GNU bug report logs - #62767
29.0.90; [PATCH] *lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el: set variables after info package

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
Cc: 62767 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, sunlin7 <at> yahoo.com
Subject: bug#62767: 29.0.90; [PATCH] *lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el: set variables after info package
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 13:58:05 +0300

> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
> Cc: sunlin7 <at> yahoo.com,  62767 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2023 10:43:21 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Philip Kaludercic <philipk <at> posteo.net>
> >> Cc: 62767 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  eliz <at> gnu.org
> >> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 20:07:54 +0000
> >> 
> >> lin Sun <sunlin7 <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > The package.el will always require the entire `info.el` on its package
> >> > activating function.
> >> > Using the `with-eval-after-load` to arrange the work can avoid the
> >> > unnecessary loading the `info` package.
> >> 
> >> Note that this is not the only place where info is required.  If this is
> >> an acceptable solution (which I am not sure since `with-eval-after-load'
> >> is something I usually encounter in user configurations), then we should
> >> think about consistently addressing the issue:
> >
> > What exactly are the problems with requiring info.el?  We require
> > packages that define some function in gazillion other places, so what
> > makes this one case special?
> 
> Some people optimise the startup time of Emacs and want to avoid loading
> files that are not necessary for Emacs to start-up.

And this is the only place in Emacs where we have (require 'FOO) and
FOO is not necessary for Emacs to start up?  I'd be surprised.

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