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In GNU Emacs 29.0.91 (build 2, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2023-05-14 built on AVALON Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.2009.19045.2965) Configured using: 'configure --with-modules --without-dbus --with-native-compilation --without-compress-install --with-tree-sitter CFLAGS=3D-O2' Configured features: ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB (NATIVE_COMP present but libgccjit not available) Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1252 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 01 01:44:17 2023 Received: (at 63815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2023 05:44:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36685 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4b6f-0003ig-6u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 01:44:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4b6a-0003iP-PR for 63815@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 01:44:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4b6V-00079o-2M; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 01:44:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=EK0zX9E004E5UE5cZUg59ogfY8/i+y7FlyjljFm/bLc=; b=FrKX+BDiMpKq 3kVy0mSqZnCsbKA/ekNBszK0BCY+c60NEhszPJKmJymFjgDgiZk5gxWfUhkwG+7eOuO8BeSwoXPBT zRTZtkfjTMnG9jkVHzwAy+myTaa0gMcVaCPUdkGGsOW8jjKGnrt1jRIMUURMcwpVLwL/gyEjf3Zr8 LRUEcil+6WDPYSC6480DevzNklpd28leqggWNKx/DsSBhKvVzCW6KDRFLVpt2dPk/tb51MAO2TOzG 0+tRIdOqUW6Ej5Y/ojn//qWzF0Q058xstbZaP/rBuL4VbHmx5m/fdY09KfIobFiDqmJCe0KfF/VYE A3rZ71gsdGUIUaLRS6Pt7g==; Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q4b6U-0004Ju-EI; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 01:44:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 08:44:51 +0300 Message-Id: <83fs7benxo.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 31 May 2023 20:00:11 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#63815: 29.0.91; Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63815 Cc: 63815@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Drew Adams > Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 20:00:11 +0000 > > Just as for `help-mode-map', please consider binding `M-n' to > `clone-buffer in `Info-mode-map'. M-n is already bound to clone-buffer in Info, since at least Emacs 23. Doesn't it work for you? What does "C-h c M-n" say in Info? 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What does "C-h c M-n" say in Info? I'm sorry. I wrote it backward, in both the Subject line and the report te= xt. I should have requested that we bind M-n in help-mode-map to clone-buffer, = just as we bind M-n in Info-mode-map to clone-buffer. Apologies. Would you please retitle the bug, assuming that you don't close= it immediately? Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 01 12:09:58 2023 Received: (at 63815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jun 2023 16:09:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38377 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4ksA-00018x-JW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:09:58 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:33603) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4ks6-00018M-Be for 63815@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 12:09:57 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9530A1BF209; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 16:09:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#63815: 29.0.91; Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 1 Jun 2023 13:25:31 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <83fs7benxo.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 19:08:57 +0300 Message-ID: <86jzwn4142.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63815 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "63815@debbugs.gnu.org" <63815@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> M-n is already bound to clone-buffer in Info, since at least Emacs 23. >> Doesn't it work for you? What does "C-h c M-n" say in Info? > > I'm sorry. I wrote it backward, in both the Subject line and the report text. > > I should have requested that we bind M-n in help-mode-map to > clone-buffer, just as we bind M-n in Info-mode-map to clone-buffer. In Emacs 29 you can use 'clone-buffer' in the Help buffer bound to 'C-x x n'. 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I see. Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 02 03:05:38 2023 Received: (at 63815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2023 07:05:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39014 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4yqw-00086R-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2023 03:05:38 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:44583) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q4yqv-00085p-D6 for 63815@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2023 03:05:38 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B4F2C0009; Fri, 2 Jun 2023 07:05:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: [External] : Re: bug#63815: 29.0.91; Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 1 Jun 2023 16:44:47 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <83fs7benxo.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzwn4142.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:49:31 +0300 Message-ID: <865y86wei4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63815 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "63815@debbugs.gnu.org" <63815@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> > I should have requested that we bind M-n in help-mode-map to >> > clone-buffer, just as we bind M-n in Info-mode-map to clone-buffer. >> >> In Emacs 29 you can use 'clone-buffer' in the Help buffer >> bound to 'C-x x n'. > > I see. Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? > Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. 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Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? > > Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? >=20 > Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: >=20 > C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). >=20 > It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. Is that `M-n' binding new for Emacs 30? I don't see it in the 29 pretest (e= macs -Q). Anyway, if an M-n binding has already been added then (great) pl= ease close this bug. Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 02 12:16:37 2023 Received: (at 63815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2023 16:16:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40742 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q57S9-0005W9-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2023 12:16:37 -0400 Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]:51775) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q57S6-0005Vq-5l for 63815@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2023 12:16:35 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CED11C0002; Fri, 2 Jun 2023 16:16:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: [External] : Re: bug#63815: 29.0.91; Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 2 Jun 2023 13:23:50 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <83fs7benxo.