GNU bug report logs - #61942
28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer

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Reported by: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>

Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 18:14:02 UTC

Severity: normal

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Found in version 28.2

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From: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2023 11:13:27 -0700
From *vc-outgoing*, I used '=' to see a diff.

The diff in question is pretty large.

Emacs showed this in the echo area:

Finding changes in ....

This was not interruptible -- I tried C-g, C-], and 'kill -USR1'

I don't know exactly what this is doing, but whatever it is should be
interruptible.

Tom




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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>
To: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>, 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 04:15:00 +0300
Hi!

Late reply here.

On 03/03/2023 20:13, Tom Tromey wrote:
> From*vc-outgoing*, I used '=' to see a diff.
> 
> The diff in question is pretty large.
> 
> Emacs showed this in the echo area:
> 
> Finding changes in ....
> 
> This was not interruptible -- I tried C-g, C-], and 'kill -USR1'
> 
> I don't know exactly what this is doing, but whatever it is should be
> interruptible.

I've been doing some performance debugging for vc-diff, and the same 
thing has happened once when c-ts-mode was associated with *.c files.

That time I also turned off the cache for diff's revision syntax 
highlighting and repeated a 'vc-diff' for one revision several times.

Profiling this scenario gets me to

        7940  85%             - diff--get-revision-properties
        7940  85%              - let*
        5637  61%               - if
        5637  61%                - condition-case
        5637  61%                 - vc-find-revision-no-save
        5622  60%                  - decode-coding-inserted-region
           3   0%                   - set-auto-coding
           3   0%                    - find-auto-coding
           3   0%                     + set-auto-mode-1
          12   0%                  + set-auto-mode
           3   0%                  + vc-call-backend

and if we're talking about tree-sitter based modes, it might be due to 
memory usage (or not).

Anyway, if you're seeing this regularly

  (setq diff-font-lock-syntax 'hunk-only)

should help as a workaround.




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From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>, Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 19:29:33 +0800
Hello Dmitry, Tom,

Do we have a reproducer for this?  Otherwise, I'd like to suggest
closing the report for now.

-- 
Sean Whitton




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From: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>, Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>,
 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:22:46 -0600
> Do we have a reproducer for this?  Otherwise, I'd like to suggest
> closing the report for now.

I encounter this quite a bit -- several times a week.

All it really seems to take is paging through a diff with some very
large hunks.

I tried finding a reproducer on one of my current branches but couldn't.

Anyway, closing this is premature since there is still a bug here.

Tom




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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>, Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 02:24:34 +0200
On 11/03/2025 13:29, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello Dmitry, Tom,
> 
> Do we have a reproducer for this?  Otherwise, I'd like to suggest
> closing the report for now.

The reproducer for the scenario I have in mind is opening a diff, for 
the first time in a session, that references one of the larger .c files.

For example, from the current Emacs master, launch 'C-x v L' (root log), 
and from there move to

  * ab5bfcebddf..: Po Lu 2025-03-10 Fix bug#76805

and press 'd'. The first time I do it, in a session, takes about 600ms.

Quitting or killing the diff buffer and repeating the action makes it 
instant because the file buffer stays in diff--cached-revision-buffers, 
for some time.




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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>
To: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>, Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 02:34:15 +0200
On 13/03/2025 22:22, Tom Tromey wrote:
> All it really seems to take is paging through a diff with some very
> large hunks.

If the repro requires really large hunks, it might be due to the 
"refine" feature, which can be relatively costly.

When you see the problem again, maybe try (setq diff-refine nil).




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From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>, Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:48:58 +0800
Hello,

On Fri 14 Mar 2025 at 02:24am +02, Dmitry Gutov wrote:

> On 11/03/2025 13:29, Sean Whitton wrote:
>> Hello Dmitry, Tom,
>> Do we have a reproducer for this?  Otherwise, I'd like to suggest
>> closing the report for now.
>
> The reproducer for the scenario I have in mind is opening a diff, for the
> first time in a session, that references one of the larger .c files.
>
> For example, from the current Emacs master, launch 'C-x v L' (root log), and
> from there move to
>
>   * ab5bfcebddf..: Po Lu 2025-03-10 Fix bug#76805
>
> and press 'd'. The first time I do it, in a session, takes about 600ms.
>
> Quitting or killing the diff buffer and repeating the action makes it instant
> because the file buffer stays in diff--cached-revision-buffers, for some time.

