From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 11 11:46:57 2023 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2023 15:46:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37625 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NHN-0007FR-1A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:46:57 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:42224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NHL-0007FJ-3W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:46:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NH7-0003m5-Pg for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:46:48 -0400 Received: from libre.net.ua ([91.234.34.15] helo=fff.org.ua) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q8NH0-0006rE-Jb for bug-guix@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:46:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libre.net.ua; s=mail; t=1686498387; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z2C+MnH8QSZXqd/jDGKAb/FE6d0bHaAjQljEnSwXY+o=; b=XZFPVgruLdMBexbIsGS3QgWhLNQq/iobyE9lro7S6hlkK1tQ5sOyG2EyumA/W/3P5SH4hD YFd1tm9yckfmz0dID+pm/IgZ4ItkTzuCPL3rsgTqDb1nJizcdHz9zxl/8fp7wx75LUU33+ WKsbVGSET7wIW+F6ML/RQPs91QbUt7I= Message-ID: <338dbca28cb9467e15ff88268b088348ab75ebe0.camel@libre.net.ua> Subject: Installation frustration weekend From: Denys Nykula To: bug-guix@gnu.org Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2023 18:46:26 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=91.234.34.15; envelope-from=vegan@libre.net.ua; helo=fff.org.ua X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Guix on a Debian laptop host works okay, GuixSD in VirtualBox a couple of weeks ago seemed fine too, but I've just spent a weekend trying to install it on a dedicated laptop for real use, and I'm running into many problems. I should split this and file multiple more detailed issues later over the next couple of weeks, but in case I don't have a chance to get back to it soon I thought posting it here as is would be better than never posting it anywhere. Installation with a desktop environment (EXWM) started to "die unexpectedly" every time when loading subtitutes, please see installer- dump-790b17b6. (Nice thing) Didn't find a netcat tool in the installer image to copy the dump to my tethering phone, but bash's feature enabling me to cat to >/dev/tcp/192.168.x.x/PORT did what I want. So if the upload failed, I can post the tarball manually if needed. Nothing hints that to enter the encryption key when it asks it the second time during the boot, the user has to switch their keyboard layout. Guessed it accidentally by playing with the Guile REPL that appears after three decryption attempts. Console fonts lose Cyrillic support after the first pull and upgrade. Question marks appear in place of my letters instead. (Probably impossible to fix by design, but worth mentioning) Pulling and downloading substitutes wastes hours of time and traffic, without estimates and with the warning split into many small messages without a total sum. Also seems like it happens from scratch after the boot, despite the installer having already pulled so much from the Internet. That's with the standard installer image 1.4.0 x86_64. Retried using the latest image. It partially fixes one of the problems (desktop now installs), and introduces more. Nothing hints that the combination for layout switching is now Shift+Alt, not Alt+Shift. Video (Intel HD Graphics 400) freezes after gdm shows the mouse, so I can't use the environment or switch to a console to get a debug log. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 12 06:54:16 2023 Received: (at 64006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2023 10:54:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8fBg-0004gF-BO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 06:54:16 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.98]:36231) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8fBd-0004g6-Gx for 64006@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 06:54:15 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QfpTc0G8Nz5yvk; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:54:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1686567252; bh=xg/6kykBDSpMAalp0cbD+Xk80cJxbTxn+LKMwEnTrqQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Wl3WxJKXOwrzZ3uK/A9XKM5shleKEGSVPusWfwn5JaMcOcu6JDGUf1S/fAOa+0ahe 2JKSiWOHnvvW75Tx5RPYbLEQA7xOdA6ibV4IT65AWTg08dHZ3J6A9+f16XixP10PmC QBJqy/BwauM24RluCxDZMmPws8IFEt57ch5h8yPxLI+RDPiNxcfHhymQUYZeV/1JJr +dHH0FDm0HLyw2R29aVyBBEiD7WAiQzX0sES0k6mAI0cPy/gzeB8XVYJlfp9JMAqVr VyydUlDRqxKDCeMcWIPcfnA3FpiGMAOPJBZzKvd8aNj9+eAOOBkJ/GjBCjDj4Q+shj glxWfnd2/wVFQ== Received: from policy01-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QfpTb6cNzz4xKD; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:54:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at policy01-mors.netcup.