GNU bug report logs - #61925
30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer <at> gmx.de>

Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 23:12:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: notabug

Found in version 30.0.50

Done: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Message #10 received at control <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 61925 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#61925: 30.0.50;
 normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers
 (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2023 12:19:31 +0200
tags 61925 notabug
thanks

> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100
> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer <at> gmx.de>
> 
> The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
> buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
> buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
> 
> The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
> See output from various Emacs versions further below.
> 
> If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
> to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.

This was an intentional change, yes.

And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:

 -- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
     This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
     variable bindings for the current buffer.  It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
     (see below).  As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
     ‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
     the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).

And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:


 -- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
     Major modes should run their mode hook using this function.  It is
     similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
     ‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
     the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::)  ^^^^
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The user manual indeed didn't mention this caveat; I've now mentioned
that aspect there (and also in the doc strings of the relevant
functions).

(The change in Emacs 26 that caused this as a side effect was to fix
bug#15577 and bug#23407.)

> I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
> interactively.

I think such a warning could be an annoyance.




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