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29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents set-mark-command from activating region in minibuffer

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From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents set-mark-command from
 activating region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 16:24:55 +0530

To reproduce the issue, one must activate an input method that
eventually calls `quail-minibuffer-message' to insert the guidance
string and the "title" of the input method at the end of the minibuffer.

- To observe the problem, first define a dummy Quail input method

    (quail-define-package "none" "asdf" "none")

- Then activate recursive minibuffers

    M-: (setq enable-recursive-minibuffers t) RET

- Now open a minibuffer (C-x C-f is a good one) then activate the "none"
  input method.

- Now type M-x set-mark-command RET and note how the region is not
  active.

This problem goes away if you redefine `quail-minibuffer-message' to
simply echo the string by saying

    (defalias 'quail-minibuffer-message #'message)

Furthermore, the comment above `quail-minibuffer-message' says

    ;; Quail specific version of minibuffer-message.  It displays STRING
    ;; with timeout 1000000 seconds instead of two seconds.

but even with that redefinition, the guidance string is printed just
fine (minus the extra square brackets that message adds).

AFAICT, the guidance string contains text properties but the title of
the input method doesn't.

In GNU Emacs 29.0.60 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw
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Message #8 received at 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62709: 29.0.60;
 quail-minibuffer-message prevents set-mark-command from activating
 region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 14:14:33 +0300

> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 16:24:55 +0530
> 
> - To observe the problem, first define a dummy Quail input method
> 
>     (quail-define-package "none" "asdf" "none")
> 
> - Then activate recursive minibuffers
> 
>     M-: (setq enable-recursive-minibuffers t) RET
> 
> - Now open a minibuffer (C-x C-f is a good one) then activate the "none"
>   input method.
> 
> - Now type M-x set-mark-command RET and note how the region is not
>   active.
> 
> This problem goes away if you redefine `quail-minibuffer-message' to
> simply echo the string by saying
> 
>     (defalias 'quail-minibuffer-message #'message)
> 
> Furthermore, the comment above `quail-minibuffer-message' says
> 
>     ;; Quail specific version of minibuffer-message.  It displays STRING
>     ;; with timeout 1000000 seconds instead of two seconds.
> 
> but even with that redefinition, the guidance string is printed just
> fine (minus the extra square brackets that message adds).

I'd prefer to solve the problem that prevents the region from becoming
active, without changing how Quail shows its messages.  Can you try
finding such a solution, or at least explaining why
quail-minibuffer-message prevents the region from becoming active in
this case?

Thanks.

Message #11 received at 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62709: 29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents
 set-mark-command from activating region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 17:21:26 +0530

[வெள்ளி ஏப்ரல் 07, 2023] Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> - To observe the problem, first define a dummy Quail input method
>> 
>>     (quail-define-package "none" "asdf" "none")
>> 
>> - Then activate recursive minibuffers
>> 
>>     M-: (setq enable-recursive-minibuffers t) RET
>> 
>> - Now open a minibuffer (C-x C-f is a good one) then activate the "none"
>>   input method.
>> 
>> - Now type M-x set-mark-command RET and note how the region is not
>>   active.
>> 
>> This problem goes away if you redefine `quail-minibuffer-message' to
>> simply echo the string by saying
>> 
>>     (defalias 'quail-minibuffer-message #'message)
>> 
>> Furthermore, the comment above `quail-minibuffer-message' says
>> 
>>     ;; Quail specific version of minibuffer-message.  It displays STRING
>>     ;; with timeout 1000000 seconds instead of two seconds.
>> 
>> but even with that redefinition, the guidance string is printed just
>> fine (minus the extra square brackets that message adds).
>
> I'd prefer to solve the problem that prevents the region from becoming
> active, without changing how Quail shows its messages.  Can you try
> finding such a solution, 

One solution would be to use an overlay to show the guidance string,
like what `minibuffer-depth-mode' does.

> or at least explaining why quail-minibuffer-message prevents the
> region from becoming active in this case?

Unfortunately, that is well beyond my abilities.  If I simply comment
out the part where Quail `insert's the guidance string, I see no issue
but if I leave it and check the return value of `use-region-p' and value
of `mark-active' before and after the `insert' call, I see nil before
and after the insert call...