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzwn4142.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <865y86wei4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 19:05:46 +0300 Message-ID: <86zg5hubal.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63815 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "63815@debbugs.gnu.org" <63815@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> > I see. Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? >> > Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? >> >> Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: >> >> C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). >> >> It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. > > Is that `M-n' binding new for Emacs 30? I don't see it in the 29 > pretest (emacs -Q). Anyway, if an M-n binding has already been added > then (great) please close this bug. Thx. Sorry that the answer was unclear. This Help buffer showed help about the Info buffer. So M-n exists only in Info mode. But in Emacs 29 a new global binding 'C-x x n' was added to make 'clone-buffer' available in all modes. This makes 'M-n' in Info obsolete. 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Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? > >> > Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? > >> > >> Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: > >> > >> C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). > >> > >> It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. > > > > Is that `M-n' binding new for Emacs 30? I don't see it in the 29 > > pretest (emacs -Q). Anyway, if an M-n binding has already been added > > then (great) please close this bug. Thx. >=20 > Sorry that the answer was unclear. This Help buffer showed help > about the Info buffer. So M-n exists only in Info mode. > But in Emacs 29 a new global binding 'C-x x n' was added > to make 'clone-buffer' available in all modes. > This makes 'M-n' in Info obsolete. Why would you say that (last sentence)? That we have a global binding for the command doesn't mean we shouldn't also have an easier, (and long-standing) local binding for it. The request of this bug is to add `M-n' for `clone-buffer' to buffers in Help mode, in addition to having it for buffers in Info mode. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 04 13:01:40 2023 Received: (at 63815) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2023 17:01:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r6q-0007v1-1o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:01:40 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:51145) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1q5r6n-0007un-No for 63815@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2023 13:01:38 -0400 X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 545F0FF802; Sun, 4 Jun 2023 17:01:31 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: [External] : Re: bug#63815: 29.0.91; Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 2 Jun 2023 18:37:05 +0000") Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <83fs7benxo.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzwn4142.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <865y86wei4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86zg5hubal.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 19:40:59 +0300 Message-ID: <868rczxnhg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63815 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "63815@debbugs.gnu.org" <63815@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> >> > I see. Why not (also) `M-n', like elsewhere? >> >> > Why not treat *Help* like *info* and *Man __*? >> >> >> >> Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: >> >> >> >> C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). >> >> >> >> It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. >> > >> > Is that `M-n' binding new for Emacs 30? I don't see it in the 29 >> > pretest (emacs -Q). Anyway, if an M-n binding has already been added >> > then (great) please close this bug. Thx. >> >> Sorry that the answer was unclear. This Help buffer showed help >> about the Info buffer. So M-n exists only in Info mode. >> But in Emacs 29 a new global binding 'C-x x n' was added >> to make 'clone-buffer' available in all modes. >> This makes 'M-n' in Info obsolete. > > Why would you say that (last sentence)? Because the new universal keybinding is available in all buffers. But I don't propose to remove 'M-n' in Info. > That we have a global binding for the command > doesn't mean we shouldn't also have an easier, > (and long-standing) local binding for it. > > The request of this bug is to add `M-n' for > `clone-buffer' to buffers in Help mode, in > addition to having it for buffers in Info mode. Sorry, I have no opinion about 'M-n' in Help. I just pointed out there is a new global keybinding 'C-x x n' that can be used in Help now. 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Bind `M-n' in `Info-mode-map' to `clone-buffer' To: Juri Linkov , Drew Adams Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 63815 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 63815@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 63815 + wontfix close 63815 thanks Juri Linkov writes: >>> >> Actually, 'C-x x n' is the global keybinding. Here is what Help says: >>> >> >>> >> C-x x n runs the command clone-buffer (found in global-map). >>> >> >>> >> It is bound to M-n and C-x x n. >>> > >>> > Is that `M-n' binding new for Emacs 30? I don't see it in the 29 >>> > pretest (emacs -Q). Anyway, if an M-n binding has already been added >>> > then (great) please close this bug. Thx. >>> >>> Sorry that the answer was unclear. This Help buffer showed help >>> about the Info buffer. So M-n exists only in Info mode. >>> But in Emacs 29 a new global binding 'C-x x n' was added >>> to make 'clone-buffer' available in all modes. >>> This makes 'M-n' in Info obsolete. >> >> Why would you say that (last sentence)? > > Because the new universal keybinding is available in all buffers. > But I don't propose to remove 'M-n' in Info. > >> That we have a global binding for the command >> doesn't mean we shouldn't also have an easier, >> (and long-standing) local binding for it. >> >> The request of this bug is to add `M-n' for >> `clone-buffer' to buffers in Help mode, in >> addition to having it for buffers in Info mode. > > Sorry, I have no opinion about 'M-n' in Help. > I just pointed out there is a new global keybinding > 'C-x x n' that can be used in Help now. Right. Let's not add yet another keybinding for this. Users that want it can bind it themselves. 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