Thank you both for your replies.

Dmitry, regarding your reproducer, on my laptop (bought late 2020)
I can't discern a difference before or after the caching.

Tom, it would be great if you could try Dmitry's suggestion and see if
it makes a difference.

-- 
Sean Whitton




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Message #28 received at 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
Cc: dmitry <at> gutov.dev, tom <at> tromey.com, 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 09:05:55 +0200
> Cc: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>, Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>,
>  61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:22:46 -0600
> 
> > Do we have a reproducer for this?  Otherwise, I'd like to suggest
> > closing the report for now.
> 
> I encounter this quite a bit -- several times a week.
> 
> All it really seems to take is paging through a diff with some very
> large hunks.
> 
> I tried finding a reproducer on one of my current branches but couldn't.
> 
> Anyway, closing this is premature since there is still a bug here.

There's no reason to keep a bug open if no one is working on it and we
don't have way of reproducing it to enable such work.

So please try to show a recipe for reproducing the problem, even if
the recipe is not 100% reliable.  Doing so will go a long way towards
ensuring we do identify and solve the bug.

Thanks.




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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: dmitry <at> gutov.dev, tom <at> tromey.com, 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 10:26:31 +0200
> Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:48:58 +0800
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri 14 Mar 2025 at 02:24am +02, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
> 
> > On 11/03/2025 13:29, Sean Whitton wrote:
> >> Hello Dmitry, Tom,
> >> Do we have a reproducer for this?  Otherwise, I'd like to suggest
> >> closing the report for now.
> >
> > The reproducer for the scenario I have in mind is opening a diff, for the
> > first time in a session, that references one of the larger .c files.
> >
> > For example, from the current Emacs master, launch 'C-x v L' (root log), and
> > from there move to
> >
> >   * ab5bfcebddf..: Po Lu 2025-03-10 Fix bug#76805
> >
> > and press 'd'. The first time I do it, in a session, takes about 600ms.
> >
> > Quitting or killing the diff buffer and repeating the action makes it instant
> > because the file buffer stays in diff--cached-revision-buffers, for some time.
> 
> Thank you both for your replies.
> 
> Dmitry, regarding your reproducer, on my laptop (bought late 2020)
> I can't discern a difference before or after the caching.
> 
> Tom, it would be great if you could try Dmitry's suggestion and see if
> it makes a difference.

As an observer from the peanut gallery, may I point out that 600 ms is
a very far cry from "uninterruptible hang"?  So personally, I'm not
sure that what Dmitry reported is the same problem as the one due to
which Tom submitted this bug report.




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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>, Tom Tromey <tom <at> tromey.com>
Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:30:45 +0200
On 14/03/2025 05:48, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Dmitry, regarding your reproducer, on my laptop (bought late 2020)
> I can't discern a difference before or after the caching.

Interesting. My laptop is from 2018/2019, but it's a pretty beefy i9, 
with SSD, lots of RAM, and stuff. And the effect seems stable here.




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From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry <at> gutov.dev>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: 61942 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, tom <at> tromey.com
Subject: Re: bug#61942: 28.2; uninterruptible hang in vc-diff buffer
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 03:32:02 +0200
On 14/03/2025 10:26, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> As an observer from the peanut gallery, may I point out that 600 ms is
> a very far cry from "uninterruptible hang"?  So personally, I'm not
> sure that what Dmitry reported is the same problem as the one due to
> which Tom submitted this bug report.

Quite true - but "uninterruptible" could come from code running in 
font-lock (harder to interrupt anyway), and if Tom's diffs include more 
large files than in my example, the delay could be proportionally longer.




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