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26.3; Doc string of `find-file-run-dired'

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To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#63557: closed (26.3; Doc string of `find-file-run-dired')
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 15:47:02 +0000

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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 26.3; Doc string of `find-file-run-dired'
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 19:43:17 +0000

Instead of just saying that non-nil allows `find-file' to visit
directories, say also (as does (emacs) `Visiting') that otherwise (i.e.,
nil) raises an error when the arg is a directory name.

In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2019-08-29
Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
Configured using:
 `configure --without-dbus --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32
 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=-O2 -static -g3''

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 63557-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: bug#63557: 26.3; Doc string of
 `find-file-run-dired'
Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 18:46:30 +0300

> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> CC: "63557 <at> debbugs.gnu.org" <63557 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 15:35:03 +0000
> 
> > > Instead of just saying that non-nil allows `find-file' to visit
> > > directories, say also (as does (emacs) `Visiting') that otherwise (i.e.,
> > > nil) raises an error when the arg is a directory name.
> >
> > How would you interpret "allows" in any other sense?  What could "does
> > not allow" mean when the value is nil?
> > IOW, I don't see why would we need to spoon-feed the user in this
> > case.  The meaning of nil is crystal clear to me.
> 
> That you can't visit a directory is one thing.

The doc string says "allows", not "can".

> That trying to do that raises an error is a
> different thing.  Another possible behavior
> that doesn't visit a directory is to do nothing.
> A third is to show a message, without raising
> an error.
> 
> Not being able to do something is not the same
> as having an error raised if you try to do it.

You are splitting hair for no good reason.

Closing.

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