored
> > Reply-To: Bug reports for Aquamacs Emacs aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org">
> aquamacs-bugs <at> aquamacs.org
> >
> > Like every other Mac app., Aquamacs should respect the system
> preference, "Click
> > in the scroll bar to: Jump to the spot that's clicked" in the Appearance
> system
> > preference. Aquamacs currently just jumps to the next (or previous) page
> when
> > the scroll bar is clicked below (above) the thumb. Jumping directly to
> the spot
> > was present in the original NeXTSTEP, as I recall, and it thankfully
> migrated to
> > Mac OS X. Once you get used to it, you'll never go back!
>
> Does Emacs respect any such system settings on macOS?
>
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