I investigated insert and delete-region because they deactivate an
active region in a "normal buffer" when called.

> Thanks.

Message #14 received at 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62709: 29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents
 set-mark-command from activating region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 20:09:13 +0530

[வெள்ளி ஏப்ரல் 07, 2023] Visuwesh wrote:

>> I'd prefer to solve the problem that prevents the region from becoming
>> active, without changing how Quail shows its messages.  Can you try
>> finding such a solution, 
>
> One solution would be to use an overlay to show the guidance string,
> like what `minibuffer-depth-mode' does.

I came close to solving the issue with an overlay but I hit a roadblock
with the cursor property.
I currently create an overlay at minibuffer's point-max but the cursor
is shown _after_ the overlay string.  I tried to use the cursor text
property to move the cursor before the string but it does not do it if
the string contains a newline character _anywhere_, which is
contradictory to what the manual says

     One subtlety of this property is that it doesn’t work to put this
     property on a newline character that is part of a display or
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     overlay string.  That’s because the newline doesn’t have a graphic
     representation on the screen for Emacs to find when it looks for a
     character on display with that ‘cursor’ property.

but I do _not_ put the property on a newline character, I put it in on a
space character.

To spell things out, the overlay's after-string is something like
"  [none]
Guidance string here"

I put the cursor=t text-property on the first space character, but the
cursor is not displayed there.  If I remove the newline so the
after-string becomes

"  [none] Guidance string here"

then the cursor is just before the space character i.e., |  [none]...
where | is the cursor.

I'm attaching my work so far as a diff

diff --git a/lisp/international/quail.el b/lisp/international/quail.el
index 2ffe339233..20eba9c1d4 100644
--- a/lisp/international/quail.el
+++ b/lisp/international/quail.el
@@ -85,6 +85,9 @@ quail-overlay
 (defvar-local quail-conv-overlay nil
   "Overlay which covers the text to be converted in Quail mode.")
 
+(defvar-local quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay nil
+  "Overlay used to display the guidance string when in minibuffer.")
+
 (defvar-local quail-current-key nil
   "Current key for translation in Quail mode.")
 
@@ -571,18 +574,22 @@ quail-activate
     (setq deactivate-current-input-method-function #'quail-deactivate)
     (setq describe-current-input-method-function #'quail-help)
     (quail-delete-overlays)
-    (setq quail-guidance-str "")
-    (quail-show-guidance)
     ;; If we are in minibuffer, turn off the current input method
     ;; before exiting.
     (when (eq (selected-window) (minibuffer-window))
+      (quail-minibuf-setup-guidance-overlay)
       (add-hook 'minibuffer-exit-hook #'quail-exit-from-minibuffer)
       (add-hook 'post-command-hook #'quail-show-guidance nil t))
+    (setq quail-guidance-str "")
+    (quail-show-guidance)
     (run-hooks 'quail-activate-hook)
     (setq-local input-method-function #'quail-input-method)))
 
 (defun quail-exit-from-minibuffer ()
   (deactivate-input-method)
+  (when (and (overlayp quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay)
+             (overlay-start quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay))
+    (delete-overlay quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay))
   (if (<= (minibuffer-depth) 1)
       (remove-hook 'minibuffer-exit-hook 'quail-exit-from-minibuffer)))
 
@@ -1993,17 +2000,33 @@ quail-require-guidance-buf
 ;; with timeout 1000000 seconds instead of two seconds.
 
