From unknown Sat Aug 16 18:16:30 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#6374 <6374@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#6374 <6374@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.2; manual language fixes Reply-To: bug#6374 <6374@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 01:16:30 +0000 retitle 6374 23.2; manual language fixes reassign 6374 emacs submitter 6374 Warren L Dodge severity 6374 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 07 21:13:10 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2010 01:13:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLnNN-0007Cx-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:13:10 -0400 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLnNL-0007Cs-DK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:13:08 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:49543) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OLnNH-0002K5-JN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:13:03 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53340 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLnNG-0004Ou-0P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:13:03 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RECEIVED_FROM_WINDOWS_HOST autolearn=no version=3.3.1 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLnNE-0003nK-Gw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:13:01 -0400 Received: from tx2ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com ([65.55.88.11]:42285 helo=TX2EHSOBE001.bigfish.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLnNE-0003n6-BN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:13:00 -0400 Received: from mail26-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.254) by TX2EHSOBE001.bigfish.com (10.9.40.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.1.340.0; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:42:47 +0000 Received: from mail26-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail26-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54768920703 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:42:47 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 13 X-BigFish: VPS13(zz936eMzz1202hzzz2dh1a6ij66h) Received: from mail26-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail26-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 127595776461499_26432; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS014.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.244]) by mail26-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 870F7E780C5 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from igate.tek.com (192.65.41.20) by TX2EHSMHS014.bigfish.com (10.9.99.114) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.0.482.44; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 00:42:27 +0000 Received: from tektronix.tek.com (tektronix.tek.com [128.181.6.43]) by igate.tek.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o580gQYJ026084 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mdhost.cse.tek.com (mdhost.cse.tek.com [128.181.15.25]) by tektronix.tek.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o580gQmT027937 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lwe127084.cse.tek.com (IDENT:U2FsdGVkX1/98LEvySIrXjFmcOe+DzKFOssoMO+yilQ@lwe127084.central.tektronix.net [134.62.77.12]) by mdhost.cse.tek.com (8.12.3(P3.3.2003)/8.13.4) with ESMTP id o580gOdm015540 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lwe127084.central.tektronix.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lwe127084.cse.tek.com (8.13.1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id o580k1CY007612 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:46:01 -0700 Received: (from warrend@localhost) by lwe127084.central.tektronix.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id o580juJ2007611; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700 From: Warren L Dodge To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 23.2; manual language fixes Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-CETC-MailScanner-Information: Please contact ecmail@mdhost.cse.tek.com for more information X-CETC-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CETC-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam X-MailScanner-From: warrend@tektronix.com X-Reverse-DNS: igate.tek.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) Reading the GNU Emacs Manual and found a couple sentances that have something wrong with them. In the 4.1 Inserting Text section If the radix is greater than 10, some letters starting with `a' serve as part of a character code, just like digits. ^ ^ Not sure but it seems something is wrong here ---------------^ Maybe is should be 'a'-'f'. Anyway it doesn't seem to read as I would think. Instead of `C-q', you can use `C-x 8 ' (`ucs-insert') to insert a character based on its Unicode name or code-point. This commands prompts for a character to insert, ... The word commands should be command I believe. ^^^^^^^ In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.6) of 2010-05-24 on zephyr Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000 configured using `configure '--prefix=/tools/wdtgnu/emacs-23.2' '--disable-nls'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: C value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: (only . t) Recent input: C-g s s t a r t i n g SPC w i t h SPC a SPC s e r v e s i n s e r t i n g m x e m a c s - b b u r e p o r Recent messages: Searching subfile emacs-2... Searching subfile emacs-3... Searching subfile emacs-4... Searching subfile emacs-5... Searching subfile emacs-6... Searching subfile emacs-7... Searching subfile emacs-8... Info-search: Search failed: "starting with a serve" byte-code: End of buffer Making completion list... 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Box 500 Beaverton, OR 97077 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 07 22:46:08 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2010 02:46:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLopM-0007q0-Kk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:46:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLopK-0007ph-S5 for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:46:07 -0400 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLopG-0003oe-Us; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:46:02 -0400 From: Eli Zaretskii To: Warren L Dodge In-reply-to: (message from Warren L Dodge on Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes References: Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:46:02 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Warren L Dodge > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700 > Cc: > > If the radix is greater than 10, some letters starting with `a' serve as > part of a character code, just like digits. ^ > ^ > Not sure but it seems something is wrong here ---------------^ Maybe is > should be 'a'-'f'. Anyway it doesn't seem to read as I would think. Emacs supports radix values beyond 16, so a-f is not enough. It's actually a-z. