GNU bug report logs - #62333
30.0.50; Issue with tree-sitter syntax tree during certain changes

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Wilhelm Kirschbaum <wkirschbaum <at> gmail.com>

Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:15:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 30.0.50

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
Cc: wkirschbaum <at> gmail.com, gregory <at> heytings.org, casouri <at> gmail.com, 62333 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62333: 30.0.50; Issue with tree-sitter syntax tree during certain changes
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:32:59 +0300
> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 02:06:17 +0300
> Cc: wkirschbaum <at> gmail.com, casouri <at> gmail.com, 62333 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov <at> yandex.ru>
> 
> On 27/03/2023 16:39, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:24:42 +0000
> >> From: Gregory Heytings<gregory <at> heytings.org>
> >> cc: Eli Zaretskii<eliz <at> gnu.org>,wkirschbaum <at> gmail.com,casouri <at> gmail.com,
> >>      62333 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >>
> >>>> Which is a fragile, semi-broken means, as we all know.
> >>> What is a broken mess, is user-level narrowing. And how the downstream
> >>> code can never guess the purpose the narrowing was applied for.
> >> Note that this is what labeled narrowings attempts to solve.
> > Labeled narrowing cannot solve this because it does nothing to
> > alleviate the problems with user-defined narrowing.  So if the user
> > narrows the buffer, we cannot do anything to safely widen in the
> > general case, and labeled narrowing cannot help us.
> 
> Is that because we don't think the user level narrowing is done purely 
> for visual effect?

Indeed, it isn't always for visual effect.

> judging by regular user requests for make this or that command 
> ignore user-level narrowing, it seems like "purely visual" should be the 
> default interpretation.

I think you base your judgment on feedback from users who are not used
to take advantage of narrowing in editing.  I think most young people
aren't, since this feature is more-or-less unique to Emacs.




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