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy01-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QfpTR6NYsz8scR; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:54:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81EEE8143B; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:53:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Denys Nykula Subject: Re: bug#64006: Installation frustration weekend References: <338dbca28cb9467e15ff88268b088348ab75ebe0.camel@libre.net.ua> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:53:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <338dbca28cb9467e15ff88268b088348ab75ebe0.camel@libre.net.ua> (Denys Nykula's message of "Sun, 11 Jun 2023 18:46:26 +0300") Message-ID: <87zg559cje.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 81EEE8143B X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.60 / 15.00]; BAYES_HAM(-5.50)[100.00%]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3209, ipnet:146.52.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: +sc0Ed04b06+sQrGrlTXSuQiHDsrpuRRACTUN5Go8H3Y/T1nNaCRO9Op X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64006 Cc: 64006@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Denys! Sorry to hear, but thank you for writing which bugs still cause trouble with Guix System. I can say this: Denys Nykula writes: > Installation with a desktop environment (EXWM) started to "die > unexpectedly" every time when loading subtitutes, please see installer- > dump-790b17b6. Not being a maintainer, I have not looked at the dump, but as you reported, apparently this will be fixed by making a new Guix release, because the latest Guix has fixes for dealing with substitute server errors. > (Nice thing) Didn't find a netcat tool in the installer image to copy You can use =E2=80=9Cguix install netcat=E2=80=9D in the installer, probabl= y, at least it will work after running =E2=80=9Cherd start cow-store /mnt=E2=80=9D as d= escribed for manual installation in the manual. Not a bug in my opinion. > Nothing hints that to enter the encryption key when it asks it the > second time during the boot, the user has to switch their keyboard > layout. Yes=C2=A0=E2=80=A6 this is a bug, but how to fix it; does Debian do better? > Console fonts lose Cyrillic support after the first pull and upgrade. > Question marks appear in place of my letters instead. This sounds like a bug/regression; in the source code , it looks like it should work, because it uses GNU Unifont, but it does not display Cyrillic for me either. However, you could add kmscon to your operating system config=E2=80=99s services field to make console fonts= work for all languages, for example like this (services (cons* (service kmscon-service-type) =E2=80=A6 %desktop-services)) > (Probably impossible to fix by design, but worth mentioning) Pulling > and downloading substitutes wastes hours of time and traffic, without > estimates and with the warning split into many small messages without a > total sum. Also seems like it happens from scratch after the boot, > despite the installer having already pulled so much from the Internet. Yes, I think double downloads cannot be fixed, because the installer is tested to provide a first working version (except download errors=C2=A0=E2= =80=A6), but it will always be outdated. But why there are duplicate substitute messages in the console, I do not know. Is it a bug? > =E2=80=A6 > Nothing hints that the combination for layout switching is now > Shift+Alt, not Alt+Shift. Both have the same effect for me. Shift+Alt and Alt+Shift both work for me. Strange. What happens when you change the combination in your operating system config=E2=80=99s keyboard layout settings and reconfigure? > Video (Intel HD Graphics 400) freezes after gdm shows the mouse, so I > can't use the environment or switch to a console to get a debug log. Did it work in Debian? Did you use nonfree drivers before? Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 12 09:50:55 2023 Received: (at 64006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2023 13:50:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39239 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8hwd-0003ni-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:50:55 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.98]:57369) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8hwY-0003nS-78 for 64006@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:50:53 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QftPN5sXnz5yns; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:50:48 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1686577848; bh=niiZFh9Ell51Hk5uzgsq7mxVgGMem8ymIAxj8AK2jhI=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=WeSpS04u/YicNFs3r+m3kulRgwjggx4iVCy9ikORDdSgAP6LmkxqiZqZZc7E9JQxA /ck1a6v643pRq4gVhMNSUSTKQikePBJDjvmePPdorVDbQ0PbzFZuWRhk05MAo8ez67 cTBMNqj8SazdL8fjbyFI3vTBE1vFqlYvisz7VNiC1AzHz4szB/DMWRzS/fnzBHbp34 Bf8szfM1uHwjiYnjuSYrqswJVifhM2WiyBmQpb038azkRbjoYLyz93hnzkCYrORnaZ LnjC292/Y8LYj+cGK/D9EOHcJUJC8ye8gjs6bwjpGaQxJeOE621SE6pufy3ITkNVkA LuGEG2H0o/EUA== Received: from policy01-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-2501.