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 07 23:06:13 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2010 03:06:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLp8m-0007xK-Sy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:06:13 -0400 Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.160.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLp8l-0007xE-5x for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:06:11 -0400 Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so2818810gyh.3 for <6374@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:06:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Saj3sbJqQdjNVJPSNi4lvGiOkB0RNWG6yxYspPnSZLQ=; b=orsCj6i3TOnu6mf+6RaD+wHuSkaWH84LgMzFn7UDl3+Cz7LDS7YJkKYkDmgqqCeSBi DrEaFK+BKLddeIHDTjNEqyi71+q4r22T2LXB+O/zGRa4/6GMXnYJJV9LFH5TLnZRV/h3 iFxMPgK3tgxPDF/yMSGSDsoG3ouWYuwIY0Oqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pVxrfoI5dhLyotMkBhdvgrscmPwkr5unx4EVR+9yP7cAbdA4MJbJp65xVQyAJa7Ryq plBqIBswh3nN+N5tm3aeXzYd7EXvzBoffquoMPQA2XPQq5ZCFOb3opqziTvbmyoUwRe+ 47z+ROZhKiyp20WUY3J5PrEP0FgEbj8CJMbvo= Received: by 10.101.146.34 with SMTP id y34mr16135282ann.151.1275966365159; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:06:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:05:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Lennart Borgman Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:05:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: Warren L Dodge , 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Warren L Dodge >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700 >> Cc: >> >> If the radix is greater than 10, some letters starting with `a' serve as >> part of a character code, just like digits. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0^ >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0^ >> Not sure but it seems something is wrong here ---------------^ Maybe is >> should be 'a'-'f'. Anyway it doesn't seem to read as I would think. > > Emacs supports radix values beyond 16, so a-f is not enough. =C2=A0It's > actually a-z. I would expect it to be a-w (since then 0-9a-w are 32 "digits"). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 07 23:36:40 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2010 03:36:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLpcG-00088M-6W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:36:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLpcE-00088H-1r for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:36:38 -0400 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLpcA-0004vV-Db; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:36:34 -0400 From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lennart Borgman In-reply-to: (message from Lennart Borgman on Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:05:45 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:36:34 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: warrend@tektronix.com, 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Lennart Borgman > Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:05:45 +0200 > Cc: Warren L Dodge , 6374@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> From: Warren L Dodge > >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700 > >> Cc: > >> > >> If the radix is greater than 10, some letters starting with `a' serve as > >> part of a character code, just like digits.                  ^ > >>                                                              ^ > >> Not sure but it seems something is wrong here ---------------^ Maybe is > >> should be 'a'-'f'. Anyway it doesn't seem to read as I would think. > > > > Emacs supports radix values beyond 16, so a-f is not enough.  It's > > actually a-z. > > > I would expect it to be a-w (since then 0-9a-w are 32 "digits"). ??? What's so magical about the number 32? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 07 23:51:22 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2010 03:51:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLpqU-0008Ds-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:51:22 -0400 Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com ([209.85.160.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLpqS-0008Dn-Pv for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:51:21 -0400 Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so2838359gyh.3 for <6374@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:51:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A4EN89EZe0lAPmKb6M7nC4r/S7ZeegklohDy89FGjcc=; b=kZZ9CKnPwm0dFC6p5ChdQJbhOO/QwJ9URayI6iQoApYLxswbmmJzcin7JPhRhjF+u4 iMYnqNS1vF1cCrf6Nz6k8y+CQn6L0pqCDFiv6ZK26EX1AT5DMdgs9bPmxEvTtXkQhWtH j5Brwig1+qQQzN5CmH/uO5D93QDh1UBX87oS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ta7MUDziNSnX3lOBSuC3Vh70nVXEIGJkfkHCSQj68ZR5JqNvBFkmAaKNiPmyDUU5kS ZZs/gmBER++t2UPKr14vUc+ZtOijLFoUQYa0p4X/Dn65hsNnLC/h2LdaZoW+1rQXvIik OSRoCfWe+ItsOs725ftRyNLfwP9OZxelm2jqE= Received: by 10.101.172.6 with SMTP id z6mr16571497ano.252.1275969077118; Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:51:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.154.15 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:50:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Lennart Borgman Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:50:57 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: warrend@tektronix.com, 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Lennart Borgman >> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 05:05:45 +0200 >> Cc: Warren L Dodge , 6374@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> From: Warren L Dodge >> >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:45:56 -0700 >> >> Cc: >> >> >> >> If the radix is greater than 10, some letters starting with `a' serve= as >> >> part of a character code, just like digits. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0^ >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0^ >> >> Not sure but it seems something is wrong here ---------------^ Maybe = is >> >> should be 'a'-'f'. Anyway it doesn't seem to read as I would think. >> > >> > Emacs supports radix values beyond 16, so a-f is not enough. =C2=A0It'= s >> > actually a-z. >> >> >> I would expect it to be a-w (since then 0-9a-w are 32 "digits"). > > ??? What's so magical about the number 32? Oh, my misunderstanding. I thought the only interesting radixes where 2**n. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jun 08 05:15:43 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2010 09:15:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLuuN-0001vl-BP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:15:43 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.214.