 (defun quail-minibuffer-message (string)
-  (message nil)
-  (let ((point-max (point-max))
-	(inhibit-quit t))
-    (save-excursion
-      (goto-char point-max)
-      (insert string))
-    (sit-for 1000000)
-    (delete-region point-max (point-max))
-    (when quit-flag
-      (setq quit-flag nil)
-      (quail-add-unread-command-events 7 t))))
+  (put-text-property 0 1 'cursor t string)
+  (overlay-put quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay
+               'after-string string))
+
+;; (defun quail-minibuffer-message (string)
+;;   (message nil)
+;;   (let ((point-max (point-max))
+;; 	(inhibit-quit t))
+;;     (save-excursion
+;;       (goto-char point-max)
+;;       (insert string))
+;;     (sit-for 1000000)
+;;     (delete-region point-max (point-max))
+;;     (when quit-flag
+;;       (setq quit-flag nil)
+;;       (quail-add-unread-command-events 7 t))))
+
+(defun quail-minibuf-move-guidance-overlay (ov afterp &rest _)
+  (when afterp
+    (move-overlay ov (point-max) (point-max))))
+
+(defun quail-minibuf-setup-guidance-overlay ()
+  (setq quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay
+        (make-overlay (point-max) (point-max)))
+  (overlay-put quail-minibuf-guidance-overlay 'insert-behind-hooks
+               '(quail-minibuf-move-guidance-overlay)))
+
 
 (defun quail-show-guidance ()
   "Display a guidance for Quail input method in some window.

Message #17 received at 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62709: 29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents
 set-mark-command from activating region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 17:57:02 +0300

> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 20:09:13 +0530
> 
> [வெள்ளி ஏப்ரல் 07, 2023] Visuwesh wrote:
> 
> >> I'd prefer to solve the problem that prevents the region from becoming
> >> active, without changing how Quail shows its messages.  Can you try
> >> finding such a solution, 
> >
> > One solution would be to use an overlay to show the guidance string,
> > like what `minibuffer-depth-mode' does.
> 
> I came close to solving the issue with an overlay but I hit a roadblock
> with the cursor property.

Thanks, but I think this is an unnecessary complication.

Does the patch below fix the problems you saw, without introducing any
regressions?

diff --git a/lisp/international/quail.el b/lisp/international/quail.el
index 2ffe339..317ea84 100644
--- a/lisp/international/quail.el
+++ b/lisp/international/quail.el
@@ -1995,7 +1995,8 @@ quail-require-guidance-buf
 (defun quail-minibuffer-message (string)
   (message nil)
   (let ((point-max (point-max))
-	(inhibit-quit t))
+	(inhibit-quit t)
+        (deactivate-mark nil))
     (save-excursion
       (goto-char point-max)
       (insert string))

Message #20 received at 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62709: 29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents
 set-mark-command from activating region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 20:39:25 +0530

[வெள்ளி ஏப்ரல் 07, 2023] Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
>> Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 20:09:13 +0530
>> 
>> [வெள்ளி ஏப்ரல் 07, 2023] Visuwesh wrote:
>> 
>> >> I'd prefer to solve the problem that prevents the region from becoming
>> >> active, without changing how Quail shows its messages.  Can you try
>> >> finding such a solution, 
>> >
>> > One solution would be to use an overlay to show the guidance string,
>> > like what `minibuffer-depth-mode' does.
>> 
>> I came close to solving the issue with an overlay but I hit a roadblock
>> with the cursor property.
>
> Thanks, but I think this is an unnecessary complication.
>
> Does the patch below fix the problems you saw, without introducing any
> regressions?

Yes, it fixes the issue.  Thanks for the quick fix!

> diff --git a/lisp/international/quail.el b/lisp/international/quail.el
> index 2ffe339..317ea84 100644
> --- a/lisp/international/quail.el
> +++ b/lisp/international/quail.el
> @@ -1995,7 +1995,8 @@ quail-require-guidance-buf
>  (defun quail-minibuffer-message (string)
>    (message nil)
>    (let ((point-max (point-max))
> -	(inhibit-quit t))
> +	(inhibit-quit t)
> +        (deactivate-mark nil))
>      (save-excursion
>        (goto-char point-max)
>        (insert string))

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 62709-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#62709: 29.0.60; quail-minibuffer-message prevents
 set-mark-command from activating region in minibuffer
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 18:33:28 +0300

> From: Visuwesh <visuweshm <at> gmail.com>
> Cc: 62709 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 20:39:25 +0530
> 
> [வெள்ளி ஏப்ரல் 07, 2023] Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> > Does the patch below fix the problems you saw, without introducing any
> > regressions?
> 
> Yes, it fixes the issue.  Thanks for the quick fix!

Thanks, installed on the emacs-29 branch, and closing the bug.

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