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QftPN57Kzz4xP1; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:50:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at policy01-mors.netcup.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy01-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QftPF0CsRz8sZj; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:50:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 978198147C; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:50:35 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Denys Nykula Subject: Re: bug#64006: Installation frustration weekend References: <338dbca28cb9467e15ff88268b088348ab75ebe0.camel@libre.net.ua> <87zg559cje.fsf@pelzflorian.de> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 15:50:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87zg559cje.fsf@pelzflorian.de> (pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de's message of "Mon, 12 Jun 2023 12:53:57 +0200") Message-ID: <87cz20u6vp.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 978198147C X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.60 / 15.00]; BAYES_HAM(-5.50)[99.99%]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3209, ipnet:146.52.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: ERkk+ylUMdoQs9dCOqSeG5iyHz+CiJBVtNDu0p1P7n3Y8gKW310oZn52 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64006 Cc: 64006@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" writes: >> Console fonts lose Cyrillic support after the first pull and upgrade. >> Question marks appear in place of my letters instead. > This sounds like a bug/regression; in the source code > , > it looks like it should work, because it uses GNU Unifont, What was I thinking. Console without kmscon cannot support a complete font. It=E2=80=99s just that the default changed from supporting Cyrillic = to supporting progress bars: commit 01334a61c7541d8ae29c5252e2e5b3ed7a59c552 Author: Julien Lepiller Date: Fri Feb 3 12:56:02 2023 +0100 gnu: Use unifont by default in TTYs. =20=20=20=20 It has even better language support than LatGrkCyr-8x16 and can show fancy progress bars. =20=20=20=20 * gnu/services/base.scm (%default-console-font): Use unifont. See: IMHO this new default is sensible. This sub-issue is not a bug. You should use either kmscon or change the default. Regards, Florian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 12 11:17:47 2023 Received: (at 64006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2023 15:17:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40229 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8jIh-0006Q2-7m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:17:47 -0400 Received: from libre.net.ua ([91.234.34.15]:39428 helo=fff.org.ua) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q8jIc-0006Pk-Sw for 64006@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:17:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=libre.net.ua; s=mail; t=1686583055; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ofBbxZ4t8lhTdjIXvLFO4O5eUE3XjF7wNlW4H4wjljg=; b=oCqFoxRkcxzybALlV/5/gNZrI0mLTcy2nFTvxJ8pSQ2NhXy1oqvEAO+2yiRSWyMyVqJwbW qTaXHBGi03CstxfSd07+MARbHxdSHjUPXAT/7nK6CPX4xi98JlYK9EGNgtFefjkzbPLRXB Lr2pTwW7lYkmi4L2JeumcbfaQgLbzoU= Message-ID: <98b73cc01e72b802aa0434bf95368e57f60eddfb.camel@libre.net.ua> Subject: Re: bug#64006: Installation frustration weekend From: Denys Nykula To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 18:17:35 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87cz20u6vp.fsf@pelzflorian.de> References: <338dbca28cb9467e15ff88268b088348ab75ebe0.camel@libre.net.ua> <87zg559cje.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <87cz20u6vp.fsf@pelzflorian.