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLuuL-0001vg-Nj for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 05:15:42 -0400 Received: by bwz6 with SMTP id 6so163908bwz.3 for <6374@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:15:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=oF2UI0YlKzVL+xiGRPdGQ2ilj87oCsFlyDW76uzvIUg=; b=cZ26cKPyQp0D8YRbp2N0XF5Gkl9RK+rElcEWCz8DnHFrM+OfVcBlGwg1TDGFlazLDy Rh7nVDJOTBkvfr2TiXrawFePNFglMZOoV/eaFIXor7TvtVUey885ADtbqF+c7YyQYmrt gOahtKOHqPxUM/EMMgkLm0UTUN6epn9AhVFCc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=j8tI2G+F1wJOKnKNPU6C6APih9a5nJbLME9LcuktfusgDpzxchjDQNGvGKXrGaCBeJ hTuXCTgTGKC+W6qAzSgLj5/nTVm3dsg5w8wWM8HAS1muzQkmK5DdDQnHgx3pnRZR5p01 skPiNrWSTsF/md13Q0VeduAt/74RiIzZmnL7Q= Received: by 10.204.133.87 with SMTP id e23mr500457bkt.182.1275988538096; Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:15:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.32.5 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jun 2010 02:15:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:15:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes To: Lennart Borgman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , warrend@tektronix.com, 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 05:50, Lennart Borgman wrote: > Oh, my misunderstanding. I thought the only interesting radixes where 2**n. Duodecimal is quite an interesting system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duodecimal and 12 is not a power of 2. Juanma From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 10 01:08:41 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2010 05:08:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMa0O-0007fM-VU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMa0N-0007fG-At for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:39 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMa0J-0000fQ-Jm; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:35 -0400 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes References: From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: bank UMTS Osama doctrine ASO Ermes Israel gamma X-Ran: SKYt\9%q1)elmx)gx#1!qi'/w^0e_K]FF*@ED+jaPBm]g7"/h=tu1tu[nXw9 X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:35 -0400 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: Warren L Dodge , 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Emacs supports radix values beyond 16, so a-f is not enough. It's > actually a-z. Is the doc-string of read-quoted-char-radix (which is what the manual section in question is talking about) wrong then? It says: Legitimate radix values are 8, 10 and 16 These are also the only choices allowed when customizing read-quoted-char-radix. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 10 04:16:11 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2010 08:16:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMcvq-0000Sq-Lr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:16:11 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMcvo-0000Sl-5N for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:16:09 -0400 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3071C15556; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:16:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hase.home (ppp-88-217-113-22.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.113.22]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDB41C00290; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:16:04 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes References: X-Yow: MERYL STREEP is my obstetrician! Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:16:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:35 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Warren L Dodge , 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > Is the doc-string of read-quoted-char-radix (which is what the manual > section in question is talking about) wrong then? It says: > > Legitimate radix values are 8, 10 and 16 > > These are also the only choices allowed when customizing > read-quoted-char-radix. read-quoted-char-radix != lisp reader. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 10 04:30:24 2010 Received: (at 6374) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2010 08:30:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMd9c-0000Yc-3c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:30:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMd9a-0000YX-KS for 6374@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:30:23 -0400 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMd9X-000721-GO; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:30:19 -0400 From: Eli Zaretskii To: Glenn Morris In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:35 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes References: Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:30:19 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374 Cc: warrend@Tektronix.com, 6374@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > Cc: Warren L Dodge , 6374@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 01:08:35 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Emacs supports radix values beyond 16, so a-f is not enough. It's > > actually a-z. > > Is the doc-string of read-quoted-char-radix (which is what the manual > section in question is talking about) wrong then? No, it's not wrong. > Legitimate radix values are 8, 10 and 16 > > These are also the only choices allowed when customizing > read-quoted-char-radix. I don't think we should rewrite the manual for a simple extension of the current capabilities, when it is done. The Lisp reader already supports any radix up to 36. So the intentionally vague language in the manual seems fine to me. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 10 23:34:38 2010 Received: (at 6374-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jun 2010 03:34:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMv0w-0001nC-4q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:34:38 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMv0u-0001n3-0b for 6374-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:34:36 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OMv0q-0007q9-Ja; Thu, 10 Jun 2010 23:34:32 -0400 To: 6374-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#6374: 23.2; manual language fixes References: From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Abu Ghraib ASDIC Al-Qaeda Hugo Chavez bank morse Blowpipe X-Ran: Ln>qPzt}nu)8~L,lg0h%w:/C$m User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 6374-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) Corrected these issues, thanks. 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