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64006 Cc: 64006@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Thanks for your comments. What I can answer right away is that I've found the issue 59975 and the related commit too, but I still look at it as a bug, even if the earlier behavior was accidental (i.e. if the font with Cyrillic support was chosen for its typographic characters). If a user during the installation selects their language and, after booting, sees question marks instead of all localized strings, that affects them more than seeing only ASCII progress bars. I think the installer should conditionally revert the progress bars (is that possible?) and set LatGrkCyr-8x16 as the console font, if the system locale is Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Macedonian, Belarusian, Serbian or Russian. That's what Debian-based distributions do; other approaches are probably possible (choose the default font in the GNU service at boot time?). When I learn more of the system internals, I'll try to make a patch. Adding console-font-service-type to the Guix config like the documentation suggests didn't work, it complained that the service already existed, so I ran setfont manually to get a minimally working system with which I can work on my documents and debug the graphical display issue later. Note to self: learn about modify-services. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 13 09:25:44 2023 Received: (at 64006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jun 2023 13:25:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41562 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q941n-0007K0-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:25:43 -0400 Received: from relay.yourmailgateway.de ([188.68.63.162]:45393) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q941k-0007Jl-79 for 64006@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 09:25:42 -0400 Received: from mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QgTnt45zXz3rT4; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:25:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pelzflorian.de; s=key2; t=1686662738; bh=s4iuIKvHKWcaLr5u45tYdh52hwX9Qz/sp3p48r7Ekfs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=EFbNizyRApHdTCWkAKlNAxs4EF+3SQrxp0NQbPUAwHzeXjLsQQ4B+NkrR1M1hGiRP 43IVgm84hBSA/kPHTIewIKheRHDOEdOgZK9McphvuD6UOQvDDJaefYVZ13fq85hknU 4lCC1VuBSCn/oiuaad0NX9wkaUwIAlFISKURVG7JFn8ny94IrrxpPECHGT85q8JOdG lzYmwRdPAtLsDZd2TxZE70c06DjvW4ueL/orZVFPn7DaB7pDqePtN7GEnk556yCFT9 rk/mbKg8sBKiLtD8hcp5kaClzMUAMld4PMVMlgRGizPW2pkY7U/CBM4fMUhsTWn1ps IgDcqhWpHTznQ== Received: from policy02-mors.netcup.net (unknown [46.38.225.35]) by mors-relay-8201.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QgTnt3N2nz3rSW; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:25:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at policy02-mors.netcup.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.899 required=6.31 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_00=-1.9, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mxe217.netcup.net (unknown [10.243.12.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by policy02-mors.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4QgTnk4wy4z8svQ; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from florianrock64 (ip92344de0.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de [146.52.77.224]) by mxe217.netcup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4A3678058E; Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:25:25 +0200 (CEST) From: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" To: Denys Nykula Subject: Re: bug#64006: Installation frustration weekend References: <338dbca28cb9467e15ff88268b088348ab75ebe0.camel@libre.net.ua> <87zg559cje.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <87cz20u6vp.fsf@pelzflorian.de> <98b73cc01e72b802aa0434bf95368e57f60eddfb.camel@libre.net.ua> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:25:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <98b73cc01e72b802aa0434bf95368e57f60eddfb.camel@libre.net.ua> (Denys Nykula's message of "Mon, 12 Jun 2023 18:17:35 +0300") Message-ID: <87fs6vo5ob.fsf@pelzflorian.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4A3678058E X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.58 / 15.00]; BAYES_HAM(-5.48)[99.95%]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:3209, ipnet:146.52.0.0/16, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: rspamd-worker-8404 X-NC-CID: 1xCY24aqxdJ31pe/ISnHfqtfiGWctH0j3Q2iiOa8yMww2gvVXpnM4Qz8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 64006 Cc: 64006@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Denys Nykula writes: > but I still look at > it as a bug, Then it is a bug. Please go ahead and open a separate bug when you have time or preferably a patch when you have a fix. However, the console default font in gnu/services/base.scm is universal for all locales and really should keep supporting progress bars instead of Greek and Cyrillic and Arabic script. Possibly however the modify-services form you mention should be added to the services field by the installer for Ukrainian etc. just like the keyboard-layout is added to the config automatically. Regards, Florian